Astrology

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I studied a little about Chinese philosophy at university and I liked it. I consult 'I Ching' from time to time and -
as you said - it's spooky how accurate it is.

Astrology was always a little 'too much information' for me. Too many signs, houses, planets, aspects... A lot like mathematics. I like to chat about it, but I've never had enough interest to learn it properly. Tarot was a little bit too general and confusing. Again - too many cards and their mutual relations - very confusing at times. But, I Ching - it's so simple and so 'right to the point'. I'm far from an expert, but I like to consult it from time to time. I Ching bypasses the intellect and makes a direct connection to your intuitive mind. At least that's how I see it. :) At least, it always gives you another perspective and you can take a look at the things from a different angle... :)


To be honest I don't know too much about how the I Ching works...but I wonder has the binary system of the broken and unbroken lines something to do with the Yin and Yang principle? I have also read the Tao Te Ching and it is one of my favourite books. I think we have really lost the presence of the Tao in our society - that natural flow of spontaneous and healthy energy. I keep wondering how will we get it back, but I can't find the answer!!!

A strange episode I had with the I Ching is this: I once asked a particular question and used the coin method to get the hexagram. Later I forgot what the change lines were so I said before rolling the coins again - ''Give me the same hexagram as beore and show me the change lines.'' It gave me the same hexagram again! There was a 1 in 64 chance of getting the same hexagram again and yet it happened! I was quite amazed! I haven't consulted the I Ching for a long time now though.
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MsContessa: For those born around the 21/22 of June, therefore have 2 stars... Gemini and Cancer...


Oh ok, the Cusp of Magic - sounds very cool!
I've a feeling any sign would work well for you
but maybe especially Aquarius, and if you're brave -
Scorpio!
Maya74

Dreamland, Vojvodina Serbia

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cally77: To be honest I don't know too much about how the I Ching works...but I wonder has the binary system of the broken and unbroken lines something to do with the Yin and Yang principle?

Yes, they do. :)

cally77: I have also read the Tao Te Ching and it is one of my favourite books. I think we have really lost the presence of the Tao in our society - that natural flow of spontaneous and healthy energy. I keep wondering how will we get it back, but I can't find the answer!!!

As a society - hardly, but we can try on a personal level.

cally77: A strange episode I had with the I Ching is this: I once asked a particular question and used the coin method to get the hexagram. Later I forgot what the change lines were so I said before rolling the coins again - ''Give me the same hexagram as beore and show me the change lines.'' It gave me the same hexagram again! There was a 1 in 64 chance of getting the same hexagram again and yet it happened! I was quite amazed! I haven't consulted the I Ching for a long time now though.


It happened to me once - the same hexagram - 3 times in a row! I didn't like it's meaning, it was something like: 'there's no point in moving in any direction - the wise man knows when to stand still and when to move. This is NOT the time for any kind of action' and I wanted to 'do something about it' so much that I kept asking I Ching the same question and got the same hexagram 3 times! Then I stopped and accepted the reality. laugh
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Maya74:





It happened to me once - the same hexagram - 3 times in a row! I didn't like it's meaning, it was something like: 'there's no point in moving in any direction - the wise man knows when to stand still and when to move. This is NOT the time for any kind of action' and I wanted to 'do something about it' so much that I kept asking I Ching the same question and got the same hexagram 3 times! Then I stopped and accepted the reality.



That is really amazing! 3 in a row! And do you think it was the right advice now
when you look back on the situation?

One of the most memorable I Ching readings for me was about a love relationship.
I got hexagram 28...which gives the image of a tree being overwhelmed by a flood
of water. The advice, similar to your one, was to stand still like a tree and do nothing,
just let the water wash over me. Well, I survived the flood...just about!applause
Maya74

Dreamland, Vojvodina Serbia

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cally77: That is really amazing! 3 in a row! And do you think it was the right advice now
when you look back on the situation?


Yes.

cally77: One of the most memorable I Ching readings for me was about a love relationship.
I got hexagram 28...which gives the image of a tree being overwhelmed by a flood
of water. The advice, similar to your one, was to stand still like a tree and do nothing,
just let the water wash over me. Well, I survived the flood...just about!


