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Sep 14, 2016 9:21 PM CST School shootings
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Due to all the school shootings around the U.S., a school in Los Alamos, New Mexico MAY soon be keeping a gun/guns hidden in a locked safe on campus.

For those who agree with this say it will give officer's a quicker response time should there be a shooting on the campus, other's who are against it say that the student's will know within one month, the secret location of the gun/guns.

What is your opinion? Should guns be allowed on school campuses?
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Sep 14, 2016 9:34 PM CST School shootings
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Friskyone: Due to all the school shootings around the U.S., a school in Los Alamos, New Mexico MAY soon be keeping a gun/guns hidden in a locked safe on campus.

For those who agree with this say it will give officer's a quicker response time should there be a shooting on the campus, other's who are against it say that the student's will know within one month, the secret location of the gun/guns.

What is your opinion? Should guns be allowed on school campuses?



I don't understand why most gun-free zones are not abolished, including those on university campuses.
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Sep 14, 2016 9:51 PM CST School shootings
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,223 Posts
Friskyone: Due to all the school shootings around the U.S., a school in Los Alamos, New Mexico MAY soon be keeping a gun/guns hidden in a locked safe on campus.

For those who agree with this say it will give officer's a quicker response time should there be a shooting on the campus, other's who are against it say that the student's will know within one month, the secret location of the gun/guns.

What is your opinion? Should guns be allowed on school campuses?



Absolutely not. When the students find out that guns are on campus they won't have to worry about getting their gun through the metal detector.

If somebody wants to shoot up the school they will get into that locked cabinet. Then there will be dead bodies and lawsuits against the school.

The first school shooting in the U.S. was in July 1764 in Greencastle, PA.

The last one was September 2016 in Alpine, Texas.





The following link is about 250 years of school shootings.


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Sep 14, 2016 11:17 PM CST School shootings
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
secretagent09: Absolutely not. When the students find out that guns are on campus they won't have to worry about getting their gun through the metal detector.

If somebody wants to shoot up the school they will get into that locked cabinet. Then there will be dead bodies and lawsuits against the school.

The first school shooting in the U.S. was in July 1764 in Greencastle, PA.

The last one was September 2016 in Alpine, Texas.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_StatesThe following link is about 250 years of school shootings.


I don't think it's a good idea myself and I hope it isn't approved.
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Sep 15, 2016 1:25 AM CST School shootings
Is that a Glock in your pocket, or are you carrying an illegal weapon laugh
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Sep 15, 2016 2:28 AM CST School shootings
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
Friskyone: Due to all the school shootings around the U.S., a school in Los Alamos, New Mexico MAY soon be keeping a gun/guns hidden in a locked safe on campus.

For those who agree with this say it will give officer's a quicker response time should there be a shooting on the campus, other's who are against it say that the student's will know within one month, the secret location of the gun/guns.

What is your opinion? Should guns be allowed on school campuses?


With eyeball, voice and fingerprint recognition they should be able to install a student-proof lock. I still don't know if keeping guns on campus is a good idea, however, technology could help limit the danger of doing so.

Ultimately this will lead to the robot policeman in school who's always armed and on patrol. Schools will be perhaps one of the first places for robocop.
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Sep 15, 2016 2:47 AM CST School shootings
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
Rumples: With eyeball, voice and fingerprint recognition they should be able to install a student-proof lock. I still don't know if keeping guns on campus is a good idea, however, technology could help limit the danger of doing so.

Ultimately this will lead to the robot policeman in school who's always armed and on patrol. Schools will be perhaps one of the first places for robocop.


Or what about an alarm bell which doubles as a sonic weapon?

As soon as shots are fired on campus someone can trigger the alarm and the weapon rings out with everyone collapsing to the floor writhing in agony... and the children are safe.
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Sep 15, 2016 3:12 AM CST School shootings
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
It seems ,only in USA, guns allowed at schools.

doh doh doh
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Sep 15, 2016 3:14 AM CST School shootings
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
Countries with stricter gun laws don't have the problems with shootings as the USA have, simples. doh
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Sep 15, 2016 3:16 AM CST School shootings
at the moment the only Firearms "allowed",are the Guns of the Criminal!
Can anyone say Slaughterhouse?very mad
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Sep 15, 2016 3:17 AM CST School shootings
KNenagh: Countries with stricter gun laws don't have the problems with shootings as the USA have, simples.

yep,Criminals are known to follow the Laws by the letter!grin
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Sep 15, 2016 3:19 AM CST School shootings
yep,an Inaccessible Gun is a useful One indeed!
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Sep 15, 2016 3:19 AM CST School shootings
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Rumples: With eyeball, voice and fingerprint recognition they should be able to install a student-proof lock. I still don't know if keeping guns on campus is a good idea, however, technology could help limit the danger of doing so.

