Where's the international help (56)
I did read in the British media some stuff about Trump's promised aid.
I'm pretty sure it said that as part of the package, low cost loans would be available for uninsured properties.
That appears to imply some level of interest would be payable on the loans.
I'm also thinking the people who would be uninsured are the people who couldn't afford insurance.
Would they be able to pay back loans at all, never mind ones geared towards profit, however small?
Maybe, I've misunderstood.
I'm pretty sure it said that as part of the package, low cost loans would be available for uninsured properties.
That appears to imply some level of interest would be payable on the loans.
I'm also thinking the people who would be uninsured are the people who couldn't afford insurance.
Would they be able to pay back loans at all, never mind ones geared towards profit, however small?
Maybe, I've misunderstood.
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People are dying over hear, seniors are starving, children lost and still no word of assistance from those who've received aid from the USA. trillions of dollars in debt, these catastrophes could break the bank, sink the ship, put us all in the poor house ...like back in 1929. 
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ChesneyChrist: We know you left that British couple stranded when there was room left in the boat. You put Americans first and didn't put anybody second even when you so easily could.
Links?
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galrads: So, I've not heard of any other country offering their assistance with the Irma disaster yet. The USA folks are usually the first ones other countries expect to help them when a catastrophe happens to their country. Guess I should not surprised. USA first is a good idea.
What say you other nations?
What say you other nations?
If i was rich i would definately help
but i'm not unfortunately 
I had seen parts on tv, not good Mr G 
Maybe countries are waiting to see what mr potatohead in north korea is gonna do, maybe countries are worried about sending aid if it's just gonna get nuked
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galrads: People are dying over hear, seniors are starving, children lost and still no word of assistance from those who've received aid from the USA. trillions of dollars in debt, these catastrophes could break the bank, sink the ship, put us all in the poor house ...like back in 1929. the USA
Just gonna have to call your bluff on no one helping.
Trillions of dollars in debt - good point, but that was due in part to profligate spending in the past, and most especially in the recent (Obama) past!
I wonder, how much would you get away with owing the shopkeepers in your city before they stopped giving you goods you were never gonna pay for ?
Just a thought ?
Meanwhile, godspeed to those who are working on recovery
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HexagonKeySet: Just gonna have to call your bluff on no one helping.
Trillions of dollars in debt - good point, but that was due in part to profligate spending in the past, and most especially in the recent (Obama) past!
I wonder, how much would you get away with owing the shopkeepers in your city before they stopped giving you goods you were never gonna pay for ?
Just a thought ?
Meanwhile, godspeed to those who are working on recovery
Trillions of dollars in debt - good point, but that was due in part to profligate spending in the past, and most especially in the recent (Obama) past!
I wonder, how much would you get away with owing the shopkeepers in your city before they stopped giving you goods you were never gonna pay for ?
Just a thought ?
Meanwhile, godspeed to those who are working on recovery
I do not know of any foreign country that is helping the USA recover after hurricane Irma. However, Mexico has brought aid to the USA following Hurricane Harvey, sending Red Cross volunteers, food and supplies. Yep, and Trump wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans out.
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galrads: I do not know of any foreign country that is helping the USA recover after hurricane Irma. However, Mexico has brought aid to the USA following Hurricane Harvey, sending Red Cross volunteers, food and supplies. Yep, and Trump wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans out.
So is this BS ?
Or are you claiming that nothing is happening 'just because' YOU have not heard of it ?
First click on google showed British French and Dutch were not only offering aid 'after the event' but has those thing set up in advance of Irma...
Meanwhile, back on the top "America First' there seems to be some inequality amongst US Citizens ???
Puerto Ricans and residents of the US Virgin Islands are struggling to pick up the pieces following Hurricane Irma’s pummeling of the Caribbean — and Hurricane Jose is knocking on their door.
After wreaking havoc in the Leeward Islands, the hurricane scooted just north of Puerto Rico, sparing it the most catastrophic damage. While St. Croix, one of three islands that make up the US Virgin Islands, experienced only minor damage, the storm hit sister islands St. John and St. Thomas head on, destroying nearly everything in its wake.
As of Sunday, officials said 27 people died from Irma-related incidents in the Caribbean region, including three deaths reported in the US islands of St. Thomas and St. John.
While the cleanup effort begins, many residents of these US territories say the challenges of storm relief they face are not just the devastation, but also neglect from the continental US.
“We’re always feeling like second-class citizens. They just skip over us and it hurts,” says Stephanie Brown, a local reporter on the island of St. Croix. Between press conferences and reporting, she’s fielding messages from frantic Virgin Islanders in the continental US and abroad, desperately seeking updates from the ground or word about a missing relative.
Source - PRI.org
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galrads: I do not know of any foreign country that is helping the USA recover after hurricane Irma. However, Mexico has brought aid to the USA following Hurricane Harvey, sending Red Cross volunteers, food and supplies. Yep, and Trump wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans out.
