December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect ( Archived) (27)

Nov 11, 2016 7:02 AM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
You might want to wait until December 19th to celebrate. The "FAITHLESS ELECTOR" could still put Hillary in the white house.



"For die-hard Democrats holding out hope that they won’t have to live through a Trump presidency, there is a last, incredibly long shot for them latch on to — a surprise twist in the Electoral College.

Though Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 200,000, Trump has won the minimum of 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president. As of late Wednesday, he had 290 to Clinton’s 228.

Electoral College voter backs off threat of voting for Clinton

According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on Dec. 19 in their respective state capitals.

However, there is technically nothing stopping any of the electors from voting their conscience and refusing to support the candidate to whom they were bound, or from abstaining from voting altogether.

There’s even a name for it: becoming a “faithless elector.”

The idea of electors reversing their vote is rarely discussed — and was most recently bandied about after the incredibly close 2000 election in which George Bush narrowly beat Al Gore. And electors going “faithless” is exceedingly rare.

Well over 99 percent of electors throughout American history have voted as pledged, according to an analysis done by the New York Times.

It does happen, though.

The last faithless elector reared his roguish head back in 2004, when a lone anonymous voter in Minnesota declined to vote for Democrat John Kerry and instead voted for Kerry’s running mate, John Edwards.

The rogue’s vote was purely ceremonial, as Bush already had 286 electoral votes, more than enough to ensure his reelection.

Faithless electors are technically barred in only 29 states from ignoring the will of the voters, though the penalties are light. And a faithless elector has never swung an election.

But given the high dissatisfaction with Trump among Republicans, a few faithless GOP electors could well go rogue next month.

One Texas GOP elector, Chris Suprun of Texas, a firefighter, told Politico in August that he finds Trump so unpalatable he’d consider voting for Clinton when he gets to Georgia’s capital on Dec. 19th.

Baoky Vu, a Decatur businessman, told the Atlanta-based news site AJC.com in August that he couldn’t stomach voting for Trump either, and was quietly convinced by local GOP leaders to resign as an elector.

Clinton would need more than 20 GOP electors to go rogue and vote instead for her — a mighty tall order.

Even then, the new, Republican-controlled Congress meets Jan. 6 to approve the electoral college vote, and would certainly vote to void any roguery, handing the victory firmly back to Trump.

The Founding Fathers created the electoral college because the were “afraid of direct Democracy,” according to FactCheck.org.

In fact, Alexander Hamilton thought the electors would make sure “the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.”

It remains to be seen, given Tuesday’s surprise election result, whether Democrats — and even some Republicans — who question the “requisite qualifications” of president-elect Donald Trump will push to revisit the Electoral College system."


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Nov 11, 2016 12:24 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
Not only this Secret, but there are reports some states said they stopped counting votes after news media and Fox New called the win to Trump! Many military, mail-in and absentee ballots have yet to be counted in some states where it is said Trump won, but the votes were not counted after the call that Trump had won.

Yes, we know this is not fair and the media should not call the election until ALL the polls have been closed and at least 25% of the votes have been counted. But they're not going to tell us the truth anyway... there were those working in the e polls who wanted Trump to win and those for Clinton to win...and they are known to lie cheat and steal votes. Media was calling the win before a lot of states had closed their polls, this is not fair nor is it right, some media made calls when only 1% of the votes were in I watched Fox make calls for Trump when only 5% votes were in, well we all know Fox is in Trump's pocket.

Check this out... from The Aroizona Republic newspaper
Ballot-count update: More than 600,000 Arizona votes left to process


As of Wednesday evening, there were nearly 628,000 votes still to be processed statewide, with 470,000 of those in Maricopa County, officials said. Those outstanding votes will make it hard to finalize close races, including the one for Maricopa County recorder and some legislative districts.

Because many voters receive early ballots in the mail, the ballot count stretches beyond the first night. Many ballots returned early were counted by Tuesday night, but ballots dropped off in the final days are held to be counted after Election Day. About 2.1 million early ballots were mailed to voters statewide and 1.7 million were returned by Election Day, said Matt Roberts, spokesman for the Arizona Secretary of State's Office.

