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Apr 28, 2017 4:38 AM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
SistaCallie
SistaCallieSistaCalliePokemon, Texas USA139 Threads 1 Polls 795 Posts
Why Is Trump Risking a Trade War With Canada?
The president has softened some of his tough talk toward China and Mexico, transferring it to Canada and disputes over softwood lumber and dairy products.
Carlos Barria / Reuters
DAVID A. GRAHAM APR 26, 2017 GLOBAL- Atlantic


Donald Trump is not the first U.S. president to tangle with Canada over lumber. In fact, the first U.S. president to do so was the first U.S. president. George Washington’s administration saw a dispute over ownership of valuable forests on the border between New Brunswick and present-day Maine.

So despite Trump’s recent tough talk about the trade relationship with America’s neighbor to the north, his announcement Tuesday morning of new tariffs on Canadian lumber is actually consistent with what U.S. policy has been for decades. Where Trump differs from previous presidents, though, is in very publicly sounding off about a longstanding disagreement. In so doing he has also, apparently, found a new target for his trade-related ire, even as he softens his stances toward previous targets like China and Mexico.

“We’re going to be putting a 20 percent tax on softwood lumber coming in—tariff on softwood coming into the United States from Canada,” Trump said Tuesday morning. Actually, the Commerce Department is levying tariffs on a range of Canadian lumber companies, with the average coming to around 20 percent.

It’s not just wood that’s at issue. Tuesday morning, Trump tweeted:

TRUMP'S TWEET
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
Canada has made business for our dairy farmers in Wisconsin and other border states very difficult. We will not stand for this. Watch!
7:30 AM - 25 Apr 2017


He’d previously complained about the dairy issue during an appearance in Wisconsin. Also Tuesday, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross issued a statement attacking Canada:

It has been a bad week for U.S.-Canada trade relations. Last Monday, it became apparent that Canada intends to effectively cut off the last dairy products being exported from the United States. Today, in a different matter, the Department of Commerce determined a need to impose countervailing duties of roughly one billion dollars on Canadian softwood lumber exports to us. This is not our idea of a properly functioning Free Trade Agreement.
Both the lumber and dairy issues are enduring matters of dispute between the U.S. and Canada, though for slightly different reasons.

The Canadian lumber industry functions differently from that of the United States. In the U.S., most logging is done by private companies on privately owned land. The Canadian timber industry operates largely on public lands, with companies paying a fee to harvest. U.S. logging companies charge that this constitutes an unfair government subsidy, allowing Canadian producers to flood the American market with cheaply produced softwood (from fir, spruce, pine, and other coniferous trees).

Every few years this dispute flares up, and then the Canadian and U.S. governments reach an agreement—often under pressure from American builders, who are upset about paying higher costs for wood—that sets some sort of quota on imports to the U.S. to appease all parties. The latest agreement, signed in 2006, expired in 2015, leading inexorably to Tuesday’s declaration. Bloomberg reported that some Canadian lumber officials, while disputing the U.S. charges, actually viewed the tariffs as less onerous than might have been expected.

“This is so predictable,” says Laura Dawson, director of the Canada Institute at the Wilson Center. “It’s like the Mayan calendar: 100 years of good harvest and then 10 years of chaos and darkness.”
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Apr 28, 2017 5:48 AM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
TDS?uh oh
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Apr 28, 2017 6:20 AM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Apr 28, 2017 7:15 AM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
SistaCallie: Why Is Trump Risking a Trade War With Canada?
The president has softened some of his tough talk toward China and Mexico, transferring it to Canada and disputes over softwood lumber and dairy products.
Carlos Barria / Reuters
DAVID A. GRAHAM APR 26, 2017 GLOBAL- Atlantic

Donald Trump is not the first U.S. president to tangle with Canada over lumber. In fact, the first U.S. president to do so was the first U.S. president. George Washington’s administration saw a dispute over ownership of valuable forests on the border between New Brunswick and present-day Maine.

So despite Trump’s recent tough talk about the trade relationship with America’s neighbor to the north, his announcement Tuesday morning of new tariffs on Canadian lumber is actually consistent with what U.S. policy has been for decades. Where Trump differs from previous presidents, though, is in very publicly sounding off about a longstanding disagreement. In so doing he has also, apparently, found a new target for his trade-related ire, even as he softens his stances toward previous targets like China and Mexico.