Ultimately this will lead to the robot policeman in school who's always armed and on patrol. Schools will be perhaps one of the first places for robocop.


Honestly, I really don't think that the state has thought this out thoroughly as I have not heard anyone suggesting any such technology.

dunno
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Sep 15, 2016 3:32 AM CST School shootings
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Conrad73: yep,an Inaccessible Gun is a useful One indeed!


It doesn't seem sensible to me if there is already an armed officer patrolling the campus anyway and other's already being dispatched.confused
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Sep 15, 2016 3:38 AM CST School shootings
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
Conrad73: yep,Criminals are known to follow the Laws by the letter!


Look at the majority of shootings done in the States - it's not criminals, it's people with mental health issues in a lot of cases.

If guns aren't accessible to the general public, the general public can't go on a shooting spree.

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Sep 15, 2016 3:57 AM CST School shootings
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
Friskyone: Honestly, I really don't think that the state has thought this out thoroughly as I have not heard anyone suggesting any such technology.


The locks are do-able now, surely? Or go one further and have guns which can only fire in the hands of selected personnel. These are not beyond our technology or our expense.

Yet it's going to be a while until we see robocop, though not as much of a while as some may think.
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Sep 15, 2016 3:58 AM CST School shootings
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
Friskyone: Although this is a bit off topic, I would prefer that the innocent child not be saturated in sewage, instead the chester should be surprised by some kind of device that would clamp down on his hands/private area, rendering him paralyzed until he is taken into custody by police.


A bit of a joke that suggestion, Frisky, as was the school bell doubling as a sonic weapon.

But these are jokes which warn of a serious danger. The danger of traumatising or damaging your kids whilst trying to protect them.
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Sep 15, 2016 4:28 AM CST School shootings
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
KNenagh: Countries with stricter gun laws don't have the problems with shootings as the USA have, simples.


The US shares a huge border with Mexico which leads to a whole continent of heavily armed gangsters. That border is effectively a massive gaping hole in any law which prohibits guns and there is a reason why civilisation is most armed at the frontier.

You can't compare one law designed for the heart of civilisation(Europe)with another law designed for the barbarian borderlands(America).
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Sep 15, 2016 5:04 AM CST School shootings
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
Rumples: The US shares a huge border with Mexico which leads to a whole continent of heavily armed gangsters. That border is effectively a massive gaping hole in any law which prohibits guns and there is a reason why civilisation is most armed at the frontier.

You can't compare one law designed for the heart of civilisation(Europe)with another law designed for the barbarian borderlands(America).


Similar to how it is with class.

If you're law-abiding working class American you're more likely to encounter an armed thug and tight gun regulations simply mean you have no gun of your own. The black market is a lot closer to the working class - just as it's a lot closer to the Texan - and this needs to be considered.

If you're wealthy then a gun is much more likely to be in your own hand when it kills you or someone you care about. The rich are less likely to need a gun in self-defence and tight gun regulations protect the wealthier American from himself.
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Sep 15, 2016 5:34 AM CST School shootings
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
Rumples: Similar to how it is with class.

If you're law-abiding working class American you're more likely to encounter an armed thug and tight gun regulations simply mean you have no gun of your own. The black market is a lot closer to the working class - just as it's a lot closer to the Texan - and this needs to be considered.

If you're wealthy then a gun is much more likely to be in your own hand when it kills you or someone you care about. The rich are less likely to need a gun in self-defence and tight gun regulations protect the wealthier American from himself.


That's the rational assessment. If you live in place where instinctively you know to park within a block of your home to limit the chances of being mugged then the likelihood is that you're working class. If you're streetwise then you're more likely to see(or feel)the problem with tighter gun regs in America.

If you're from a safe-zone the chances are you'll never actually need a gun for the purpose of self-defence. Tight gun regulations make most sense to the streetwitless of America.
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