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Sep 12, 2016 10:59 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
Why Clinton’s bad weekend won’t rewrite the race
With most voters already decided, the effect of her health scare and insults might move numbers only at the margins.
By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE 09/12/16


“Every rule has been broken in politics this year," said one Republican
A lot of people are sure it has after Hillary Clinton was caught on video collapsing in the street. A lot of people have been sure about a lot of things in this 2016 contest against Donald Trump. Not a lot of them have had any lasting relationship to political reality.

“The pathways for him are still few. He’s not ahead in places he needs to win. Until that happens, she’s still in the driver’s seat, with or without yesterday,” said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Poll. “Everything becomes another thing in a long list: Trump’s misstatement No. 24, was that the deal breaker? The answer is no. Is Hillary’s secrecy, health and email foundation woes the deal breaker? Not apparently.”

And despite Clinton’s collapse on her way out of the 9/11 memorial ceremony Sunday in New York, which feeds every conspiracy theorist, every hungry Republican, every nervous Democrat, and every journalist and commentator looking for signs of life in this race, the campaign, for all its tabloid moments, has been more like a Ferris wheel than a roller coaster.

There are the people who hate Clinton, hate the changes they see in the country which they think Clinton would only accelerate. They’re voting for Trump. Then there are the people who hate Trump, are disgusted by his race-baiting and terrified about him actually being president. They’re voting for Clinton.

The Washington Post/ABC News poll out Sunday showed 7 in 10 voters have “definitely” chosen their candidate already. That’s in line with the number of undecideds in 2008 around this point in the race. Notably, 60 percent of voters said Clinton is qualified to serve as president, while only 36 percent said the same about Trump—a big hurdle for the Republican to overcome in persuading them to vote for him.

“It's people who are uncomfortable with both candidates, and it's more about making someone so uncomfortable with one of those candidates that they have to vote for the other,” said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute, about the few undecided voters left in America. “But it's just playing on the edges at this point.”

And even as the Sept. 26 debate approaches, rather than policy substance, this week looks to be more about the medical histories of both senior-citizen candidates than their positions on terrorism or job creation. Clinton’s campaign says she’ll be releasing a fuller history at the end of the week. Trump, whose existing public medical information consists of a letter dashed off in five minutes by a gastroenterologist while the limo waited outside, will talk about his health regimen on a TV show with Dr. Mehmet Oz, who has been repeatedly cited for promoting fake miracle cures and other junk science.

“The poll numbers have been much more typical than the headlines,” he said.

That’s what the Washington Post/ABC News poll shows over time: Clinton at 48 percent and Trump at 39 percent in June; Clinton at 45 percent and Trump at 39 percent in July; Clinton at 48 percent and Trump at 40 percent in August; Clinton at 46 percent and Trump at 41 percent now.


Overall, the Washington Post/ABC News poll showed Clinton up 8 points, slightly ahead of NBC News and Fox which showed her up by 6 and USA Today, which showed her up by 7. Those all came out Sunday, though, ahead of her incident. She's similarly stayed consistently ahead in battleground state polls, which tend to be more relevant for tracking the realities of presidential races than the mood swings.

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Sep 12, 2016 11:24 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
The numbers had already been moving before this past weekend. And I suspect to see them moving continuously the further and deeper Clinton's medical condition(s) are revealed. She's on the brink of being hospitalized, at the rate she's been going.

This is starting to look like an Elvis-capade...needing a fix to go on, needing a tranquilizer to come down.
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Sep 13, 2016 3:29 AM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
YouMeUs: The numbers had already been moving before this past weekend. And I suspect to see them moving continuously the further and deeper Clinton's medical condition(s) are revealed. She's on the brink of being hospitalized, at the rate she's been going.

This is starting to look like an Elvis-capade...needing a fix to go on, needing a tranquilizer to come down.
Her , her minders and the press have been planning on Trump shooting his mouth off one too many times . Now she is having to play catch-up as its not happened . And she just can't pull a crowd .
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Sep 13, 2016 4:26 AM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
YouMeUs: The numbers had already been moving before this past weekend. And I suspect to see them moving continuously the further and deeper Clinton's medical condition(s) are revealed. She's on the brink of being hospitalized, at the rate she's been going.

