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Nov 20, 2016 11:33 AM CST Cryogenics .
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Kattte: An option could be to place the "material" in permanent frozen ground very north or very south and forget the cooling-freezing system.[/quote


The world's largest genetics lab is located just at the Arctic Circle at Spitsbergen, I believe. It took years with many Govt. helping to fund it. All grains and animal genetic material is stored there both as a record and as a 'last resort' re-population measure. No private clinic would have the moneys to bring the enormous amounts of equipment needed to break and dig into permanently frozen earth which would have to be either at the North Pole or South polar regions; massive mountains all over the southern pole area; forget the Himalayas...machinery can't climb and the Sherpas aren't interested in even trying to guide bulldozers etc. up their mountains and helicopters can't operate at their heights in blizzard conditions...may as well put remains into a rocket bound for Pluto once automated lab set ups are worked out and if the rockets could land on an ice world....they can't even yet land on Martian sand,,,
Have you found the science series, Through The Wormhole hosted by Morgan Freeman?? It's all so fascinating, I purchased the whole series...

Hi Kattte


Thank you for the reference about those science series I have had not the time to look for them, I might later on.


About the animal genetic material "storage" I do not know but I do know about Svalbard where lots of seeds are stored and preserved in the permafrost.


"The vault is located an extraordinary 120 metres (393.7 feet) into the rock, ensuring that the vault rooms will remain naturally frozen even in the event of failure of the mechanical cooling system and rising external air temperatures due to climate change.

HOW MUCH DID IT COST TO BUILD THE VAULT?

The Kingdom of Norway spent approximately US$9 million.

WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE VAULT?

The distance from the front door of the portal building to the back of the vault is approximately 145.9 metres (478.7 feet). The width of the each vault is approximately 9.5 to 10 metres (31.2 to 32.8 feet) and the height is 6 metres (19.7 feet). Each vault is approximately 27 metres (88.6 feet) long."


US $9 million is not too much to preserve "some people" and some might have way more than that count of resources.

Should the brains of some people be preserved ?
Who do you think should be preserved?


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Nov 20, 2016 3:36 PM CST Cryogenics .
Kattte
KattteKattteVancouver, British Columbia Canada759 Posts
lifeisadream: Hi Kattte


Thank you for the reference about those science series I have had not the time to look for them, I might later on.


About the animal genetic material "storage" I do not know but I do know about Svalbard where lots of seeds are stored and preserved in the permafrost.


"The vault is located an extraordinary 120 metres (393.7 feet) into the rock, ensuring that the vault rooms will remain naturally frozen even in the event of failure of the mechanical cooling system and rising external air temperatures due to climate change.

HOW MUCH DID IT COST TO BUILD THE VAULT?

The Kingdom of Norway spent approximately US$9 million.

WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE VAULT?

The distance from the front door of the portal building to the back of the vault is approximately 145.9 metres (478.7 feet). The width of the each vault is approximately 9.5 to 10 metres (31.2 to 32.8 feet) and the height is 6 metres (19.7 feet). Each vault is approximately 27 metres (88.6 feet) long."


US $9 million is not too much to preserve "some people" and some might have way more than that count of resources.

Should the brains of some people be preserved ?
Who do you think should be preserved?




The above you write about is the one at or near Spitzbergen archipelago, Norway.The cost of only 9 million US sounds far too cheap; have you tried to Google the costs of building the facility?????
This was set up in an old abandoned coal mine and only converted to the frozen seed bank between 2006-08.
The largest "frozen zoo" is at the San Diego Zoo Conservation facility; the Frozen Ark project is in England . So far only less than a dozen frozen genetic material places exist, mostly around Europe with one in Bahrain or the UAE for species indigenous to that area only.
Preserve brains only?? Only if virus free....can you imagine reviving a politicians brain...first thoughts/ words would be "Lie, steal, cheat..."rolling on the floor laughing No thanks.
Who should be preserved? for starters, an eclectic collection of artists, Historians and Scientists from different areas/ disciplines. No military, politicians, philosophers, financial types; perhaps some toy makers....that would mystify those in the far futurelaugh and throw in some cartoon shows; perhaps those in that far future will think that those things are actually us....home movies....rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 20, 2016 3:58 PM CST Cryogenics .
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Kattte: The above you write about is the one at or near Spitzbergen archipelago, Norway.The cost of only 9 million US sounds far too cheap; have you tried to Google the costs of building the facility?????
This was set up in an old abandoned coal mine and only converted to the frozen seed bank between 2006-08.
The largest "frozen zoo" is at the San Diego Zoo Conservation facility; the Frozen Ark project is in England . So far only less than a dozen frozen genetic material places exist, mostly around Europe with one in Bahrain or the UAE for species indigenous to that area only.
Preserve brains only?? Only if virus free....can you imagine reviving a politicians brain...first thoughts/ words would be "Lie, steal, cheat..." No thanks.
Who should be preserved? for starters, an eclectic collection of artists, Historians and Scientists from different areas/ disciplines. No military, politicians, philosophers, financial types; perhaps some toy makers....that would mystify those in the far future and throw in some cartoon shows; perhaps those in that far future will think that those things are actually us....home movies....

I have not idea what is the scope of the San Diego "frozen zoo".

Yet, 9 million dollar USA is rather affordable.
if there is one abandoned coal mine there might be another one cool

To preserve only virus free brains uh oh I doubt there is one brain with not a virus.

Philosophers not worth saving their brains? Like whose?

Definitely th e ones that make Lego toys should be preserved (their brains) very happy
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Nov 22, 2016 2:48 PM CST Cryogenics .
Bonkers_
Bonkers_Bonkers_Cap. Fed., Buenos Aires Argentina1 Threads 1 Polls 81 Posts
If this is a thread about the 14 yo girl from the UK who asked to be frozen so she can have a chance in the future then I think is very sad what happened to her but then again so its life. We can't all live. People die and that's just the way it is. Now imagine if everyone who is sick asks to be frozen next to Walt Disney or whatever.
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