Would you shoot a 31 year old man who was in your teenage daughter's bedroom (11)
secretagent09: It is a given that there will be comments about Americans loving their guns. Regardless that this happened in America, would you have taken the same action as this mother did.Your daughter is 16 years old. She has a male visitor 31 years old three times a week who comes to her bedroom while her mother isn't in the house.
This one particular time the mother found the man in her daughter's bedroom kissing the daughter.
Mom gets her gun and shoots the guy.
Would you have done the same thing?
In the U.S. there are laws that allow you to shoot an intruder that is on your property but not in your house unless the person is a significant threat to you.
I know of a same situation where the mother overheard her daughter (16 years old) telling her girlfriend about the man she was with who was 28 years old. That mother went to the man's place of business the next day and threatened him that if he ever went near her daughter again she would call the police and charge him with child endangerment.
What do you think the mother in the article should have done?
This one particular time the mother found the man in her daughter's bedroom kissing the daughter.
Mom gets her gun and shoots the guy.
Would you have done the same thing?
In the U.S. there are laws that allow you to shoot an intruder that is on your property but not in your house unless the person is a significant threat to you.
I know of a same situation where the mother overheard her daughter (16 years old) telling her girlfriend about the man she was with who was 28 years old. That mother went to the man's place of business the next day and threatened him that if he ever went near her daughter again she would call the police and charge him with child endangerment.
What do you think the mother in the article should have done?
I wouldn't shoot him but he'd have a major problem with me, that's for sure (as would she)
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To take this story at face value, then there is absolutely nothing to discuss...the guy is dead.
Women can get away with a lot more using firearms then men in the U.S.A after all women are tiny and men are big and scary...
There are two sides to every story...wait, just one...her story wins.
Don't mess with a black widow....lol
Women can get away with a lot more using firearms then men in the U.S.A after all women are tiny and men are big and scary...
There are two sides to every story...wait, just one...her story wins.
Don't mess with a black widow....lol
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Not going into the politics of it, but if she didn't have a gun, she couldn't have shot him.
What is the age of consent in the US by the way?
What is the age of consent in the US by the way?
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northland64bryan: To take this story at face value, then there is absolutely nothing to discuss...the guy is dead.
Women can get away with a lot more using firearms then men in the U.S.A after all women are tiny and men are big and scary...
There are two sides to every story...wait, just one...her story wins.
Don't mess with a black widow....lol
Women can get away with a lot more using firearms then men in the U.S.A after all women are tiny and men are big and scary...
There are two sides to every story...wait, just one...her story wins.
Don't mess with a black widow....lol
Her story doesn't win. She was arrested.
Furthermore, it doesn't matter whether the woman was tiny or large. The law is what will decide this case.
@Molly - the age of consent here is 18.
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No, I wouldn't have done the same thing. The man has committed no crime. The mother knew he came over, sounds like, but I could be wrong. The daughter apparently had not had a problem with him; he was a regular visitor. She can get mad all she wants, but it's not a justifiable shooting.
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BUT WHAT OF THIS ISSUE?
I am personally familiar with a person(s),
male of 35 years of age and the female of 16!
The female is 16, going through a divorce, and has one child... and expecting a 2nd child (that she was not aware of at the time). After the male found out her actual age, he discontinued the interest towards her. SHE pursued him, and to the point of him reconsidering the situation.
NOTE: The mother of the girl, approved of the relationship.
We all mature at different stages of our lives.
Your opinion:
#1... Should it have remained, as OK, with the additional info?
#2... Should it have been discontinued, simply because of age?
~JOHN~
I am personally familiar with a person(s),
male of 35 years of age and the female of 16!
The female is 16, going through a divorce, and has one child... and expecting a 2nd child (that she was not aware of at the time). After the male found out her actual age, he discontinued the interest towards her. SHE pursued him, and to the point of him reconsidering the situation.
NOTE: The mother of the girl, approved of the relationship.
We all mature at different stages of our lives.
Your opinion:
#1... Should it have remained, as OK, with the additional info?
#2... Should it have been discontinued, simply because of age?