Yesterday I got hexagram 59. I haven't consulted I Ching for a long time and when I saw it (no changing lines) I knew this was not good news (although the explanation suggested otherwise)! laugh And it wasn't. I didn't sleep all night and cried for 2 hours today. laugh

I came back to CS to cheer myself up a little bit. heart1

So, you think that Saturn coming back home to Capricorn won't have a VEEEEEERY bad effect on my love life for the next 1,5 years, despite my Moon and Venus being in Capricorn? Please, say it won't. crying laugh
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Maya74: Yes.



Yesterday I got hexagram 59. I haven't consulted I Ching for a long time and when I saw it (no changing lines) I knew this was not good news (although the explanation suggested otherwise)! And it wasn't. I didn't sleep all night and cried for 2 hours today.

I came back to CS to cheer myself up a little bit.


So, you think that Saturn coming back home to Capricorn won't have a VEEEEEERY bad effect on my love life for the next 1,5 years, despite my Moon and Venus being in Capricorn? Please, say it won't.


Hey Maya,

Hexagram 59 seems to be pretty good, Legge's version of the I Ching says of 59: ''Expansion intimates that there will be progress and success. The king goes to his ancestral temple. It will be advantageous to cross the great stream. It will be advantageous to be firm and correct.'' All good for you!!!

I consulted the I Ching yesterday - for the first time in about 3 years. It was about someone special I met last year but no longer have contact with. I got hexagram 52 :Keeping Still. Says I must be like a mountain - doing nothing and remaining alone! It does reflect the situation rather accurately.

Pluto is in Capricorn at the moment, and Pluto brings a lot of hidden things to the surface. Let them come to the surface I say - it will be good to release them. You be will refreshed when that process finishes. And anyway, Capricorn is probably one of the strongest signs in the whole zodiac: it is grounded, solid, and capable. Even if things seem less than good on the surface, underneath there is strength and stamina. Someone with their Moon and Venus in Capricorn can withstand any storm, and when the storm is over they emerge, just as strong, or even stronger than before. Now I'm envious and want to have my Moon and Venus in Capricorn too!!!
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Anaheim, California USA

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cally77: I must say that Libra woman left a massive impression on me! Her intelligence was something else, and something I respected her for deeply. But she was a bit of a ''game-player'', frequently doing things to test my loyalty to her, and that wore thin after a few months.


Hi Cally

I was just going back over the various posts. And thought I might comment on this one. Maybe give you a little different "perspective" on "things".

#1. I know NOTHING about the woman you speak of. So my comments don't apply, to HER, specifically.

#2. Being a Libra, with a Libra ascendant, myself, I have a sort of "special" view of Librans, their actions and traits.

As you say, Librans are one of the more "intelligent" signs, in the zodiac. They're an air sign. And air signs (Libra, Aquarius, Gemini) are the ONLY sign that can enter, mix, and penetrate with/through ALL the other signs of the zodiac. Their minds are quick and agile, jumping mountains in a moment, that it might take a Tauran decades to cross.

But that is sorta a two edged sword. Because they ARE so quick and facile, mentally, they also tend to get bored, quickly and easily. (They may already have formulated a solution, while others are still trying to understand the question.) And so, they may play intellectual "games", most often with themselves, but sometimes with others/the world. These are SELDOM "malicious", or done with "ulterior motives" (other than intellectual "gymnastics", simply for the sake of "exercising" their brains). And they ALL have an "ENCOMPASSING" curiosity, so those "games" may wander far afield, into areas that are incomprehensible, to others. Places, things, and ideas that just WOULDN'T occur, to most people. And, PARTICULARLY with the more "detached" (emotionally) Librans (remember, Librans are the ONLY sign of the zodiac that ISN'T a "living" being! So, while a Libran DOES "feel", they are MUCH LESS LIKELY to be "swayed" from their course, by those "feelings", than any other sign.), "feelings" are something that "atracks" their "attention". They see the effects/affects of emotions, in others, all around them. But, because of THEIR "detachment", they don't really "understand" the HOW/WHY of other's emotional attachment to "things". So it's not unusual (ESPECIALLY for Librans, more so than Aquarians and Geminis), to "involve" emotions, in their "games". Basically, they're just "exploring". But that "exploring" might easily be interpreted as "doubt", or "questioning", by others. Which is not, NECESSARILY, the case!

