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Mar 1, 2017 9:41 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
"Merkel's cabinet approves faster migrant deportations
The German cabinet has passed a slew of measures aimed at streamlining the deportation process. The phones of asylum-seekers will be searched, while rejected people will likely be kept in custody longer."

Published Feb. 22, 2017



"Regretting something, Angela? Germany's Merkel announces plan to deport 100,000 migrants

ANGELA MERKEL today announced plans to deport 100,000 migrants who arrived in Germany last year as she continues to backtrack on her controversial open door asylum policy."

By NICK GUTTERIDGE
PUBLISHED: 04:31, Sun, Nov 27, 2016 | UPDATED: 11:16, Sun, Nov 27, 2016

What a change of tide. .what a change...
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Mar 1, 2017 9:43 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
lindsyjones: "Merkel's cabinet approves faster migrant deportations
The German cabinet has passed a slew of measures aimed at streamlining the deportation process. The phones of asylum-seekers will be searched, while rejected people will likely be kept in custody longer."

Published Feb. 22, 2017



"Regretting something, Angela? Germany's Merkel announces plan to deport 100,000 migrants

ANGELA MERKEL today announced plans to deport 100,000 migrants who arrived in Germany last year as she continues to backtrack on her controversial open door asylum policy."

By NICK GUTTERIDGE
PUBLISHED: 04:31, Sun, Nov 27, 2016 | UPDATED: 11:16, Sun, Nov 27, 2016

What a change of tide. .what a change...


All too little too late, but she has to do something to try and keep her job!!
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Mar 1, 2017 9:47 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
rizlared: All too little too late, but she has to do something to try and keep her job!!


What worries me is her lack of insight when she made the decision to welcome them. I couldn't believe then, and still I can't understand her position even today.

If it were me she'd have been bulldozed out of the office as she's one incompetent person undeserving to lead.
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Mar 1, 2017 9:54 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
lindsyjones: What worries me is her lack of insight when she made the decision to welcome them. I couldn't believe then, and still I can't understand her position even today.

If it were me she'd have been bulldozed out of the office as she's one incompetent person undeserving to lead.


Completely agree, but she won the people over with all her promises, and it was too late by the time they realised what the real plan was to be.
In her defence, she was a very strong and powerful leader, and has done some great things, for both Germany and Europe, but the cost of those achievements was too great and resulted in the cracks that are now making the EU fall apart.
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Mar 1, 2017 10:31 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
rizlared: If you are talking about the speech made several years ago, then I think he made a good point, he never said anything bad against Muslims, he said they would not be made welcome and would not like living in his country. If memory serves.

There are many Muslims in Italy, I taught a Muslim air force officer when I was living there, they are living with and mixing with local Christians , with little to suggest they are all terrorists, which is what needs to be separated.
Not all Muslims are terrorists, to say otherwise is like saying all Republicans love and admire Trump.


Rizla, his latest is published in 3/5/2016
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Mar 1, 2017 10:33 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
lindsyjones: Rizla, his latest is published in 3/5/2016


And this one.


Published on Dec 1, 2016
Hungary's Prime Minister is fed up with Muslim Migrants destroying his country, vows to send every one of them back to their country of origin.
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Mar 1, 2017 10:34 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
Hello Lindsay I think Angela Merkels [not really thought out plan] was, that since Germany is so low on youth and children, she would help the situation , as in allow refugees in.....

The situation quickly escalated out of control as did rioting and other antisocial activities.

I do believe like the previous blogger wrote ~ that there are many moderate intelligent Muslims who integrate and are lovely people and not all are alike.

However, Mohammed did say in his writings, that he wanted Mecca to be a place where no trees were allowed to grow.... they spoilt the air, the atmostphere. He also said Dogs were extremely infectious and dirty animals.

From somebody whose words came from God [being a great Prophet,] anyone on the street knows, without Trees we don't have OXygen, and they are badly needed, imagine a world without trees? and the Dog theory is not true either.

