Very sad occurence ( Archived) (53)

Jun 15, 2016 2:39 PM CST Very sad occurence
A 2 YO boy was playing in the Seven Seas Lagoon at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa when he was attacked by a 7 foot Alligator and dragged into the water.


They are searching for the boy but I hate to say it but that kid is a goner.
First thing this morning I began monitoring Disney Corporation stock (DIS) price fully expecting it to crash today but instead it's been in the green all day and it's currently up 24 cents as I type this. I was actually thinking of taking a short position in the stock but decided to wait for some confirmation and boy am I glad I waited. The boy and his family came from Nebraska.
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Jun 15, 2016 3:22 PM CST Very sad occurence
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
Another hideous tragedy involving animals in enclosed spaces....sad flower

Where was the safety for this wee boy? doh Surely better safety regulations are in order.
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Jun 15, 2016 3:33 PM CST Very sad occurence
The parents must have felt like they were thrown back to the age of dinosaurs. I can't even imagine what they felt watching the gator swimming off with their child. I couldn't believe anybody would allow their toddler to be wading in a lagoon in Florida in the evening. I guess being from the Midwest they were unaware that any open body of water in FL is likely to be home to Alligators. They hunt at night.
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Jun 15, 2016 3:40 PM CST Very sad occurence
BerrySmoothie
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ooby_dooby: The parents must have felt like they were thrown back to the age of dinosaurs. I can't even imagine what they felt watching the gator swimming off with their child. I couldn't believe anybody would allow their toddler to be wading in a lagoon in Florida in the evening. I guess being from the Midwest they were unaware that any open body of water in FL is likely to be home to Alligators. They hunt at night.



Oh, ok....I didn't read your link Ooby.

I got the impression it was actually in a zoo environment of sorts.

Hideous, just thinking about it....blues
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Jun 15, 2016 3:47 PM CST Very sad occurence
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
That is very unfortunate.
I assume gators are not part of the lagoon, how that gator got in that lagoon?




sad flower
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Jun 15, 2016 3:55 PM CST Very sad occurence
stringman
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Jun 15, 2016 6:51 PM CST Very sad occurence
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,493 Posts
lifeisadream: That is very unfortunate.
I assume gators are not part of the lagoon, how that gator got in that lagoon?
You may or not be aware that in Florida, especially, alligators seek out water of any sort. They are frequently found in swimming pools, koi ponds, even very small shallow puddles of water, ponds, etc...There are even professional teams that work in the industry of ridding homeowners of unwanted pest alligators. I can easily see how alligators colonize a lagoon, even one within a park. They are more clever and persistent than one may think.
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Jun 15, 2016 7:01 PM CST Very sad occurence
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,229 Posts
ooby_dooby: The parents must have felt like they were thrown back to the age of dinosaurs. I can't even imagine what they felt watching the gator swimming off with their child. I couldn't believe anybody would allow their toddler to be wading in a lagoon in Florida in the evening. I guess being from the Midwest they were unaware that any open body of water in FL is likely to be home to Alligators. They hunt at night.



The child wasn't wading in the lagoon. He was walking at the edge of the water. And, it wasn't a lagoon. It is a man made lake that had 5 alligators. All alligators have now been euthanized to make sure they got the one that took the child.

The child's body has been found and completely intact.

Once again an animal dies because of irresponsible parents.

These animals do not belong in zoos (Harambe), pools (Orca whales), alligators (in small lakes).

sad flower

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Jun 15, 2016 7:15 PM CST Very sad occurence
CapNemo
CapNemoCapNemoLongview, Texas USA6 Threads 599 Posts
secretagent09: A manmade lake is not a "natural" habitat. A natural habitat is the swamps in Louisiana or the Everglades in Florida.

Captain, if you go to the article I posted you'll see that they killed 5 alligators.

I agree it was wrong to kill the alligators. It was probably to give some sort or revenge to the parents, the same as when they killed Harambe a beautiful gorilla.
I understand that it is not a Natural part of the habitat, however the gators keep going into it because it's a body of water that they like. I've got a Brother over in Orlando that does some work at that establishment who told me about the killing of the gators. He wasn't sure of the numbers, but thought it was near 10, so I can't argue your number of 5 since at the time he wasn't sure. Hate that the gators were killed. handshake
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Jun 15, 2016 7:18 PM CST Very sad occurence
galrads
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secretagent09: The child wasn't wading in the lagoon. He was walking at the edge of the water. And, it wasn't a lagoon. It is a man made lake that had 5 alligators. All alligators have now been euthanized to make sure they got the one that took the child.

The child's body has been found and completely intact.

Once again an animal dies because of irresponsible parents.

These animals do not belong in zoos (Harambe), pools (Orca whales), alligators (in small lakes).




I also agree that animals don't belong in any of these places. sad flower
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Jun 15, 2016 7:22 PM CST Very sad occurence
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
secretagent09: A manmade lake is not a "natural" habitat. A natural habitat is the swamps in Louisiana or the Everglades in Florida.

