The van Allen belt (95)
Last week, on a Moroccan afternoon TV show, the make-up tutorial focused on teaching women how to cover up the bruises their husbands gives them. Do they have these tutorial on TV in Canada ..... yet? Look at the face of the poor woman being 'covered up'. Her culture may tell her that women should be beaten regularly (soon ours too) but I think she has an idea something is wrong. Feminist outrage? Non-existent
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jt, your knowledge regarding science is severely limited. I surmise your childhood education was composed mostly of religious matters. It may help your understanding that, were it not for science, you wouldn't even know there are belts of radiation surrounding the earth. The Van Allen belts were discovered in early 1958. The belts were not created by any gods but it is the magnetic field of the earth which traps radiation thrown off by nuclear reactions deep within the Sun. As the radiation fluctuates there's more or less particles to attract so the belts get bigger and smaller. Nobody is throttling the belts in tune with the Suns output just like nobody is causing the tides to rise and fall.
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loulou77: Parents may not have liked the removal of Christian prayer from schools for example...there is so much diversity amongst us as a nation/country...we should not shove beliefs down every ones' throats...let the children decide when they are older...no pressure...respect for all...instill your faith at home...or go to a private school...
Hi Ken...
Hi Ken...
Diversity in society should mean accepting everyone as he is, it means balance and tolerance...
Why you , local people scrap your traditions but allow others to push down your throat theirs?
You even have reporters broadcasting in hijabs on TV...
What a nonsense...
The difference between Christians and Muslims is that Christians are ready to deny their religion easily, so they don't hurt anybody's feelings but a Muslim will never, ever do that and and will teach his children the same...
That's for your "diversity"...
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StarOfWars: Last week, on a Moroccan afternoon TV show, the make-up tutorial focused on teaching women how to cover up the bruises their husbands gives them. Do they have these tutorial on TV in Canada ..... yet? Look at the face of the poor woman being 'covered up'. Her culture may tell her that women should be beaten regularly (soon ours too) but I think she has an idea something is wrong. Feminist outrage? Non-existent
The smile on the other woman's face is chilling...
She seems so happy of what she is doing, masking the signs of a crime...sickening...
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JT Waving Darwin & Einstein's religious upbringings mmeans nothing.
Darwin was a product of his time and living in an environment where saying anythimg else would be suicidal in several ways. Further his book is a theory, printed for consideration. That hundreds of years later it is still not disproven has nothing at all to do with his choice to have a religion back then. If he had access to today's data in a more open society his public opinion may not be the same.
Again, Einstein,, raised inn the Hebrew faith, was told at an early age the scrolls were truth. Much of what we know today was simply not known when Einstein was alive. Noting his faith was such that when Manhattan was split into two teams, one dealing with fission and one with Fusion his religious faith precluded his working on things of quantum mechanics, believing it was a dead end and claiming God doesn't roll dice with the Universe. Of course he was wrong about things quantum. Schrodinger's cat will always be dead alive and in between forever. We are a lot further along today Hadrons and all that, so if he could see that he would probably rethink a lot of things. One fact he would probably acknowledge today is the rolling of the dice requires no big g God. It is just how things work. Randomly in a probability sequence.
Darwin was a product of his time and living in an environment where saying anythimg else would be suicidal in several ways. Further his book is a theory, printed for consideration. That hundreds of years later it is still not disproven has nothing at all to do with his choice to have a religion back then. If he had access to today's data in a more open society his public opinion may not be the same.
Again, Einstein,, raised inn the Hebrew faith, was told at an early age the scrolls were truth. Much of what we know today was simply not known when Einstein was alive. Noting his faith was such that when Manhattan was split into two teams, one dealing with fission and one with Fusion his religious faith precluded his working on things of quantum mechanics, believing it was a dead end and claiming God doesn't roll dice with the Universe. Of course he was wrong about things quantum. Schrodinger's cat will always be dead alive and in between forever. We are a lot further along today Hadrons and all that, so if he could see that he would probably rethink a lot of things. One fact he would probably acknowledge today is the rolling of the dice requires no big g God. It is just how things work. Randomly in a probability sequence.