But small countries like mine, especially my City and the county area in which I live, near to the capital in Ireland, has become so overrun, swamped, that it is possible to sit on the light rail, and to be the only Irish person on the small carriage... this is not healthy, and you cannot blame me for feeling my Country has been ruined when most are on welfare, and I have to wait 3 years for an operation having paid taxes all my life. hug
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Mar 1, 2017 10:45 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
goldengloss: Hello Lindsay I think Angela Merkels [not really thought out plan] was, that since Germany is so low on youth and children, she would help the situation , as in allow refugees in.....

The situation quickly escalated out of control as did rioting and other antisocial activities.

I do believe like the previous blogger wrote ~ that there are many moderate intelligent Muslims who integrate and are lovely people and not all are alike.

However, Mohammed did say in his writings, that he wanted Mecca to be a place where no trees were allowed to grow.... they spoilt the air, the atmostphere. He also said Dogs were extremely infectious and dirty animals.

From somebody whose words came from God [being a great Prophet,] anyone on the street knows, without Trees we don't have OXygen, and they are badly needed, imagine a world without trees? and the Dog theory is not true either.

But small countries like mine, especially my City and the county area in which I live, near to the capital in Ireland, has become so overrun, swamped, that it is possible to sit on the light rail, and to be the only Irish person on the small carriage... this is not healthy, and you cannot blame me for feeling my Country has been ruined when most are on welfare, and I have to wait 3 years for an operation having paid taxes all my life.



It was the speculation of most of the posters on my thread then GG, that she originally thought that was a good idea to offset her lack of possible man power to hire for jobs that are available, but for heaven sake, why resort to such a ridiculous measure as she did without truly thinking of the negative impact these people make?

Let us assume for one second that it fed and fulfilled her motives. didn't she learn that the culture and or values of these people are as stern as their stubborness to lack the willingness to compromise?

Was she that ignorant of what the values and ways of life of these people?

Isn't that the biggest root of the problem right now?

Because they are not actually migrant GG. They are more in the function to fulfill the goal of their muhammad, and that is to calipate.

Imagine your experience of having these people have the audacity to remove the crucifix that represent your faith as an Irish Catholic?

I would be so mad if they do that to my country, to oppose for the lighting and or decvorating the tree as a token of my faith that I believe in Jesus.

It is wrong.
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Mar 1, 2017 11:22 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
Merkel's intentions were honorable even though she obviously didn't foresee the downside of her actions. She wanted to add new young blood to an aging population, with an unsustainable quality of life as more and more people went from being producers to consumers.

She saw the refugee crisis as a blessing to the German economy as most of the people fleeing Syria were younger and more vibrant. Her intention was good but her execution was amateur at best. She couldn't see the forest for the trees.
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Mar 1, 2017 11:32 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
ooby_dooby: Merkel's intentions were honorable even though she obviously didn't foresee the downside of her actions. She wanted to add new young blood to an aging population, with an unsustainable quality of life as more and more people went from being producers to consumers.

She saw the refugee crisis as a blessing to the German economy as most of the people fleeing Syria were younger and more vibrant. Her intention was good but her execution was amateur at best. She couldn't see the forest for the trees.


That's exactly what I have been saying.

She'd have been better off by giving a reward to her youth to have babies. Wait 20 years voila, she's set up for the future.
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Mar 1, 2017 11:40 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
ooby_dooby: Merkel's intentions were honorable even though she obviously didn't foresee the downside of her actions. She wanted to add new young blood to an aging population, with an unsustainable quality of life as more and more people went from being producers to consumers.

She saw the refugee crisis as a blessing to the German economy as most of the people fleeing Syria were younger and more vibrant. Her intention was good but her execution was amateur at best. She couldn't see the forest for the trees.