Most large counties, such as Maricopa and Pima, will begin counting early ballots again Thursday, after verifying voters' signatures on the envelopes. Provisional ballots must be verified, then counted, and it will be well into next week until those votes are tallied.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/08/arizona-election-results-2016-voting-updates/93289328/
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Nov 11, 2016 12:25 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
StarOfWars
StarOfWarsStarOfWarsSouth West, Cork Ireland377 Posts
Ha ha ha ha ha


The election is over



She lost


Ha ha ha ha
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Nov 11, 2016 12:28 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
good luck in finding this many Unfaithful Electors!laugh
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Nov 11, 2016 1:05 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
Conrad73: good luck in finding this many Unfaithful Electors!
thumbs up one thing that could possiblely happen is a recount, and God forbid there is a recalllscold professor rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 11, 2016 1:06 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
StarOfWars
StarOfWarsStarOfWarsSouth West, Cork Ireland377 Posts
SistaCallie: one thing that could possiblely happen is a recount, and God forbid there is a recalll


You sound pretty deluded. Hillary voter, previously for Bern Bro I assume?
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Nov 11, 2016 1:28 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
SistaCallie: one thing that could possiblely happen is a recount, and God forbid there is a recalll

you really need to study your Political System some!rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 11, 2016 1:57 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
We'd be able to feel America burning from across the ocean so no putting the heating on incredibly high this Christmas. Great stuff.
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Nov 11, 2016 2:16 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect

yep,Lady Gaga!
She is about as ignorant of the American System as one can get!laugh
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Nov 11, 2016 2:20 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
I don't believe it for a moment . You are clutching at straws , best that you can do is accept that Trumpys there for at least four years .
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Nov 11, 2016 2:21 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
StarOfWars
StarOfWarsStarOfWarsSouth West, Cork Ireland377 Posts
[quote=epirbShe will be either be pardoned or facing the judiciary by this time next year

I hope it's the latter. She needs to spend the rest of her miserable life in jail.

Trump can thank the DNC for putting forward the most corrupt candidate to ever stand for President against him
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Nov 11, 2016 2:22 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
Conrad73: you really need to study your Political System some!


Conrad, you and others need to know and understand the American political system. Obviously, you don't know that There is already a petition call for a recount going on FYI comfort handshake doh
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Nov 11, 2016 2:23 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect


Read the Comments on the Site!

laugh
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Nov 11, 2016 2:24 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
SistaCallie: Conrad, you and others need to know and understand the American political system. Obviously, you don't know that There is already a petition call for a recount going on FYI

Malarkey,Hillary conceded,end of the Story,finito,kaput,aus,fertig!laugh
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Nov 11, 2016 2:26 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
SistaCallie: one thing that could possiblely happen is a recount, and God forbid there is a recalll

RECALL?
WTH?
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Nov 11, 2016 2:41 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
Conrad73: http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/11/10/lady-gaga-petition-electoral-college-vote-clinton/

Read the Comments on the Site!


just as I thought, you don't have a balance of your news information... learn to check and balance from many news sources ,,, Breitbart news site is owned by the guy who is also Trump's campaign director... Plus, it only take ONE American citizen to get a petition going with signature, doesn't matter if lady Gaga or mr. Bob gets the petition going all is needed is a certain amount of signatures on the petition, and THERE WILL BE A RECOUNT!

Gaga is only one person in her Hollywood area who has a petition going, but there are California petitions going in every states where Trump had not been expected to win, but won too much over Clinton, Registrations are being checked, because it is said there were just too many registered people voting in certain areas where it never has been before.

I don't know about your country or others' countries, but here in America, we have the right to challenge our government and in such cases seek recounts and whatever. So think not that this is laughable,, because the recount petitions are for real. And this is not the first time such has happened in during presidential election or government elections.
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Nov 11, 2016 2:52 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
StarOfWars
StarOfWarsStarOfWarsSouth West, Cork Ireland377 Posts
SistaCallie: There is already a petition call for a recount going on FYI


You need to understand the words 'butthurt' and 'stupid'.

Overturn the result of a presidential election with a 'petition'?

What's your IQ?
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Nov 11, 2016 3:04 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
StarOfWars: You need to understand the words 'butthurt' and 'stupid'.

Overturn the result of a presidential election with a 'petition'?

What's your IQ?
thumbs up doh
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Nov 11, 2016 3:08 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
StarOfWars: You need to understand the words 'butthurt' and 'stupid'.

Overturn the result of a presidential election with a 'petition'?

What's your IQ?
I can picture a couple of grandmothers sitting at a little table outside a supermarket sharing a blanket over their wobbly arthritic knee's "would you like to sign our petition to change the President of the United States of America please "

yeah , fec it , works for me .grin
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Nov 11, 2016 3:14 PM CST December 19th - Another Chance For Hillary To Be The President-Elect
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
epirb: I don't believe it for a moment . You are clutching at straws , best that you can do is accept that Trumpys there for at least four years .



You and I never agree on anything but this time I do agree with you that it is clutching at straws to think that the Faithless Elector could get Hillary into the white house.

No matter how small the chance there is to accomplish it, even a small chance is still a chance.

This morning the average American didn't know that the Faithless Elector vote is in the Constitution.

Once it was made public people are getting on the bandwagon to make sure their state elector knows what they want.

My personal opinion is that I doubt it will happen.

Just imagine the threads on CS if it does laugh laugh
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