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JT Waving Darwin & Einstein's religious upbringings mmeans nothing.
Darwin was a product of his time and living in an environment where saying anythimg else would be suicidal in several ways. Further his book is a theory, printed for consideration. That hundreds of years later it is still not disproven has nothing at all to do with his choice to have a religion back then. If he had access to today's data in a more open society his public opinion may not be the same.
Again, Einstein,, raised inn the Hebrew faith, was told at an early age the scrolls were truth. Much of what we know today was simply not known when Einstein was alive. Noting his faith was such that when Manhattan was split into two teams, one dealing with fission and one with Fusion his religious faith precluded his working on things of quantum mechanics, believing it was a dead end and claiming God doesn't roll dice with the Universe. Of course he was wrong about things quantum. Schrodinger's cat will always be dead alive and in between forever. We are a lot further along today Hadrons and all that, so if he could see that he would probably rethink a lot of things. One fact he would probably acknowledge today is the rolling of the dice requires no big g God. It is just how things work. Randomly in a probability sequence.
Darwin was a product of his time and living in an environment where saying anythimg else would be suicidal in several ways. Further his book is a theory, printed for consideration. That hundreds of years later it is still not disproven has nothing at all to do with his choice to have a religion back then. If he had access to today's data in a more open society his public opinion may not be the same.
Again, Einstein,, raised inn the Hebrew faith, was told at an early age the scrolls were truth. Much of what we know today was simply not known when Einstein was alive. Noting his faith was such that when Manhattan was split into two teams, one dealing with fission and one with Fusion his religious faith precluded his working on things of quantum mechanics, believing it was a dead end and claiming God doesn't roll dice with the Universe. Of course he was wrong about things quantum. Schrodinger's cat will always be dead alive and in between forever. We are a lot further along today Hadrons and all that, so if he could see that he would probably rethink a lot of things. One fact he would probably acknowledge today is the rolling of the dice requires no big g God. It is just how things work. Randomly in a probability sequence.
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"It appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against christianity and theism produce hardly any effect on the public; and freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds which follows from the advance of science." (Darwin)
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." (Voltaire)
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." (Einstein)
"Faith means not wanting to know what is true." (Nietzsche)
"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life – our desire to go on living … our dread of coming to an end." (Edison)
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." (Lincoln)
"Religion is a byproduct of fear. For much of human history, it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary? Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity?" (Arthur C. Clarke)
"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies." (Thomas Jefferson)
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." (Kurt Vonnegut)
"Religion is based . . . mainly on fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race." (Bertrand Russell)
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." (Voltaire)
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." (Einstein)
"Faith means not wanting to know what is true." (Nietzsche)
"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life – our desire to go on living … our dread of coming to an end." (Edison)
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." (Lincoln)
"Religion is a byproduct of fear. For much of human history, it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary? Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity?" (Arthur C. Clarke)
"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies." (Thomas Jefferson)
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." (Kurt Vonnegut)
"Religion is based . . . mainly on fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race." (Bertrand Russell)
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ooby_dooby: jt, your knowledge regarding science is severely limited. I surmise your childhood education was composed mostly of religious matters. It may help your understanding that, were it not for science, you wouldn't even know there are belts of radiation surrounding the earth. The Van Allen belts were discovered in early 1958. The belts were not created by any gods but it is the magnetic field of the earth which traps radiation thrown off by nuclear reactions deep within the Sun. As the radiation fluctuates there's more or less particles to attract so the belts get bigger and smaller. Nobody is throttling the belts in tune with the Suns output just like nobody is causing the tides to rise and fall.
What an ignorant comment, couldn't expect
Anything more from a Hilary sheep
You're a scientist are you? The people that
Studied this belt are still scratching their heads
As to why it adapts. I'm sure they scratched
Your theory off their list before the concluded
It's illogical what's happening with it
I'll mail them and ask them to ring you
On the low down on it
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ooby_dooby: "It appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against christianity and theism produce hardly any effect on the public; and freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds which follows from the advance of science." (Darwin)
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." (Voltaire)
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.(???)" (Lincoln)
"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies." (Thomas Jefferson)
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." (Kurt Vonnegut)
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." (Voltaire)
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.(???)" (Lincoln)
"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies." (Thomas Jefferson)
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." (Kurt Vonnegut)
Religions are NOT ALL alike !!!