Captain, if you go to the article I posted you'll see that they killed 5 alligators.

I agree it was wrong to kill the alligators. It was probably to give some sort or revenge to the parents, the same as when they killed Harambe a beautiful gorilla.


Hi Secret,

Whilst I certainly do not condone the seemingly unnecessary act of culling 5 alligators, my sympathies lie with the parents.

The resort failed to erect signage surrounding the lake warning of alligators.

There seemed to be "no swimming" signs, but as I understand it, the boy was simply wading in shallow water.

A senseless tragedy that could have been avoided had extra precautions been taken by the resort.
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Jun 15, 2016 7:41 PM CST Very sad occurence
A 2 year old child dies due an attack of a reptile, and we're grieving over the loss of several reptiles as a result?

I can't even imagine what those parents are going through right now. sad flower
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Jun 15, 2016 7:48 PM CST Very sad occurence
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,229 Posts
CapNemo: I understand that it is not a Natural part of the habitat, however the gators keep going into it because it's a body of water that they like. I've got a Brother over in Orlando that does some work at that establishment who told me about the killing of the gators. He wasn't sure of the numbers, but thought it was near 10, so I can't argue your number of 5 since at the time he wasn't sure. Hate that the gators were killed.



Hi Cap - I'm sure your brother knows what really happened. Whether it was 5, 10 or 1 that was euthanized it wouldn't have happened if there was a large sign saying BEWARE OF ALLIGATORS. Anyone in their right mind who saw that sign would go back to their hotel room. handshake
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Jun 15, 2016 7:59 PM CST Very sad occurence
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
Killed the gators because once they kill they see humans as easy prey. gators are deadliest at the waters edge. i remember when they were endangered, now it may be the reverse.
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Jun 15, 2016 8:21 PM CST Very sad occurence
BerrySmoothie
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YouMeUs: A 2 year old child dies due an attack of a reptile, and we're grieving over the loss of several reptiles as a result?

I can't even imagine what those parents are going through right now.


Nightmarish YouMeUs.

It will haunt them for the rest of their days.

Life ~ we cannot be sure of ANY warnings, of alligators in the lake, issued to the parents. To suggest they did know, is speculation only, until all the facts are known.
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Jun 15, 2016 8:31 PM CST Very sad occurence
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,229 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Nightmarish YouMeUs.

It will haunt them for the rest of their days.

Life ~ we cannot be sure of ANY warnings, of alligators in the lake, issued to the parents. To suggest they did know, is speculation only, until all the facts are known.



They didn't know about the alligators because there wasn't a sign stating that they are there. I have a vision of a wrongful death lawsuit in the near future. However, since the child was only two years old the value of the case won't be as much as if he was 18 because the judgment is based on his future earnings. I'm not being harsh. That's the way the law works. Disney should be sued right down to their core.
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Jun 15, 2016 8:36 PM CST Very sad occurence
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Nightmarish YouMeUs.

It will haunt them for the rest of their days.

Life ~ we cannot be sure of ANY warnings, of alligators in the lake, issued to the parents. To suggest they did know, is speculation only, until all the facts are known.

Recently I stayed in a hotel which had a lovely beach but there were Manta Rays and Jellyfish so the lady at the desk told me that they do not recommend swimming and I had to sign a form where it said I got informed of it and that was in a Sudamerican country.

I would expect Disney doing even more about the safety of their guests.
If there was any risks in that lake/lagoon I bet Disney had not one sign but several.


"..There are "No Swimming" signs at the lagoon, and no one but the child was in the water at the time of the attack,.."

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Jun 15, 2016 8:37 PM CST Very sad occurence
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
secretagent09: They didn't know about the alligators because there wasn't a sign stating that they are there. I have a vision of a wrongful death lawsuit in the near future. However, since the child was only two years old the value of the case won't be as much as if he was 18 because the judgment is based on his future earnings. I'm not being harsh. That's the way the law works. Disney should be sued right down to their core.


If the case goes to court, it will be long, drawn out and harrowing for the young boy's loved ones.

We can be safe to say, Disney won't be short of a dollar in defending themselves.
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Jun 15, 2016 8:44 PM CST Very sad occurence
lifeisadream
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lifeisadream: "..There are "No Swimming" signs at the lagoon, and no one but the child was in the water at the time of the attack,.."


"No swimming" migth be not enough for some people, perhaps the sign should say: "Be aware of Alligators".

sigh
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Jun 15, 2016 8:56 PM CST Very sad occurence
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
lifeisadream: "No swimming" migth be not enough for some people, perhaps the sign should say: "Be aware of Alligators".


Yep, sadly so Life.

I just can't fathom how parents would allow their toddler to wade at the water's edge, at night, knowing the full risks involved?

Too early to say. All will be revealed eventually, I dare say.
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