London: Van crashes into pedestrians outside Finsbury Park mosque (38)
It wont
You have "him" now.
Yet how many more?
You have "him" now.
Yet how many more?
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I don't applaud our prime minister for calling Darren Osborne Road terrorist. It's inflammatory and it bestows power on the perpetrator.
I don't think any of these murderers should be given the status of terrorist.
I think our prime minister should have called them all knobends.
I don't think any of these murderers should be given the status of terrorist.
I think our prime minister should have called them all knobends.
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jac_the_gripper: I don't applaud our prime minister for calling Darren Osborne Road terrorist. It's inflammatory and it bestows power on the perpetrator.
I don't think any of these murderers should be given the status of terrorist.
I think our prime minister should have called them all knobends.
I don't think any of these murderers should be given the status of terrorist.
I think our prime minister should have called them all knobends.
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No, I'm not afraid of my neighbours, Guzman. 
This is the kind of place where kids can forget to put their bicycle away at the end of the day and it will still be there in the street in the morning.
My daughter was relieved that this man didn't live here, though. It reduces the chance that she will have served him in the shop.
She said, had she chatted to him, had friendly conversations as you do with customers, she would have felt guilty by association.
It has been reported that Darren Osborne's sister has made a statement to the press: she apologised.
This is the kind of place where kids can forget to put their bicycle away at the end of the day and it will still be there in the street in the morning.
My daughter was relieved that this man didn't live here, though. It reduces the chance that she will have served him in the shop.
She said, had she chatted to him, had friendly conversations as you do with customers, she would have felt guilty by association.
It has been reported that Darren Osborne's sister has made a statement to the press: she apologised.
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jac_the_gripper: No, I'm not afraid of my neighbours, Guzman.
This is the kind of place where kids can forget to put their bicycle away at the end of the day and it will still be there in the street in the morning.
My daughter was relieved that this man didn't live here, though. It reduces the chance that she will have served him in the shop.
She said, had she chatted to him, had friendly conversations as you do with customers, she would have felt guilty by association.
It has been reported that Darren Osborne's sister has made a statement to the press: she apologised.
This is the kind of place where kids can forget to put their bicycle away at the end of the day and it will still be there in the street in the morning.
My daughter was relieved that this man didn't live here, though. It reduces the chance that she will have served him in the shop.
She said, had she chatted to him, had friendly conversations as you do with customers, she would have felt guilty by association.
It has been reported that Darren Osborne's sister has made a statement to the press: she apologised.
You are lucky where you live
The knobends around here would weld the kids bike to the top of a powerpole 
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jac_the_gripper: No, I'm not afraid of my neighbours, Guzman.
This is the kind of place where kids can forget to put their bicycle away at the end of the day and it will still be there in the street in the morning.
My daughter was relieved that this man didn't live here, though. It reduces the chance that she will have served him in the shop.
She said, had she chatted to him, had friendly conversations as you do with customers, she would have felt guilty by association.
It has been reported that Darren Osborne's sister has made a statement to the press: she apologised.
This is the kind of place where kids can forget to put their bicycle away at the end of the day and it will still be there in the street in the morning.
My daughter was relieved that this man didn't live here, though. It reduces the chance that she will have served him in the shop.
She said, had she chatted to him, had friendly conversations as you do with customers, she would have felt guilty by association.
It has been reported that Darren Osborne's sister has made a statement to the press: she apologised.
This could happen everywhere. The responsible chose London as his target, perhaps pretending a sort of vengeance for the recent attacks with vehicles and knives.
He copied also the criminal methods. That's one reason to call it terrorism, because spreads an environment of terror.
A murder is a murder, however.
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I think, this accident was caused by bad servicing in Wales......(van).......how he made it to London i.ll never know........don't get me wrong , the welsh are all right....kinda.....???but to let one loose on a van ..is very Irresponsible.....when knowledge is only limited...to a horse and cart ........
jmo......
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Conrad73: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCsxe4TWAAAm9F7.jpg
ye-ah it's over, londanistan/francistan has been captured.
silly people protect their islamo captors more than their own culture, its called stockholm syndrome...
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Lookin4missright: When will it stop ....
We're in it for the long haul. Over the coming decades we'll see either liberals making a principled attack on the muslim family championing woman, gay and individual rights, some kind of right-wing populism with a strongman and a country where nothing really works properly, or we'll see sharia law.
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How have leaders traditionally prepared their armies for battle?
What was the tone of Winston Churchill's speeches to the people when at war with Germany?
What was the tone of Winston Churchill's speeches to the people when at war with Germany?
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Seriously though... who's idea was to allow so many immigrants from such a different background into the UK to begin with?
Could they not see this coming?
In times of European war when many people came to this country they put the French in one place, Germans in another, Ukrainians in another, etc etc.
So as to avoid fighting and problems.
You can't even put muslims and no muslims in the same arab country for too long as they end up killing each other.