Some interesting links
" The USA is woefully unprepared and unable to ACCEPT foreign aid ..."
America’s longstanding friend Israel just kicked into gear with its experienced aid teams for Texas. Belgium may, too, as it has always felt obligated to help the USA ever since Herbert Hoover’s heroically successful post-WWI efforts to save that starving nation.
Fewer countries have publicly offered aid.
[America sanctioned Venezuela. Then it offered $5 million in aid to Harvey victims.]
The European Union sent satellites. In a statement, Mexico offered “help and coordination” to Harvey-ravaged Texas, though they didn't go into specifics
I guess much depends upon where you look and whether or not you intend to find it ?
Confirmation bias ?????
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HexagonKeySet: Some interesting links
" The USA is woefully unprepared and unable to ACCEPT foreign aid ..."
America’s longstanding friend Israel just kicked into gear with its experienced aid teams for Texas. Belgium may, too, as it has always felt obligated to help the USA ever since Herbert Hoover’s heroically successful post-WWI efforts to save that starving nation.
Fewer countries have publicly offered aid.
[America sanctioned Venezuela. Then it offered $5 million in aid to Harvey victims.]
The European Union sent satellites. In a statement, Mexico offered “help and coordination” to Harvey-ravaged Texas, though they didn't go into specifics
I guess much depends upon where you look and whether or not you intend to find it ?
Confirmation bias ?????
" The USA is woefully unprepared and unable to ACCEPT foreign aid ..."
America’s longstanding friend Israel just kicked into gear with its experienced aid teams for Texas. Belgium may, too, as it has always felt obligated to help the USA ever since Herbert Hoover’s heroically successful post-WWI efforts to save that starving nation.
Fewer countries have publicly offered aid.
[America sanctioned Venezuela. Then it offered $5 million in aid to Harvey victims.]
The European Union sent satellites. In a statement, Mexico offered “help and coordination” to Harvey-ravaged Texas, though they didn't go into specifics
I guess much depends upon where you look and whether or not you intend to find it ?
Confirmation bias ?????
Yes, I have said I do not know of any foreign countries aiding the USA after Irma. Your links please.
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galrads: Yes, I have said I do not know of any foreign countries aiding the USA after Irma. Your links please.
That was a reading test Galrads
Look again, near the beginning of the post you just quoted ... there's one there.
I 'm not yer unpaid researcher, fella
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and the bottom of the one above pri.org
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HexagonKeySet: That was a reading test Galrads
Look again, near the beginning of the post you just quoted ... there's one there.
I 'm not yer unpaid researcher, fella
Look again, near the beginning of the post you just quoted ... there's one there.
I 'm not yer unpaid researcher, fella
Eh, hex... your link leads to an article about Harvey and Katrina
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galrads: Eh, hex... your link leads to an article about Harvey and Katrina
One does yes and I'll freely admit it ... but surely you see the relevance ?
Over $800,000 was offered after Katrina ... and it was refused
Less was offered after Harvey
Less again after Irma ...
Only Britain, France and Holland are named there though !
Using phone to reply here ... I'll send you the other links later when home!
But make no mistake, having this conversation about the ins and outs of aid logistics, does NOT detract in way from my good wishes towards all who've suffered
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galrads: So, I've not heard of any other country offering their assistance with the Irma disaster yet. The USA folks are usually the first ones other countries expect to help them when a catastrophe happens to their country. Guess I should not surprised. USA first is a good idea.
What say you other nations?
What say you other nations?
After Katrina the world sent money and resources and America failed to mobilise them. America had plenty of stuff but not the ability to do anything with it - that's you all over - and without a fair and equitable distribution of resources they will rot at the top of the supply chain. You've never been very good at receiving help when you need it, it might make you feel less superior.
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ChesneyChrist: After Katrina the world sent money and resources and America failed to mobilise them. America had plenty of stuff but not the ability to do anything with it - that's you all over - and without a fair and equitable distribution of resources they will rot at the top of the supply chain. You've never been very good at receiving help when you need it, it might make you feel less superior.
I'm also wondering if perhaps (some countries) look at a country that already owes out 20 TRILLION DOLLARS and thinks, something along the following lines
"Well, after Katrina we all chipped in raised $800 million, but they didn't seem to want it ... maybe they felt insulted by us offering? Maybe we'd better not offend them by making further offers ? ?
or
" Hmmmm, tricky one this cos every million bucks we chip in for aid is a million dollars that they don't have to find themselves. The 'million' number is interesting as that's how much they (US Govt) pay Raytheon for each missile ... Nah, best keep it ... they'll just spend it more missiles that' will do more 'accidental' damage to hospitals, weddings and funeral than (say) Syrian airbases "
Could be any number of reasons eh ?
I'll be honest though - even though I don;t watch a lot of TV I haven't seen any adverts by Red Cross or similar appealing for help.
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