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Oct 14, 2016 6:20 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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If such fossils have existed for millions of years then why were they never found by or known to any civilization in the history of mankind?

Why are there no discoveries by native Americans in all the years previous when they roamed the American continents?

There is no belief of dinosaurs in the Native American religion or tradition.

Why were there no discoveries prior to the nineteenth century in any part of the world?
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Oct 14, 2016 6:38 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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The class “Dinosauria” was originally defined by “Sir” Richard Owen of the Royal Society, and Superintendent of the British Museum Natural History Department in 1842.

In other words, the existence of dinosaurs was first speculatively hypothesized by a knighted museum-head before a single dinosaur fossil had ever been found.

Media and mainstream press worldwide got to work hyping stories of these supposed long-lost animals, and behold, 12 years later in 1854, Ferdinand Vandiveer Hayden during his exploration of the upper Missouri River, found “proof” of Owen’s theory!

A few unidentified teeth he mailed to leading paleontologist Joseph Leidy, who several years later declared them to be from an ancient extinct “Trachodon,” dinosaur (which beyond ironically means “rough tooth”).

Firstly, it should be needless to say that it is impossible to reconstruct an entire hypothetical ancient animal based on a few teeth!

But even more importantly, it is dubious that a myriad of ancient reptile/bird and reptile/mammal transitional forms necessary for the blossoming theory of evolution, would be hypothesized and then conveniently “discovered” by teams of evolutionist archeologists purposely out looking to find such fossils!
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Oct 14, 2016 6:46 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
mollybaby
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CrystalMethod: If such fossils have existed for millions of years then why were they never found by or known to any civilization in the history of mankind?

Why are there no discoveries by native Americans in all the years previous when they roamed the American continents?

There is no belief of dinosaurs in the Native American religion or tradition.

Why were there no discoveries prior to the nineteenth century in any part of the world?


Maybe they didn't look for them?

Archaeology is a relatively recent study
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Oct 14, 2016 6:47 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby: Maybe they didn't look for them?

Archaeology is a relatively recent study




Discoveries and excavations
seem not to be made by
disinterested people,
such as :
farmers,
ranchers,
hikers,
outdoor recreationists,
building construction industry basement excavators,
pipeline trench diggers,
and mining industry personnel

But rather by people with vested interests, such as :
paleontologists,
scientists,
university professors,
and museum organization personnel

Who were intentionally looking for dinosaur bones or who have studied dinosaurs previously.

The finds are often made during special dinosaur-bone hunting trips and expeditions by these people to far-away regions already inhabited and explored.
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Oct 14, 2016 6:50 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
mollybaby
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CrystalMethod: Discoveries and excavations
seem not to be made by
disinterested people,
such as :
farmers,
ranchers,
hikers,
outdoor recreationists,
building construction industry basement excavators,
pipeline trench diggers,
and mining industry personnel

But rather by people with vested interests, such as :
paleontologists,
scientists,
university professors,
and museum organization personnel

Who were intentionally looking for dinosaur bones or who have studied dinosaurs previously.

The finds are often made during special dinosaur-bone hunting trips and expeditions by these people to far-away regions already inhabited and explored.


A lot of the most recent archaeological finds in this country were found as a result of the laying of gas-pipes through the country.
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Oct 14, 2016 6:51 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby: A lot of the most recent archaeological finds in this country were found as a result of the laying of gas-pipes through the country.


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Oct 14, 2016 6:55 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby: A lot of the most recent archaeological finds in this country were found as a result of the laying of gas-pipes through the country.


More believable is the case of the discovery of the first original Dead Sea scrolls in 1947, which were unintentionally discovered by a child, and which were all published by 1955.

In some cases of a discovery of dinosaur bones by a disinterested person, it was suggested to them by some ‘professional’ in the field to look or dig in a certain area.

Also very interesting to note are special areas set aside and designated as dinosaur parks for which amateur dinosaur hunters are required to first obtain a dinosaur hunting license.

$$$$$$$$
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Oct 14, 2016 6:57 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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Whatever destination these establishment-funded archeologists
and paleontologists set,
it seemed they found incredible numbers of fossils in tiny areas.

In one of the largest dinosaur excavation sites, called the Ruth Mason Quarry, over 2,000 fossils were allegedly discovered.

Casts and original skeletons assembled from these bones are currently on display in over 60 museums world-wide.

Florentino Ameghino, head of paleontology at La Plata Museum is amazingly responsible for 6,000 fossil species supposedly discovered throughout his career all in Argentina.

Dinosaur hunter Earl Douglass sent 350 tons of excavated “dinosaur” bones to the Carnegie Museum of Natural History throughout his career, all coming from the “Dinosaur National Monument” in Utah.

During an expedition to Patagonia, Dr. Luis Chiappe and Dr. Lowell Dingus supposedly discovered thousands of dinosaur eggs at a site of only a few hundred square yards.

Many experts have mentioned how such finds of huge quantities of fossils in one area, by just a few highly-invested individuals, goes against the laws of natural probability and lends credence to the likelihood of forgeries or concentrated planting efforts.
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Oct 14, 2016 7:02 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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“‘Dinosaur’ bones sell for a lot of money at auctions.

It is a profitable business.

There is pressure for academics to publish papers.

Museums are in the business of producing displays that are popular and appealing.

Movie producers and the media need to produce material to sell to stay in business.

The mainstream media loves to hype alleged dinosaurs finds.
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Oct 14, 2016 7:02 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
mollybaby
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Most finds are actually by regular people.

I am not saying dinosaurs in particular, as we don't appear to have much from the Jurassic period here.

