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Nov 18, 2017 6:54 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
rizlared: Yep, as I said 9 months ago, Trump will make damn sure he leaves office far richer than he entered. But his sycophates will not agree

The ones that believe blindly in Mr. Trump are not sychos and I am sure that some foreigners have read way more about the tax reform than they have, if they have. Even the mass media are stating facts about the Tax reform.

Is the Tax reform all bad? of course not, that would be requiere master minds laugh -in either side to be fair-

The bill has passed through the lower house with 227 "yea" and 205 "nay" this last with 13 House Republicans voting "no".
The Tax bill will be voted after thanksgiving in the Senate but how would some Republican Senators vote? like:

1. Sen Ron Johnson of Wisconsin
" this week said he would oppose the bill as written."

2. Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine,
".. has already expressed concerns about the estimated health-care premium increases caused by the individual mandate repeal.

3. Jeff Flake of Arizona

4. Sen Bob Corker of Tennessee have also raised doubts about the budget deficits generated by major tax cuts.

Houston we got a problem!
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Nov 18, 2017 7:25 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
lifeisadream: No doubt govs are too big, too expensive and too parasitic and shady everywhere.

Hilary -she is dead politically- the president is Mr. Trump and if you do believe that Mr. Trump is a Philanthropist and that he is not going to get his money back and with high returns, believe me Dragoneer you might missing a lot of what goes on in politics.
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Nov 18, 2017 7:28 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
hola, hola, hola, como estan las chalupaslaugh
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Nov 18, 2017 7:36 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Duromojon: hola, hola, hola, como estan las chalupas

Corre porque Putin viene por ti !


laugh
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Nov 18, 2017 7:47 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
lifeisadream: Corre porque Putin viene por ti !


Putin? or Puteenlaugh
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Nov 18, 2017 8:15 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
i heard on a radio program last night that the repub tax bill will cost our deficit 1.3 trillion dollars. What IS that? No one can know if that really is a real amount of anythinglaugh
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Nov 18, 2017 8:21 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
felixis99: i heard on a radio program last night that the repub tax bill will cost our deficit 1.3 trillion dollars. What IS that? No one can know if that really is a real amount of anything


is the invisible money that politicians like to play withcool
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Nov 18, 2017 11:04 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
Duromojon: is the invisible money that politicians like to play with


exactly. If that was based on the gold standard, Fort Knox would have to be the size of the State of Texas....laugh wave
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Nov 18, 2017 5:28 PM CST USA's Tax Reform
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,370 Posts
at about 75K and up is when the tax may increase for about 11% of people. I've been reading too. Beware of misinterpretations.

The senate says the hikes are done with wrong math for the tax increase with in about 5 years. They say it has to do with subsidies from the death tax they try calling healthcare. I say B.S. The senate bil shows increases and they can take their tar and feathers with the pride they don't have. Beware of the senate bill. It has more of a demonrat touch and the demonrats can smell it. Their own tactics now being used as tool to against.

The house bill wants to make cuts permanent so that a demonrat congress can't come back to easily raise them again.

There are two bills that they have to some how combine into one.
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Nov 18, 2017 5:43 PM CST USA's Tax Reform
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,370 Posts
Draegoneer: at about 75K and up is when the tax may increase for about 11% of people. I've been reading too. Beware of misinterpretations.

The senate says the hikes are done with wrong math for the tax increase with in about 5 years. They say it has to do with subsidies from the death tax they try calling healthcare. I say B.S. The senate bil shows increases and they can take their tar and feathers with the pride they don't have. Beware of the senate bill. It has more of a demonrat touch and the demonrats can smell it. Their own tactics now being used as tool to against.

The house bill wants to make cuts permanent so that a demonrat congress can't come back to easily raise them again.

There are two bills that they have to some how combine into one.


I got excited and left out that the bracket affected would be upper middle class mostly. about $50-74/5K. With the time span that would trickle down to the lower brackets.
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Nov 18, 2017 8:25 PM CST USA's Tax Reform
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Draegoneer: at about 75K and up is when the tax may increase for about 11% of people. I've been reading too. Beware of misinterpretations.

The senate says the hikes are done with wrong math for the tax increase with in about 5 years. They say it has to do with subsidies from the death tax they try calling healthcare. I say B.S. The senate bil shows increases and they can take their tar and feathers with the pride they don't have. Beware of the senate bill. It has more of a demonrat touch and the demonrats can smell it. Their own tactics now being used as tool to against.

The house bill wants to make cuts permanent so that a demonrat congress can't come back to easily raise them again.

There are two bills that they have to some how combine into one
Draegoneer: I got excited and left out that the bracket affected would be upper middle class mostly. about $50-74/5K. With the time span that would trickle down to the lower brackets.
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Perhaps, our difference of opinions is because I am not interested in one segment of the Tax Reform (which btw I doubt it is a Tax reform per se).

What is your opinion from the data of the table below?
Joint Committee on Taxation’s estimates of what each provision raises and costs in tax revenue:
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Nov 18, 2017 9:23 PM CST USA's Tax Reform
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,370 Posts
lifeisadream: .
Perhaps, our difference of opinions is because I am not interested in one segment of the Tax Reform (which btw I doubt it is a Tax reform per se).

What is your opinion from the data of the table below?
Joint Committee on Taxation’s estimates of what each provision raises and costs in tax revenue:


I like most of it.
The part on education has already been partially reformed leaning more toward apprenticeship. That's a lot better than just handing money over for "higher education?".

There are many things we do knowingly when it comes to finances and such. Supposedly to save money, make a better life, self improvement,etc. It doesn't deserve a federal over payment. I can't side with the boo-hooers on education. I and other family members have or are currently working their butts off through college and paying out of pocket. Yes, accruing debt to have better opportunities in the long term that we know has to be paid back.

Businesses have a chance to grow and expand. If pay roll and personal income tax is the largest part of revenues, why would you hinder that?

The tax bracket for $1million or more income hasn't come down much in the house bill.

The break down of itemization of what they want, doesn't cover the wording of the bill that will allow other than promised or talked about at later dates. Congress.gov. H.R. for house bills, S. for senate bills.

It will be for nothing if government doesn't get the broad hint that it needs to reign itself in from much of what it's been doing.
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Nov 19, 2017 7:13 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Duromojon: Putin? or Puteen


Putín!



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Nov 19, 2017 7:15 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
lifeisadream: Putín!


I like your hatgrin
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Nov 19, 2017 7:17 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Duromojon: I like your hat


I like your eyes laugh
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Nov 19, 2017 7:21 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
lifeisadream: I like your eyes



laugh laugh guess what. yesterday changing channels I found this western movie

Charlston Heston was there, James Coburn was there. and who else? Jorge Riveroconfused

I didn't watch the whole movie. Is he still around?confused
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Nov 19, 2017 7:22 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
What!

laugh

You two amaze mebanana
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Nov 19, 2017 7:24 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
sophiasummer: What!



You two amaze me
Is CSlaugh cheering
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Nov 19, 2017 7:27 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Duromojon: guess what. yesterday changing channels I found this western movie

Charlston Heston was there, James Coburn was there. and who else? Jorge Rivero

I didn't watch the whole movie. Is he still around?


not idea, google is your friend and I am not your babysitter tongue
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Nov 19, 2017 7:32 AM CST USA's Tax Reform
Duromojon
DuromojonDuromojonTampa, Florida USA99 Threads 1,224 Posts
lifeisadream: not idea, google is your friend and I am not your babysitter


ok. I don't like your hat anymortongue
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