Unlike the Quran - you do not see Christians killing people for not worshiping their religion... Unlike Islam -you do not see Christians executing gays by law.You do not see Christians Priest preaching that other religions must be dealt with.
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Whisper what I posted were quotes from famous people. I did that to counter the lie that Einstein and Darwin were believers, they weren't. I totally agree with you that Islam is not a religion of peace as I pointed out in a thread I created back in 2015 ref here:
BTW jt, scientists generally don't get "flabbergasted", only ignorant and fearful people do.
BTW jt, scientists generally don't get "flabbergasted", only ignorant and fearful people do.
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ooby_dooby: Whisper what I posted were quotes from famous people. I did that to counter the lie that Einstein and Darwin were believers, they weren't. I totally agree with you that Islam is not a religion of peace as I pointed out in a thread I created back in 2015 ref here:
BTW jt, scientists generally don't get "flabbergasted", only ignorant and fearful people do.
BTW jt, scientists generally don't get "flabbergasted", only ignorant and fearful people do.
Well I'd say a for a prominent atheist to admit
There had to be a intelligent creator after his
Great discovery must've been flabbergasted
Enough to admit it....
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ooby_dooby: Whisper what I posted were quotes from famous people. I did that to counter the lie that Einstein and Darwin were believers, they weren't. I totally agree with you that Islam is not a religion of peace as I pointed out in a thread I created back in 2015 ref here:
BTW jt, scientists generally don't get "flabbergasted", only ignorant and fearful people do.
Thank you for extra explanation.BTW jt, scientists generally don't get "flabbergasted", only ignorant and fearful people do.
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123whisper: Religions are NOT ALL alike !!!
Unlike the Quran - you do not see Christians killing people for not worshiping their religion... Unlike Islam -you do not see Christians executing gays by law.You do not see Christians Priest preaching that other religions must be dealt with.
Unlike the Quran - you do not see Christians killing people for not worshiping their religion... Unlike Islam -you do not see Christians executing gays by law.You do not see Christians Priest preaching that other religions must be dealt with.
And of course if we go back and look properly ... 'Christians' ie the actual people who followed Christ and his teachings were completely conned when they 'fell for' the offer made by the Romans to make Christianity "The Official Religion of The Roman Empire" and Roman Catholicism was born...
Note please 'Roman Catholicism"
Roman ... pertaining to the empire and people of Rome
Catholic ... in context means 'universal' you see, not even a MENTION of Christ or Christianity in the name of the new organisation and of course, most of the public holidays and celebrations continued be those related to the Roman and other pagan gods and goddesses and pagan festivals!
In short it was a ploy that's still used every day by the jolly old CIA ( Infiltrate, double-cross and destroy from within )
Certainly (IMHO) there's a Higher Power / Universal Intelligence / God ... by whatever name... but they must cringe deeply when they see the horrors that humans commit 'In the name of God ...'
Just as well that forgiveness is divine eh ?
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123whisper: Religions are NOT ALL alike !!!
Unlike the Quran - you do not see Christians killing people for not worshiping their religion... Unlike Islam -you do not see Christians executing gays by law.You do not see Christians Priest preaching that other religions must be dealt with.
Unlike the Quran - you do not see Christians killing people for not worshiping their religion... Unlike Islam -you do not see Christians executing gays by law.You do not see Christians Priest preaching that other religions must be dealt with.
well...put in equasion that islam was founded the whole 6 centuries later. guess christians did their thingies 6 centuries ago. and i am quite positive that many of them just loved the freedom given by Deuteronomy inspite of what part of the book it occupied exactly
abt the belt...well how unique is it actually? dont all planets with magnetic field have it/them?
seems to me that some logic here is reversed: it is not the belt that is a miracle being what it is protecting Earth but it is the Earth who profits by such fortunate situation. things dont happen out of a mere chance (even it may seem so) but out of close to infinite combinations of possibilities,trials and errors and other relevant parts of a recipee that create a soup.
but thats just my opinion...
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