One ornithopod fossil was found a couple of years ago alright.

and there are the cool tetrapod prints on Valentia Island. I've seen those.
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Oct 14, 2016 7:06 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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The fact that “T-Rex” bones
have sold at auctions for upwards of $12 million !!!!!!!!!!!!


shows how lucrative the field of dinosaur-hunting can be,

and it just happens to be Museum officials who seem to make the most prolific finds!

The first dinosaur to ever be publicly displayed was the “Hadrosaurus foulkii,”

at Edward Drinker Cope’s Academy of Natural Sciences in Philidelphia.

The bones were co-discovered by Joseph Leidy, Cope’s esteemed professor, and the man responsible for the “Trachodon” toothosaurus.

The original Hadrosaurus reconstruction, which is still on display today,

shows a huge plaster cast bipedal reptile standing upright using its tail as a third-leg.

What few people know, however, is that NO skull was ever discovered

and NO original bones were put in the public exhibit.
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Oct 14, 2016 7:09 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby: Most finds are actually by regular people.

I am not saying dinosaurs in particular, as we don't appear to have much from the Jurassic period here.

One ornithopod fossil was found a couple of years ago alright.

and there are the cool tetrapod prints on Valentia Island. I've seen those.


A visual and a sculptural artist were promptly hired to invent a skull,

and from the illustrations of another artist, who had depicted the Iguanadon, the two artists drew the same face for the Hadrosaurus foulkii.

The people involved could now technically defend the existence of this dinosaur, if someone were to ask.

The stunt worked out so well, and fooled the public so thoroughly, that they could later change the head of the creature without anyone noticing.

To this day, Hadrosaurus foulkii is on display at the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia.

The bones are said to be kept behind heavy, closed doors, but a plaster copy is exhibited in their place.


So we learn of an iguana skull being substituted for the skull of a dinosaur on display.

Was the public told at the time? What are we not being told today?”
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Oct 14, 2016 7:11 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
mollybaby
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CrystalMethod: A visual and a sculptural artist were promptly hired to invent a skull,

and from the illustrations of another artist, who had depicted the Iguanadon, the two artists drew the same face for the Hadrosaurus foulkii.

The people involved could now technically defend the existence of this dinosaur, if someone were to ask.

The stunt worked out so well, and fooled the public so thoroughly, that they could later change the head of the creature without anyone noticing.

To this day, Hadrosaurus foulkii is on display at the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia.

The bones are said to be kept behind heavy, closed doors, but a plaster copy is exhibited in their place.So we learn of an iguana skull being substituted for the skull of a dinosaur on display.

Was the public told at the time? What are we not being told today?”


i think you should start a worldwide campaign to bring it to the masses
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Oct 14, 2016 7:12 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby:

I am not saying dinosaurs in particular, as we don't appear to have much from the Jurassic period here.



But if dinos ruled the earth back then, how come you haven't find many in ireland. But lots have been found in Patagonia?
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Oct 14, 2016 7:15 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby:

One ornithopod fossil was found a couple of years ago alright.


Real fossils are kept behind closed doors. No independent scientits has ever studied one. The ones displayed in Museums are plaster copies.
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Oct 14, 2016 7:16 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby: i think you should start a worldwide campaign to bring it to the masses



Its ok to question things Mollybabe.
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Oct 14, 2016 7:19 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby:

One ornithopod fossil was found a couple of years ago alright.

and there are the cool tetrapod prints on Valentia Island. I've seen those.


What we are not being told is that this is the rule and the not the exception.

To this day not a single complete skeleton of any dinosaur has ever been found!

All the museum displays, models, mannequins, cartoons, and movies of prehistoric monsters you have ever seen are all imaginative reconstructions

based on incomplete skeletons arranged in a manner paleontologists believe to be most realistic.

Furthermore, the skeletons exhibited in museums are all admittedly intricate fabrications made of plaster, fiberglass, various epoxies, and other animal bones, not original fossils
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Oct 14, 2016 7:23 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
mollybaby
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CrystalMethod: But if dinos ruled the earth back then, how come you haven't find many in ireland. But lots have been found in Patagonia?


There aren't even snakes here! The landbridge closed before they came over.

We have found little beyond the Mesolithic. Most finds would be from Neolithic onwards.
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Oct 14, 2016 7:23 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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When “dinosaur” bones are transported and prepared they use strips of burlap soaked in plaster to jacket over the fossils.

Then after applying a tissue separator to keep the plaster from direct contact with the bone, the soaked burlap strips are laid on until it is totally encased in a protective mummy-like coating ready for safe transport.

In an article titled “A Fossil’s Trail From Excavation to Exhibit” one insider remarked that, “Through moldmaking and casting we can totally fabricate limbs, ribs, vertebrae, etc., for the missing pieces of an articulated skeletal mount.

Plaster, fiberglass and epoxies are often and commonly used.

In reconstruction work on single bones, small to large cracks can be filled in with mache or plaster mixed with dextrin, a starch that imparts an adhesive quality and extra hardness to regular molding plaster.

We’ve also had success using epoxy putties. Large missing fragments can be sculpted directly in place with these same materials.

In other words, Museum personnel work with plaster and other materials to transport and fabricate skeletons and missing or incomplete bones all the time.

In fact, the huge “dinosaur bone” displays found in museums across the world are admittedly carefully prepared fakes!

No independent researcher has ever examined a real dinosaur skull!

They claim all the actual fossils are kept in high-security storage,
but only a select few paleontologists are ever allowed to examine them,
so the ability to ascertain their authenticity is kept from the general public.
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Oct 14, 2016 7:26 AM CST Dinosaurs Aren't Real
CrystalMethod
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mollybaby: There aren't even snakes here! The landbridge closed before they came over.

We have found little beyond the Mesolithic. Most finds would be from Neolithic onwards.



Can you contact the people of Valentia?

Ask them if the ones they have in display are copies or originals.
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