We can all see the mistake, as no doubt she can see herself now, but true refugees ??? she got more than that every body around the world who wanted better living piled in, trafficers were made rich, other countries borders had to close with such an influx of people.

Remember most of these people are a lot worse off than us and now they have closed borders there dreams smashed.

What do we do just call Merkel and not have solutions for the poor people whom countries cannot suport their own let alone thousands of poor people.

It is sad very sad I feelmoping
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Mar 1, 2017 11:47 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
Redex: We can all see the mistake, as no doubt she can see herself now, but true refugees ??? she got more than that every body around the world who wanted better living piled in, trafficers were made rich, other countries borders had to close with such an influx of people.

Remember most of these people are a lot worse off than us and now they have closed borders there dreams smashed.

What do we do just call Merkel and not have solutions for the poor people whom countries cannot suport their own let alone thousands of poor people.

It is sad very sad I feel


I hear you Red, there's a 76 percent of the world in poverty according to the UN. Trump last night announced there's 40 percent Americans living in poverty, which us very scary considering we have the biggest percentage of the world's billionaires and millionaires.

My point is, there's poor everywhere but the true refugees6, dislodged and misplaced should be priorities.
Obama forked out 4.1 billion dollars where did it go?

Why not finish the damn war, let them go back to their country?
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Mar 1, 2017 1:50 PM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Immigration laws have their methods in itself. If one hasn't the conditions one can be deported.

It only is the result of law enforcement.
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Mar 1, 2017 1:58 PM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
Lindsay and others on this Blog ~ I actually liked Angela Merkel, unlike many of her comtemporaries in Govt. she lived a v modest lifestyle but what we all know is, Germany now has an ageing population, still, Lindsay, you are right to ask, why oh why did she let all these people in, I am not running any country and I knew it would be trouble... mostly men, I knew that there wouldnot be integration, or a great deal of thanks for bringing them in.

I feel that we cannot throw thousands out of here, they are settled now, going to school, but in a few years with the large families and lack of birth control they will be in the majority. This if frightening, I don't want to sound like a National front yobbo. As I said before, I have moderate, Muslim friends who work, who are decent, but these gangs who scale walls with electrcic fences and throw back food because it isnot Halal, demanding this and that, have no gratitude and pose a genuine danger to our society. sad flower I wish I could leave Europe. I no longer feel safe.
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Mar 1, 2017 3:02 PM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
yubba
yubbayubbaCaspe, Aragon Spain11 Threads 1,962 Posts
lindsyjones: "Merkel's cabinet approves faster migrant deportations
The German cabinet has passed a slew of measures aimed at streamlining the deportation process. The phones of asylum-seekers will be searched, while rejected people will likely be kept in custody longer."

Published Feb. 22, 2017



"Regretting something, Angela? Germany's Merkel announces plan to deport 100,000 migrants

ANGELA MERKEL today announced plans to deport 100,000 migrants who arrived in Germany last year as she continues to backtrack on her controversial open door asylum policy."

By NICK GUTTERIDGE
PUBLISHED: 04:31, Sun, Nov 27, 2016 | UPDATED: 11:16, Sun, Nov 27, 2016

What a change of tide. .what a change...


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It was never Angela Merkel's idea to bring immigrants to Germany, it was the EU President Jean-Claude Junckers that talked her in to it because his country Luxembourg would not handle so many and Belgium/France already had enough, Holland could take no more and the UK would have laughed in his face. So he spoke to Chancellor Merkel.
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Mar 1, 2017 5:27 PM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
goldengloss: Lindsay and others on this Blog ~ I actually liked Angela Merkel, unlike many of her comtemporaries in Govt. she lived a v modest lifestyle but what we all know is, Germany now has an ageing population, still, Lindsay, you are right to ask, why oh why did she let all these people in, I am not running any country and I knew it would be trouble... mostly men, I knew that there wouldnot be integration, or a great deal of thanks for bringing them in.

