Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe. ( Archived) (35)

Jul 30, 2016 6:23 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
What Say You.

moping
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Jul 30, 2016 7:05 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
Bogart_1960
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Aragorn11: What Say You.


No Game of Thrones?

both reminds me Umberto Eco's "Ur Fascism"and the description of the fascist 'values", and how similar they are to Trump/ Brexit programs: "The ask us what is our program. Our program is simple. We want to govern Italy." ?Benito Mussolini, September 20, 1922

Mussolini did not have any philosophy: he had only rhetoric. Trump and "EXiters" have no plan or program.


I expect someone being angry about this…laugh as usual.

cheers
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Jul 30, 2016 7:07 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Aragorn Trump hasn't even been elected yet, people should at least wait and see if he gets into office first and give him a chance to mess up.

To my knowledge the USA has never had a decent and honest president.

Obviously they all lie just to get elected and have done their fair share of being a menace to the world.
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Jul 30, 2016 7:23 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
Ccincy: Aragorn Trump hasn't even been elected yet, people should at least wait and see if he gets into office first and give him a chance to mess up.

To my knowledge the USA has never had a decent and honest president.

Obviously they all lie just to get elected and have done their fair share of being a menace to the world.


Hi Cc,

Its the rhetoric I abhor. Obviously Trump has not been elected as President, but his language is disgusting, towards Muslims and Mexicans to name but a few, something the Brexit campaign cashed in on.

Both Brexit and Trump's campaign promote fear and hate, creating division and non existent enemies.
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Jul 30, 2016 7:26 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,223 Posts
crayons: you're quoting directly from the lame stream
home grown george soros funded media matters template or you're just regurgitating what you are watching on the CNN/Univision propaganda channels.



I don't have CNN/Univision on my tv. I am perfectly capable of having an opinion myself.

Furthermore, I have seen Trump in action mouthing off to people to shut up.

Just today he is criticizing Mr. Kahn's wife ... a Muslim mother of a U.S. Marine who was killed ... for standing beside her husband during the DNC convention while her husband was telling Trump that he has never sacrificed anything. He also asked Trump if he has ever read the Constitution and that he (Mr. Zahn) will loan him his copy.

What kind of man criticizes a mother who is still in mourning for her son.

What kind of man condemns Senator McCain for being a prisoner of war and then says "I like people who haven't been a prisoner of war".

What kind of man puts his hands on his daughter's hips after just having them on her shoulders.

Trump is the bottom of the barrel.
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Jul 30, 2016 7:33 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
Bogart_1960: No Game of Thrones?

both reminds me Umberto Eco's "Ur Fascism"and the description of the fascist 'values", and how similar they are to Trump/ Brexit programs: "The ask us what is our program. Our program is simple. We want to govern Italy." ?Benito Mussolini, September 20, 1922

Mussolini did not have any philosophy: he had only rhetoric. Trump and "EXiters" have no plan or program. I expect someone being angry about this… as usual.


laugh

Is it wrong that I have a crush on Cersei ? I always go for the bad women wink

We, the electorate, deserve better from our politicians than lies, and there has to be a better way than we currently have. To actually hold our politicians accountable for their blatant lies that assume that we are too ignorant to know any better.

People like to have someone, externally to blame for their lot in life, instead of looking inward.

You'll be alright in this tread, no matter the anger laugh

wine
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Jul 30, 2016 7:43 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
Brexit.

Since Brexit there has been a huge increase in hate crimes towards immigrants. Not just muslims, but any immigrants into the UK.

Less than 1/2 the immigrants into the UK are from Europe, the rest are from the old British Empire.

The UK has 4.5 million emigrants to the EU, more than any other country within the EU.

Facts.
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Jul 30, 2016 7:49 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
crayons: you're quoting directly from the lame stream
home grown george soros funded media matters template or you're just regurgitating what you are watching on the CNN/Univision propaganda channels.


I suppose its easy for some to categorise people when they don't agree with them. It assumes a lack of intelligence that suits someone who is entrenched in their opinion.
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Jul 30, 2016 7:50 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
secretagent09: I don't have CNN/Univision on my tv. I am perfectly capable of having an opinion myself.

Furthermore, I have seen Trump in action mouthing off to people to shut up.

Just today he is criticizing Mr. Kahn's wife ... a Muslim mother of a U.S. Marine who was killed ... for standing beside her husband during the DNC convention while her husband was telling Trump that he has never sacrificed anything. He also asked Trump if he has ever read the Constitution and that he (Mr. Zahn) will loan him his copy.