“We’re going to be putting a 20 percent tax on softwood lumber coming in—tariff on softwood coming into the United States from Canada,” Trump said Tuesday morning. Actually, the Commerce Department is levying tariffs on a range of Canadian lumber companies, with the average coming to around 20 percent.

It’s not just wood that’s at issue. Tuesday morning, Trump tweeted:

TRUMP'S TWEET
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
Canada has made business for our dairy farmers in Wisconsin and other border states very difficult. We will not stand for this. Watch!
7:30 AM - 25 Apr 2017

He’d previously complained about the dairy issue during an appearance in Wisconsin. Also Tuesday, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross issued a statement attacking Canada:

It has been a bad week for U.S.-Canada trade relations. Last Monday, it became apparent that Canada intends to effectively cut off the last dairy products being exported from the United States. Today, in a different matter, the Department of Commerce determined a need to impose countervailing duties of roughly one billion dollars on Canadian softwood lumber exports to us. This is not our idea of a properly functioning Free Trade Agreement.
Both the lumber and dairy issues are enduring matters of dispute between the U.S. and Canada, though for slightly different reasons.

The Canadian lumber industry functions differently from that of the United States. In the U.S., most logging is done by private companies on privately owned land. The Canadian timber industry operates largely on public lands, with companies paying a fee to harvest. U.S. logging companies charge that this constitutes an unfair government subsidy, allowing Canadian producers to flood the American market with cheaply produced softwood (from fir, spruce, pine, and other coniferous trees).

Every few years this dispute flares up, and then the Canadian and U.S. governments reach an agreement—often under pressure from American builders, who are upset about paying higher costs for wood—that sets some sort of quota on imports to the U.S. to appease all parties. The latest agreement, signed in 2006, expired in 2015, leading inexorably to Tuesday’s declaration. Bloomberg reported that some Canadian lumber officials, while disputing the U.S. charges, actually viewed the tariffs as less onerous than might have been expected.

“This is so predictable,” says Laura Dawson, director of the Canada Institute at the Wilson Center. “It’s like the Mayan calendar: 100 years of good harvest and then 10 years of chaos and darkness.”



Let's invade Canada!
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Apr 28, 2017 7:51 AM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
BritishLondon: If they carry on with trump they'll be made a fool of but to not do so requires them to admit that they've been a fool - that's the dilemma.
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Apr 28, 2017 8:50 AM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
Obviously Not enough bad dudes in the world for the Trump to sort out, laugh
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Apr 28, 2017 9:34 AM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
posolet
posoletposolettampa, Florida USA14 Threads 1 Polls 227 Posts
Trump loves to make enemies

especially with those close to us, south and north
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Apr 28, 2017 8:22 PM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
i dont see a problem...southern border crossings
have practically stopped and now the criminal illegals
in the northern states are tryin to escape to canada.

it's ironic the canadians are now complaining 'bigly'...ya know it?
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Apr 29, 2017 10:21 AM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
posolet: Trump loves to make enemies

especially with those close to us, south and north
yawn roll eyes
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Apr 29, 2017 4:09 PM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
crayons: i dont see a problem...southern border crossings
have practically stopped and now the criminal illegals
in the northern states are tryin to escape to canada.

it's ironic the canadians are now complaining 'bigly'...ya know it?
Trumps chasing out the wrong one's , instead of Mexicans he should chase out the bludgers who won't work . If he chased them south I am sure Mexico would have the sorted before breakfast .
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Apr 29, 2017 7:07 PM CST Trump's Trade War With Canada.. uh, Milk and Softwood Anybody?
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
epirb: Trumps chasing out the wrong one's , instead of Mexicans he should chase out the bludgers who won't work . If he chased them south I am sure Mexico would have the sorted before breakfast .
the criminals runnin to canada are somali's,N.African
muzzies...Cutting taxes would go a long way to make it possible Defund All the libtard Grants as well as Defunding all the "libtard slacker programs". When the cockroaches
begin to scatter they'll meet their own demise very kwikleee.
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