This is starting to look like an Elvis-capade...needing a fix to go on, needing a tranquilizer to come down.

Hey YMU, And the sad thing... Ladies and Gentlemen... Elvis has left the building! rolling on the floor laughingyay conversing

She can't help her illness, just pray for her, she'll be just fine.bouquet
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Sep 13, 2016 4:32 AM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
epirb: Her , her minders and the press have been planning on Trump shooting his mouth off one too many times . Now she is having to play catch-up as its not happened . And she just can't pull a crowd .
Epirb, what article are you reading? Who told you Hillary has to play catch-up? And what does pulling a crowd to do with her being in the lead in the polls?

READ THE ARTICLE! HILLARY IS LEADING TRUMP IN THE POLLS! She doesn't need the crowds. Trump needs the crowds, his polling is down, which meaning those who come to his rallies in the crowds ARE NOT THE ONES VOTING FOR HIM IN THE POLLS... duuuuh!doh
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Sep 13, 2016 4:44 AM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
SistaCallie: Epirb, what article are you reading? Who told you Hillary has to play catch-up? And what does pulling a crowd to do with her being in the lead in the polls?

READ THE ARTICLE! HILLARY IS LEADING TRUMP IN THE POLLS! She doesn't need the crowds. Trump needs the crowds, his polling is down, which meaning those who come to his rallies in the crowds ARE NOT THE ONES VOTING FOR HIM IN THE POLLS... duuuuh!
Sista , sometimes I wonder if you are not on some parallel continuum to Earth . For Hillary its all falling down around her . Like yourself , some people have invested their souls in her winning . Clinton is a charade . I hope you don't suffer too much when she losers come November comfort
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Sep 13, 2016 6:36 AM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
wonder which one of the Hillary s will be left standing!
Will the real Hillary please stand up?
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Sep 13, 2016 7:00 AM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
quote=Conrad73]wonder which one of the Hillary s will be left standing!
Will the real Hillary please stand up?

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Sep 13, 2016 12:42 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
The real Hillary Clinton is standing, although she may be lying in bed resting... it appears in the California polls Clinton is leading Trump by 25 points, and California is a Republican state, and all the other state polls WHERE TRUMP SHOULD BE LEADING taken on Tuesday September 13th, Hillary is leading Trump by 2 to 10 points over Trump..so go figure out who's standing and who isn't standing up... conversing comfort
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Sep 13, 2016 3:17 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
SistaCallie: The real Hillary Clinton is standing, although she may be lying in bed resting... it appears in the California polls Clinton is leading Trump by 25 points, and California is a Republican state, and all the other state polls WHERE TRUMP SHOULD BE LEADING taken on Tuesday September 13th, Hillary is leading Trump by 2 to 10 points over Trump..so go figure out who's standing and who isn't standing up...
Keep the faith Sista , you have nothing to worry about with those figures thumbs up relax . Take for granted the sisterhoods well earned victory . danceline danceline .
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Sep 13, 2016 3:30 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
Wizardglick
WizardglickWizardglickBurlington, Ontario Canada1 Threads 263 Posts
Oh really?playball
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Sep 13, 2016 3:38 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
Wizardglick: Oh really?
my cat caught a mouse....playball sheep popcorn popcorn
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Sep 13, 2016 3:58 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Conrad73: wonder which one of the Hillary s will be left standing!
Will the real Hillary please stand up?
Could be , looks more like she has lost weight on account of the underlying health issue that has led to the pneumonia . Lack of campaign photos while using file pics has led to the different person appearance in her latest walking dead post daughter visit . How strange she would not find pneumonia important enough to take it easy but important enough to not tell all her staff , bizarre .
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Sep 13, 2016 3:58 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
I was actually talking about Hillary's Body-Double dancing out of Chelsea's Apartment a scant two hours after collapsing at the 9/11-Site!
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Sep 13, 2016 4:45 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
epirb: Could be , looks more like she has lost weight on account of the underlying health issue that has led to the pneumonia . Lack of campaign photos while using file pics has led to the different person appearance in her latest walking dead post daughter visit . How strange she would not find pneumonia important enough to take it easy but important enough to not tell all her staff , bizarre .


