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May 3, 2017 3:22 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
mikemo68
mikemo68mikemo68Gijon, Asturias Spain6 Threads 2 Polls 611 Posts
Hi guys,

I am spanish and I am learning English, I just want you to do me a favour, please.. can you help me to understand the proper usage of this sentence " the hand strikes then gives a flower " wave
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May 3, 2017 3:24 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
mikemo68: Hi guys,

I am spanish and I am learning English, I just want you to do me a favour, please.. can you help me to understand the proper usage of this sentence " the hand strikes then gives a flower "


Is that a translation from Spanish?
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May 3, 2017 3:27 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
mikemo68
mikemo68mikemo68Gijon, Asturias Spain6 Threads 2 Polls 611 Posts
mollybaby: Is that a translation from Spanish?


Hi Molly, I really don´t know to be frank, do you recognize it?
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May 3, 2017 3:31 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
mikemo68
mikemo68mikemo68Gijon, Asturias Spain6 Threads 2 Polls 611 Posts
There are a few synonyms, as a " six of one and half a dozen of the other" or "the principle of the carrot and the stick"

is that right??dunno
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May 3, 2017 3:41 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
mikemo68: There are a few synonyms, as a " six of one and half a dozen of the other" or "the principle of the carrot and the stick"

is that right??


To be honest, the first saying sounds like what happens in a typical case of domestic violence blues

The 2nd statement means that both are equal

The third is related to a donkey/horse. You either encourage them to move by holding a carrot in front of them, or hit them with a stick.
This saying could be used with humans in the work environment, etc.

Glad to see you back, Mike applause
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May 3, 2017 4:10 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
I've not heard of this saying, but it sounds similar to 'he gives with one hand and takes with the other'.

It describes an untrustworthy, or manipulative person; someone who gains trust and then abuses that trust for personal gain.

The phrase which you describe seems to be the reverse. It describes someone who tries to regain trust after abusing it, but there is an implication that the giving of the flower isn't genuine and they will strike again.
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May 3, 2017 8:14 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
mikemo68: There are a few synonyms, as a " six of one and half a dozen of the other" or "the principle of the carrot and the stick"

is that right??


"The "carrot and stick" approach (also "carrot or stick approach") is an idiom that refers to a policy of offering a combination of rewards and punishment to induce good behavior. It is named in reference to a cart driver dangling a carrot in front of a mule and holding a stick behind it. The mule would move towards the carrot because it wants the reward of food, while also moving away from the stick behind it, since it does not want the punishment of pain, thus drawing the cart.

The idiom is used in the field of International Relations to describe the realist concept of 'hard power'. The carrot can stand for tax cuts or other benefits, the stick can stand for the use of (psychological) violence and threats by the government.

In modern usage, the idea has also come to be used in a related idiom, "the carrot or the stick." This refers to the process of weighing and/or deciding whether a desired behavior would be better induced via the enticement of benefits or the threat of punishments."

From Google.
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May 3, 2017 8:23 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
A (verbal) blow followed by a compliment ...

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May 3, 2017 8:29 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
HexagonKeySet: A (verbal) blow followed by a compliment ...


More so with an abusive treatment and then give gifts so as to keep the cycle endless.

A most rotten and sickening relationship. The world of the controlled and the abuser.
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May 4, 2017 5:06 AM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
mikemo68: Hi guys,

I am spanish and I am learning English, I just want you to do me a favour, please.. can you help me to understand the proper usage of this sentence " the hand strikes then gives a flower "



I've never heard this either so I Googled it and the top responses were a quote from the TV series The Office and a song by someone called Mimisiku confused
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May 4, 2017 2:00 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
serena123
serena123serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa44 Threads 2 Polls 2,821 Posts
mikemo68: Hi guys,

I am spanish and I am learning English, I just want you to do me a favour, please.. can you help me to understand the proper usage of this sentence " the hand strikes then gives a flower "

HE hurts you really badly.. Then you are stupid enough to take him back, when he says he is sorry
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May 5, 2017 6:33 AM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
mikemo68
mikemo68mikemo68Gijon, Asturias Spain6 Threads 2 Polls 611 Posts
lindsyjones: "The "carrot and stick" approach (also "carrot or stick approach") is an idiom that refers to a policy of offering a combination of rewards and punishment to induce good behavior. It is named in reference to a cart driver dangling a carrot in front of a mule and holding a stick behind it. The mule would move towards the carrot because it wants the reward of food, while also moving away from the stick behind it, since it does not want the punishment of pain, thus drawing the cart.

The idiom is used in the field of International Relations to describe the realist concept of 'hard power'. The carrot can stand for tax cuts or other benefits, the stick can stand for the use of (psychological) violence and threats by the government.

In modern usage, the idea has also come to be used in a related idiom, "the carrot or the stick." This refers to the process of weighing and/or deciding whether a desired behavior would be better induced via the enticement of benefits or the threat of punishments."

From Google.


I believe that's a good one for a none romantic relationship context.wave
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May 5, 2017 6:36 AM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
mikemo68
mikemo68mikemo68Gijon, Asturias Spain6 Threads 2 Polls 611 Posts
mikemo68: I believe that's a good one for a none romantic relationship context.


doh I believe that's a good one for a non-romantic relationship context.laugh
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May 6, 2017 8:41 AM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
sergio09
sergio09sergio09Knoxville, Tennessee USA31 Threads 901 Posts
It means stay away from this person!
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May 6, 2017 9:35 PM CST the hand strikes then gives a flower
It sounds violent to me. I have not heard that phrase before.
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