New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms ( Archived) (47)

May 30, 2017 3:22 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
The girls can wear trousers while the boys can wear culottes or kilts.

A primary school in New Zealand has abolished gendered school uniforms to avoid stereotyping, following in the footsteps of dozens of British schools.

The move comes after some girls at Dunedin North Intermediate School in the South Island complained about having to wear “archaic” kilts, headteacher Heidi Hayward said.

The school, which has around 200 pupils aged 10-13, began allowing female pupils to wear trousers in 2016.

But this created further problems when the small number of girls who chose to wear trousers were teased for dressing “like boys”, staff said. In response, the school created five “gender neutral” options, including shorts, long pants, culottes, a kilt and long trousers, with pupils free to choose any of the options, regardless of their gender.

Ms Hayward told the Otago Daily Times that the initiative aimed to remove gender stereotypes.

We don't say there's a girls' uniform and a boys' uniform," she said. "There's five options for the uniform, and as long as you wear them in their entirety, you can wear whichever uniform you please.

``Last year I had a couple of kids who challenged me. They said: `Why do we have to wear kilts? You can wear pants. Why can't we?' That seemed pretty logical to me. It was 2016 and I thought it was odd that we still have these stereotypes. What we were hoping to avoid is making it hard.

``If you're a girl who doesn't want to wear a skirt, you should have an option that works for you. That's where the culottes come in,'' she said, adding that none of the boys so far have opted for the kilt.

She said pupils have been accepting of the options, but parents had taken longer to warm to the initiative.

``The kids weren't really fussed about it. It's adults that have taken a while to get their heads around it - they've asked lots of questions.''

Lonely road:
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One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
sophiasummer: The girls can wear trousers while the boys can wear culottes or kilts.

A primary school in New Zealand has abolished gendered school uniforms to avoid stereotyping, following in the footsteps of dozens of British schools.

The move comes after some girls at Dunedin North Intermediate School in the South Island complained about having to wear “archaic” kilts, headteacher Heidi Hayward said.

The school, which has around 200 pupils aged 10-13, began allowing female pupils to wear trousers in 2016.

But this created further problems when the small number of girls who chose to wear trousers were teased for dressing “like boys”, staff said. In response, the school created five “gender neutral” options, including shorts, long pants, culottes, a kilt and long trousers, with pupils free to choose any of the options, regardless of their gender.

Ms Hayward told the Otago Daily Times that the initiative aimed to remove gender stereotypes.

We don't say there's a girls' uniform and a boys' uniform," she said. "There's five options for the uniform, and as long as you wear them in their entirety, you can wear whichever uniform you please.

``Last year I had a couple of kids who challenged me. They said: `Why do we have to wear kilts? You can wear pants. Why can't we?' That seemed pretty logical to me. It was 2016 and I thought it was odd that we still have these stereotypes. What we were hoping to avoid is making it hard.

``If you're a girl who doesn't want to wear a skirt, you should have an option that works for you. That's where the culottes come in,'' she said, adding that none of the boys so far have opted for the kilt.

She said pupils have been accepting of the options, but parents had taken longer to warm to the initiative.

``The kids weren't really fussed about it. It's adults that have taken a while to get their heads around it - they've asked lots of questions.''

Lonely road:


It's nice that NZ is catching up with with the rest of the civilised world.
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May 30, 2017 3:35 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
sophiasummer: The girls can wear trousers while the boys can wear culottes or kilts.

Lonely road:



well, any clothing manufacturers who want to go broke overnight can start making skirts for boys!

Come the revolution the people running such schools will be amongst the first against the wall ... and it won;t be to give them medals !



doh
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May 30, 2017 3:47 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
One2note: It's nice that NZ is catching up with with the rest of the civilised world.


Yes
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May 30, 2017 3:49 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
HexagonKeySet: well, any clothing manufacturers who want to go broke overnight can start making skirts for boys!

Come the revolution the people running such schools will be amongst the first against the wall ... and it won;t be to give them medals !


Over cut and paste
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May 30, 2017 3:50 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
sophiasummer: Yes


Do you think gender homogenisation is a good thing ?

Even the dairy companies are going back to non-homogenised products !
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May 30, 2017 3:51 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
sophiasummer: Over cut and paste


Bit random ... I'll have to do my Manuel Impersonation

"Que ... no undertand wot chew mean ??"
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May 30, 2017 3:56 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
A cool house cow is the best.
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May 30, 2017 3:57 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
SkyblueBabe
SkyblueBabeSkyblueBabeSydney, New South Wales Australia3 Threads 125 Posts
PC gone mad....doh wink
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May 30, 2017 4:05 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
The main thing, is that the children get enough coffee for their development.
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May 30, 2017 4:21 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
how ridiculous.

We have free milk for them.
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May 30, 2017 5:02 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
I guess coffee flavoured milk could work. As long as you put heaps of coffee in it.
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May 30, 2017 5:18 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
pat8lanips: I guess coffee flavoured milk could work. As long as you put heaps of coffee in it.


Or IVF drips attached to their desks?
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May 30, 2017 5:31 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
mollybaby: Or IVF drips attached to their desks?

ve then

aww give them a chance to learn.
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May 30, 2017 5:34 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
sophiasummer: ve then

aww give them a chance to learn.


They'd learn on speed that way laugh
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May 30, 2017 5:41 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
how sad.
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May 30, 2017 5:44 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
sophiasummer: how sad.


Don't worry Soph, It's not going to happen coffee


I think it is a good idea to use non gender-specific uniforms.

Although if I had the choice I would ban all uniforms anyway. Most of them are horrible. We had to wear one. Most schools do.
But at least here now, most can wear trousers as well as skirts.thumbs up
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May 30, 2017 5:56 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
mollybaby: Don't worry Soph, It's not going to happen


I think it is a good idea to use non gender-specific uniforms.

Although if I had the choice I would ban all uniforms anyway. Most of them are horrible. We had to wear one. Most schools do.
But at least here now, most can wear trousers as well as skirts.


I absolutely think its a very well thought out idea.
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May 30, 2017 5:59 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Uniforms were mandatory in my schools to maintain equality of appearance. Why does this type of political correctness have to lean to gender specific boys/men's usual attire without having boys wear skirts? Makes no sense to me todo this without skirts on boys and call it gender neutrality or non stereotyping. Doesn't really matter to me but Why do they need to do this?
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May 30, 2017 6:07 AM CST New Zealand school abolishes gendered uniforms
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
galrads: Uniforms were mandatory in my schools to maintain equality of appearance. Why does this type of political correctness have to lean to gender specific boys/men's usual attire without having boys wear skirts? Makes no sense to me todo this without skirts on boys and call it gender neutrality or non stereotyping. Doesn't really matter to me but Why do they need to do this?


I guess just giving everybody the choice to wear what they want.


The reasoning for uniforms here too is also supposedly to maintain equality of appearance. But it only does it very superficially.
People will still show their riches in their hairstyle, shoes, other adornments even if the basic uniform is the same.
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