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Feb 1, 2017 12:59 AM CST Childcare
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
I don't understand why it's expected, in this country, that our government should substantially subsidise the cost of childcare for working parents confused

Many complain that what they do get is not enough - the cost of having their babies/young children cared for outweighs the wages they earn conversing


So why do they not stay home and care for their children themselves, am I missing something here confused

I have to assume their incomes are not stellar but perhaps they don't find child-raising rewarding, is that it dunno
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Feb 1, 2017 1:19 AM CST Childcare
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
Its a tough one Serene. On the one hand its good to have equality and social equity, but for a small business its difficult to operate with staff off on maternity leave etc., then you have to hold their job open for them if they choose to return. By which time you've already employed somebody else to do the job, then mostly the young mums want to return part time or casual when it suits them. It would be a consideration for any company to employ a child-bearing age woman, but at the same time nobody wants to discriminate.

I guess a lot of parents would see their work as more important or rewarding than child minding, the same way a lot of people see lawn mowing as a job beneath them or too much hassle etc., and pay somebody else to do it. Maybe it would be more appropriate for it to be like a hecs debt, you have to repay it. They're already doing it here in Queensland with Tafe and vocational training scams.

And lets face it, it would be a brave politician that suggested taking a look at making it user-pays only.
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Feb 1, 2017 1:37 AM CST Childcare
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
Thanks Pat wave


I'm sure there is more to it than I'm aware of, but in simple terms, if I were earning say $1000 for a 5 day working week and had to pay $150-200 a day for childcare I'd not bother.


On the other hand, if I had a great job and was pulling in big bucks I'd expect to pay for that service myself, yet I see that those earning up to $185,000 pa may qualify for assistance confused
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Feb 1, 2017 3:14 AM CST Childcare
Suspenders
SuspendersSuspendersSomewhere, Buenos Aires Argentina1 Threads 75 Posts
Perhaps the answer to this question is much easier than it seems.
People wanna have it all period. They want to have babies but are always looking for someone to help them. Help me. Help me. Give me. Give me. They beg for stuff but they all have a gigantic tv set, the latest videogame, the latest smartphone, etc.
Of course its easier to beg to get things for free and then give yourself a great life with what you save. Our grandparents were never asking for charity yet this young generation of so called parents are alway demanding help from the goverment. Its easy, If you cant afford kids then dont have them or have only one.
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Feb 1, 2017 3:31 AM CST Childcare
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
serene56: I don't understand why it's expected, in this country, that our government should substantially subsidise the cost of childcare for working parents

Many complain that what they do get is not enough - the cost of having their babies/young children cared for outweighs the wages they earn


So why do they not stay home and care for their children themselves, am I missing something here

I have to assume their incomes are not stellar but perhaps they don't find child-raising rewarding, is that it


Sadly in MOST 'western economies' the fopcus long ago moved from 'people' to capital

The intelligent thing would be to have mum (or dad) stay home and raise their own kids, social them through coffee morning and play dates etc

IMHO it's crass stupidity to force people to put kids into Industrial Grade Care ...

doh
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Feb 1, 2017 3:37 AM CST Childcare
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
In this country, 2 salaries are generally needed to pay the mortgages, to even get a mortgage in the first place.
Therefore, both parents have to work, even if they would prefer to stay home with their children.
However, childcare costs are exorbitant, so a lot of one salary goes directly to that.
It's a lose lose situation really.
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Feb 1, 2017 3:39 AM CST Childcare
Suspenders
SuspendersSuspendersSomewhere, Buenos Aires Argentina1 Threads 75 Posts
HexagonKeySet: The intelligent thing would be to have mum (or dad) stay home and raise their own kids, ...


Now here is a question i always wanted to ask a guy:

If ur wife made more money than you, lets say she is a successful lawyer or whatever. Would you be willing to be a stay at home dad?

( without the help of grandparents or babysitters, nothing just u and the kids)
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Feb 1, 2017 3:58 AM CST Childcare
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Suspenders: Now here is a question i always wanted to ask a guy:

If ur wife made more money than you, lets say she is a successful lawyer or whatever. Would you be willing to be a stay at home dad?

( without the help of grandparents or babysitters, nothing just u and the kids)


Personally I'd be OK with that scenario and it's one I thought through in advance in case life worked that way in a second mariage ( committed relationship) The 'hard part' for a guy always SEEMS to be having any sort of a social life while he's home and the wife is at work ... it's obviously unwise/risky for him to be socialising amongst a group of young mums for the obvious reasons of putting self in way of temptation / being a temptation to others etc

During my own marriage we both worked in own business and both shared both roles, as well as 'the domestics' .

But then I was raised by both parents to be capable, independent, take care of myself ... easy things like washing veg at 5 or 6, then peeling veg and knife skills when I was a little older and using the stove n grill by about 11 ish.

My own lads were raised same ... as single adults none of us have any problem feeding or housekeeping.

Your brackets might be a tad unrealistic though, most women in a r/ship have SOME support !
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