I feel that we cannot throw thousands out of here, they are settled now, going to school, but in a few years with the large families and lack of birth control they will be in the majority. This if frightening, I don't want to sound like a National front yobbo. As I said before, I have moderate, Muslim friends who work, who are decent, but these gangs who scale walls with electrcic fences and throw back food because it isnot Halal, demanding this and that, have no gratitude and pose a genuine danger to our society. I wish I could leave Europe. I no longer feel safe.


That's the great lesson my country will have to heed GG, hence the ban.
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Mar 1, 2017 5:29 PM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
yubba: .
It was never Angela Merkel's idea to bring immigrants to Germany, it was the EU President Jean-Claude Junckers that talked her in to it because his country Luxembourg would not handle so many and Belgium/France already had enough, Holland could take no more and the UK would have laughed in his face. So he spoke to Chancellor Merkel.

That's a very childish and contemptible act if you ask me6, to make her do that just so he's spared the total blame if stupidity.

But Merkel bought it that makes her even more stupid.
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Mar 2, 2017 5:21 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
doh I have heard all that is bad in Merkels descions BUT nothing on how this error can be put right. Bearing in mind the people who are true refugees how do they feel. Poor souls.

Where are these people going to be deported too? How many children are involved, all this bad happenings for them starts the minds of terroists for seeing their parents die and other bad happenings.

Has empathy gone from folk. moping
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Mar 2, 2017 8:03 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
After the War, Ireland took in many many Jewish refugees, It was before I was born, but Ireland was a particularly poor Country, Still, we took them in. There were no computers, everything was written, no mobiles..just phone calls, Boats. [they didnot come on planes]. Genuine refugess that we couldnot afford.

They were adopted by many families throughout Ireland, and came to live in various parts of Dublin and Cork in particular, They learnt to speak our language and lived close to their Synagogues . There was NO trouble.

They had been through hell, absolutel hell. Malnourished children, women who would never be the same again after what they saw, and indeed men/women who had been used as guinea pigs for Mengles and other horrific medical experimentations.

The point I am making is, The Jewish people were grateful. They quickly started out,many lived on South circular Road beside the Synagogue, they pushed carts and sold buttons, matches. these were people who had been welle educated, many were musicians, accomplished and held professions. But they worked their way up, and today , they have fully integrated with our Society.

The attitude is completely different. Some have become moderate Jews, or progressive and married 'out' ,, some are still Orthodox and we love all their lovely Kosher bakeries and they are famous for their jewellry shops and nowadays most of their children are professors of medicine. They had a completely different attitude, a quiet dignity, a respect for our country being Christian which is so much against their own teachings... they didnot try and convert others to their faith, nor did they push and shove for Kosher food to be mandatory in schools.

that is the difference between genuine refugees, and what is happening now.

Sorry this is so long. BUt, Iknow alot of jewish people, have met elderly people who were through the camps,and it is wonderful to see how Ireland helped them, how they blossomed in a Christian country.
It can be done, but not when there is an Agenda.sad flower
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Mar 2, 2017 8:23 AM CST Finally, Deportation of migrants
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
lindsyjones: "Merkel's cabinet approves faster migrant deportations
The German cabinet has passed a slew of measures aimed at streamlining the deportation process. The phones of asylum-seekers will be searched, while rejected people will likely be kept in custody longer."

Published Feb. 22, 2017



"Regretting something, Angela? Germany's Merkel announces plan to deport 100,000 migrants

ANGELA MERKEL today announced plans to deport 100,000 migrants who arrived in Germany last year as she continues to backtrack on her controversial open door asylum policy."

By NICK GUTTERIDGE
PUBLISHED: 04:31, Sun, Nov 27, 2016 | UPDATED: 11:16, Sun, Nov 27, 2016

What a change of tide. .what a change...

She has elections in 7 months time. So those 100,000 might be only just few thousands,much-much less
the 100,000 she claims.-
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