Hillary Clinton has an 80% chance of winning the presidency.
September, 13th

"...elections model suggests that Hillary Clinton is favored to win the presidency, based on the latest state and national polls. A victory by Mr. Trump remains quite possible: Mrs. Clinton’s chance of losing is about the same as the probability that an N.F.L. kicker misses a 45-yard field goal....."





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Sep 13, 2016 4:57 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
She emerged from Chealse's place 10yrs younger, 20lbs thinner and full of energy...Hillary's stand in, no doubt.laugh
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Sep 13, 2016 5:04 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Conrad73: She emerged from Chealse's place 10yrs younger, 20lbs thinner and full of energy...Hillary's stand in, no doubt.


wow

That Chelsea's place is miraculous!

Did you get the address?




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Sep 13, 2016 8:09 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
hotburninluv
hotburninluvhotburninluvPalm Desert, California USA30 Threads 1 Polls 297 Posts
epirb: Her , her minders and the press have been planning on Trump shooting his mouth off one too many times . Now she is having to play catch-up as its not happened . And she just can't pull a crowd .


Hillary is just a DULL and a DUDE as a candidate! Period! Couldn't draw FLIES! She DOESN'T INSPIRE ANYONE. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OR ANYTHING for ANYONE WHO a KNOWN LIAR and is CORRUPT as well. A losing combination...if you ask me! Who getting excited ABOUT HER?...except for maybe sista calle and Ralphie BOY....they don't REALIZE YET, but will soon, that ONLY their beloved main stream media are carrying the water for her...and paints a favorable picture of her....extolling her virtues...if she has any!

Just look at the crowds the DONALD is drawing! She can't even fill a high school gym....he fills a stadium! Look people!...there is a movemnet of people joining, who have never voted for years....they will be a real force! And they are just NOT registering to vote for HILLARY! This SILENT MAJORITY is just waiting to run out ANY DEMOCRAT running for office! You know..."the basket of deplorables (as Hillary "rotten" Clinton has said...more proof she may have brain damage, in addition to pneumonia)that DIED for their country during World War II and soldiers that took a bullet in the head in Vietnam....plenty of brave people out their that served their county "honorably" so this Barry Obama and Hillary can sleep comfortably in the "blanket of security" THEY HAVE GIVEN THEM! They are joining together to wreck AMERICA with their LEFTIST IDEOLOGY ....you know "hate AMERICA" speeches. It's what THEY BELIEVE...BUT, thankfully, the MAJORITY DON'T!
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Sep 13, 2016 8:20 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
hotburninluv
hotburninluvhotburninluvPalm Desert, California USA30 Threads 1 Polls 297 Posts
lifeisadream: That Chelsea's place is miraculous!

Did you get the address?


The Clinton HANDLER's didn't have the common sense, nor decency to take this poor woman (Hillary) to the Intensive CARE UNIT of ANY emergency hospital!

It's NO BIGGIE...Bill, just said THEY are USED to seeing her fall down---it's "par for the course" for her, bill said laughing!

Chelsea's PLACE is NO HOSPITAL!

WHY!???? BECAUSE, THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY UNKNOWN DOCTOR TO EXAMINE HER AND FINDING OUT WHAT HER REAL HEALTH ISSUES ARE!!! It more than pneumonia, if you ask me! The public, who be ASTOUNDED on what THEY would find!
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Sep 13, 2016 8:35 PM CST Clinton vs Trump: The Race Is STILL ON!
SuzyQsBread
SuzyQsBreadSuzyQsBreadBrewton, Alabama USA1 Threads 69 Posts
I'm just sitting over here waiting for the REAL candidates to come out rolling on the floor laughing This whole election has to be one monumental joke, right? Please...say it is uh oh
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