~JOHN~
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CapNemo: I understand and respect what you're saying. I am unable to access the link provided in the opening of this discussion, so I don't have all the details. I agree that it's a Moral Crime, I don't advocate that age difference when it comes to a girl that young. I only know they kissed, I don't know if it went further. Still not a crime tho, and publicizing this guy's defective moral compass may get you in trouble legally as slander and defamation. Please understand, I'm not standing up for this guy, just throwing my 2 cents in for input to the discussion.
I appreciate everyone's input and thank you for you two cents
I will copy what is in the link and hope that it's not over 4,000 words.
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Well, unless your state's age of consent law allows for that, a 31 year old grown man shouldn't be with a 16 year old girl. As for shooting the guy, I don't know about that. Again, it all depends on what the law allows for. Sorry, I just wouldn't want to get in trouble. 
secretagent09: It is a given that there will be comments about Americans loving their guns. Regardless that this happened in America, would you have taken the same action as this mother did.Your daughter is 16 years old. She has a male visitor 31 years old three times a week who comes to her bedroom while her mother isn't in the house.
This one particular time the mother found the man in her daughter's bedroom kissing the daughter.
Mom gets her gun and shoots the guy.
Would you have done the same thing?
In the U.S. there are laws that allow you to shoot an intruder that is on your property but not in your house unless the person is a significant threat to you.
I know of a same situation where the mother overheard her daughter (16 years old) telling her girlfriend about the man she was with who was 28 years old. That mother went to the man's place of business the next day and threatened him that if he ever went near her daughter again she would call the police and charge him with child endangerment.
What do you think the mother in the article should have done?
This one particular time the mother found the man in her daughter's bedroom kissing the daughter.
Mom gets her gun and shoots the guy.
Would you have done the same thing?
In the U.S. there are laws that allow you to shoot an intruder that is on your property but not in your house unless the person is a significant threat to you.
I know of a same situation where the mother overheard her daughter (16 years old) telling her girlfriend about the man she was with who was 28 years old. That mother went to the man's place of business the next day and threatened him that if he ever went near her daughter again she would call the police and charge him with child endangerment.
What do you think the mother in the article should have done?
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CapNemo: I understand and respect what you're saying. I am unable to access the link provided in the opening of this discussion, so I don't have all the details. I agree that it's a Moral Crime, I don't advocate that age difference when it comes to a girl that young. I only know they kissed, I don't know if it went further. Still not a crime tho, and publicizing this guy's defective moral compass may get you in trouble legally as slander and defamation. Please understand, I'm not standing up for this guy, just throwing my 2 cents in for input to the discussion.
This is info from the link that you couldn't access
New details have emerged in the case of an Oklahoma mother who was arrested after shooting a 31-year-old man she found kissing her daughter in bed.
Valerie Fowler admitted to having met the man before, after initially labeling the unidentified man as an “intruder” according to official documentation.
Fowler was initially arrested for assault with a deadly weapon after shooting the man twice, wounding him, Jon Scott reported.
Her 16-year-old daughter told police the man visits about three times a week while Fowler is at work.
Trial attorney Wendy Patrick said on Happening Now that the investigation of this will be similar to a police-involved shooting:
“What facts and circumstances were available to the mother—what did she see, what did she hear, what did she know?”
“Was it a defense-of-others? [Did she] think her daughter was in danger?”
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thank god guns laws are tight in ireland!
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Your daughter is 16 years old. She has a male visitor 31 years old three times a week who comes to her bedroom while her mother isn't in the house.
This one particular time the mother found the man in her daughter's bedroom kissing the daughter.
Mom gets her gun and shoots the guy.
Would you have done the same thing?
In the U.S. there are laws that allow you to shoot an intruder that is on your property but not in your house unless the person is a significant threat to you.
I know of a same situation where the mother overheard her daughter (16 years old) telling her girlfriend about the man she was with who was 28 years old. That mother went to the man's place of business the next day and threatened him that if he ever went near her daughter again she would call the police and charge him with child endangerment.
What do you think the mother in the article should have done?