Did anybody really think it would be different in this case?
My advice? Don't invite people in if you have nothing in common with them.
Could they not see this coming?
In times of European war when many people came to this country they put the French in one place, Germans in another, Ukrainians in another, etc etc.
So as to avoid fighting and problems.
You can't even put muslims and no muslims in the same arab country for too long as they end up killing each other.
Did anybody really think it would be different in this case?
My advice? Don't invite people in if you have nothing in common with them.
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jac_the_gripper: My daughter told me this morning that the van used in the attack was hired from Pontyclun Van Hire, a ten minute walk from my house.
I've used the company myself and the distinctive logo on the vans is a regular site in the locality.
I don't know if it's common for people outside the area to hire these vans.
I've used the company myself and the distinctive logo on the vans is a regular site in the locality.
I don't know if it's common for people outside the area to hire these vans.
This guy who drove to the North London Mosque for this attack lived only lives 5 minutes away from my place in Cardiff,, crazy to think why he done this, but it seems the whole situation is getting worse across the UK sadly.
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Hiya Paul.
I'm curious - has the proximity of this man left you thinking, or feeling different from other attacks?
I'm curious - has the proximity of this man left you thinking, or feeling different from other attacks?
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Lookin4missright: When will it stop ....
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Ah...........now all you muslim lovers, defenders of the poor muslims, living off the UK State in slum conditions, my fart bleeds for you all.
Best is you all go back to your cesspits that you crawled out of............because l just found this report:
"Anti-terrorist police who one time burst into the Finsbury Park mosque in north London found weapons including a stun gun and hundreds of suspected forged or stolen passports, identity and credit cards. They also found a CS gas canister and a blank-firing imitation firearm at the building, which security forces believe has been used as a haven and base for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. About 150 Metropolitan police officers, many in body armour and supported by a helicopter and specialist firearms teams in surrounding streets, used a battering ram as they stormed the building at around 2am. They met no resistance. Seven men - five Algerians, a Somalian and an Albanian - were arrested under the Terrorism Act as officers searched for several suspects and evidence of what they believed was an operation to provide terrorist groups with false identity papers and travel documents."
All innocent victims of war?, yeah l know they are, give them more money, give them houses and flats, feel sorry for them.
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I was by being extraordinarily sarcastic, Yubba.
The arms discovered and people arrested in the connection with the mosque will have come about through the mosque being under observation.
If the people arrested were part of a network, then it would no longer be a discreet base to work from.
That would imply that after the event it would have almost certainly reverted back to just being a mosque.
Even if there were still some connection, the chances of Osborne hurting anyone other than ordinary folk leaving after evening prayers is really rather small.
Also, we have a judicial system here where people are considered innocent until proven guilty. It's one of the things that we rub other cultures noses in when being superior. It's a bit tricky trying to claim the moral and intellectual high ground if you condone running over random people in the street because some other people used the building behind them for something bad at some other point in time.
The entire congregation being part of a terrorist network doesn't really fit in with the restraint demonstrated by the imam and other people who apprehended Osborne, along with the reported praise of that act by the police, either.
Your claims that Osborne harmed guilty people is based on logical fallacy, and in doing so, gross bigotry.
You're far from being a stupid man, Yubba, but you really do have some stupid moments.
The arms discovered and people arrested in the connection with the mosque will have come about through the mosque being under observation.
If the people arrested were part of a network, then it would no longer be a discreet base to work from.
That would imply that after the event it would have almost certainly reverted back to just being a mosque.
Even if there were still some connection, the chances of Osborne hurting anyone other than ordinary folk leaving after evening prayers is really rather small.
Also, we have a judicial system here where people are considered innocent until proven guilty. It's one of the things that we rub other cultures noses in when being superior. It's a bit tricky trying to claim the moral and intellectual high ground if you condone running over random people in the street because some other people used the building behind them for something bad at some other point in time.
The entire congregation being part of a terrorist network doesn't really fit in with the restraint demonstrated by the imam and other people who apprehended Osborne, along with the reported praise of that act by the police, either.
Your claims that Osborne harmed guilty people is based on logical fallacy, and in doing so, gross bigotry.
You're far from being a stupid man, Yubba, but you really do have some stupid moments.
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chicago)...and mosques are notorious for hiding gun caches,
in fact this particular mosque has produced its share of killers, quoting zero hedge "Al'CIA'da operatives including the “shoebomber” Richard Reid and "Zacarias Moussaoui" attended the Finsbury Park mosque. In 2002, weapons training had taken place inside the building. The mosque rose to notoriety when Abu Hamza al-Masri became Imam of the Mosque due to his extremist ideologies and views on terrorism.
its Over for western europeans until y'all grow a set n' arm yourselves.
the poles;czechs/eastern europeans are the only ones
left with any sense, they arm themselves/even russia
lets their citizens arm themselves.