What kind of man criticizes a mother who is still in mourning for her son.

What kind of man condemns Senator McCain for being a prisoner of war and then says "I like people who haven't been a prisoner of war".

What kind of man puts his hands on his daughter's hips after just having them on her shoulders.

Trump is the bottom of the barrel.
you are alienating
many of us. john mcshame is a brainwashed anti american loser who should be a demolitionist., and i've put my hands on my granddaughters hips when she sits on my lap, so whats yer point hillary?
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Jul 30, 2016 7:58 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
by the way isn't that kahn fellow the mayor
of London who wants to create his own islamo
country in the middle of England? this kind
of stuff is what starts wars.
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Jul 30, 2016 7:59 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,223 Posts
crayons: you are alienating
many of us. john mcshame is a brainwashed anti american loser who should be a demolitionist., and i've put my hands on my granddaughters hips when she sits on my lap, so whats yer point hillary?





Your granddaughter is probably a very young child.

Trump's daughter is 34 years old. Do you get my point?

I am not alienating you. I am giving an opinion in a debate.

You do not have to respect John McCain, a man who was tortured for many years in the Vietnam war. I'm surprised that you don't being that he is a Republican.

Mr. Crayons, you have a right to your opinion and so do I.

I hope you enjoy your evening handshake
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Jul 30, 2016 8:01 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
crayons: by the way isn't that kahn fellow the mayor
of London who wants to create his own islamo
country in the middle of England? this kind
of stuff is what starts wars.


rolling on the floor laughing

Have you a reference to back up this outrageous claim. Thanks.
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Jul 30, 2016 8:01 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,223 Posts
crayons: by the way isn't that kahn fellow the mayor
of London who wants to create his own islamo
country in the middle of England? this kind
of stuff is what starts wars.



This is Mr. Kahn.


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Jul 30, 2016 8:05 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
i have never liked john mcshame
due to his interference in senate
races in TEXAS, and his constant
backing and financing of john cornyn
who is just another mcshame puppet.

mcshame is a neocon warmonger puppet who finances terrorists.
this is all very well known.
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Jul 30, 2016 8:09 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
secretagent09: This is Mr. Kahn.https://www.yahoo.com/news/convention-over-clinton-faces-hacking-trump-criticism-070837144--election.html
yeah OK...that guy is just a useful
idiot who the demolitionists will throw away like yesterdays trash.
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Jul 30, 2016 8:15 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
Aragorn11: Have you a reference to back up this outrageous claim. Thanks.


this is from yer own neck of the woods and you dont know this stuff?...

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Jul 30, 2016 8:18 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,223 Posts



It appears that it's not the same person.

The Kahn I am speaking of is Khizr Kahn.
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Jul 30, 2016 8:21 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,223 Posts
secretagent09: It appears that it's not the same person.

The Kahn I am speaking of is Khizr Kahn who is in his senior years.




Sadiq Aman Khan is a British politician who has been Mayor of London since May 2016. He was the Member of Parliament for Tooting from 2005 to 2016. Wikipedia

Born: October 8, 1970 (age 45), Tooting, London, United Kingdom

Nationality: British

Spouse: Saadiya Khan (m. 1994)

Party: Labour Party

Children: Anisah Khan, Ammarah Khan

Education: University of Law (1993), University of North London (1992
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Jul 30, 2016 9:40 PM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Aragorn11: Hi Cc,

Its the rhetoric I abhor. Obviously Trump has not been elected as President, but his language is disgusting, towards Muslims and Mexicans to name but a few, something the Brexit campaign cashed in on.

Both Brexit and Trump's campaign promote fear and hate, creating division and non existent enemies.



I forgot to reply to the part where you posted making our world unsafe.

It became unsafe long before Trump came into the picture.

No matter who ends up taking Obama's place at the helm it will continue to be unsafe.
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Jul 31, 2016 3:36 AM CST Trump & Brexit. Rhetoric that is self serving and making our world unsafe.
crayons: i would encourage you to to ask me for more info or more pictures.

Immediately After Muslim Mayor Elected, London’s Iconic Buses Proclaim “Glory To Allah”


Pamela Geller laugh

No, just no. I guess if one is going to read Pamela Geller and take what she says as truth, one would be considered extremely naieve. The article is so full of untruths about Khan, I'm not going to even comment on it.

The bus campaign had nothing to do with Khan and was planned for a few cities, not just London, to raise money for the 10 million that were displaced in Syria. A worthy campaign I would have thought.
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