Air signs are often somewhat "difficult" for others to "read", because their "nature" is so "alien", to that of the other signs. Aquarian women can, in some ways, be seen as the "mother", of the zodiac. They're the "water bearer". The fixed (firmly committed) air sign. Concerned, caring, nurturing, "involved/engaged" in WHATEVER attracts their "attention". The Geminis are the "gadflies" of the zodiac. They're the mutable (changeable) air sign. So trying to "follow" THEIR interests/attention (which can alter 38 times, and return to it's ORIGINAL "object", before you CAN notice), is, for all intents and purposes, useless, not to mention frustrating! The best description of a Gemini might be that "life" amuses them. But Librans are the "Cardinal" (primary - MOST "air" like) air sign, and fall SOMEWHERE in the middle. Their ideas/views/commitments can change, more easily than an Aquarian's, but are not so superficial as a Geminis. So they can "engage" ardently, but "disengage" in the blink of an eye. The smallest feather might tip their "scales", here, while ALL of the Himalayas might not, there! Librans are ALWAYS, and CONSTANTLY, weighing/measuring/inspecting EVERY "thing".

Anyway, just MY "view" of air signs, generally, and Librans, specifically. dunno handshake handshake
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Anaheim, California USA

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cally77: I read once that Libra is the first sign going in the direction of ''the other'', rather than being self-centred. The first six signs - Aries to Virgo apparently focus mostly on their own selves, whether the latter 6 focus more on their relationships with other people. At least that's the excuse I give when I'm being self-centred!


This was interesting, because I haven't heard it, before. I'll have to investigate it, a little! Thanks! doh handshake cheers
Maya74

Dreamland, Vojvodina Serbia

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cally77: Hexagram 59 seems to be pretty good, Legge's version of the I Ching says of 59: ''Expansion intimates that there will be progress and success. The king goes to his ancestral temple. It will be advantageous to cross the great stream. It will be advantageous to be firm and correct.'' All good for you!!!


At the moment, it doesn't seem like that, but time will tell. wink

cally77: Someone with their Moon and Venus in Capricorn can withstand any storm, and when the storm is over they emerge, just as strong, or even stronger than before. Now I'm envious and want to have my Moon and Venus in Capricorn too!!!


Your words sound comforting. cheers wink
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Hi,

Thanks for your post....definitely very revealing into the Libran way of being!
When I think back on the particular Libran I dated she actually strikes me
as nearly indistinguishable from a Gemini....the love of books and quick thinking,
the ability to enter a room and mingle freely (something I can’t do at all !)
and a sort of lightness of emotion - not a lack of it, just not an intensity of emotion.
She was kinda like a butterfly, but I needed to be with some other kind of creature
it seems!!! Just haven’t figured out which one yetbeer
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Maya74: At the moment, it doesn't seem like that, but time will tell.



Your words sound comforting.




By the way, there’s an interesting Vedic astrology site I found,
you might know it already, it’s called barbarapijan...if you
google it and include your moon sign it will give you a really detailed
description of yourself. There’s lots of other interesting stuff on her site too...Enjoy!wine
Maya74

Dreamland, Vojvodina Serbia

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cally77: By the way, there’s an interesting Vedic astrology site I found,
you might know it already, it’s called barbarapijan...if you
google it and include your moon sign it will give you a really detailed
description of yourself. There’s lots of other interesting stuff on her site too...Enjoy!


Thank you. cheers
Let_Usonline today! Let_Us

Anaheim, California USA

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cally77: Hi,

Thanks for your post....definitely very revealing into the Libran way of being!
When I think back on the particular Libran I dated she actually strikes me
as nearly indistinguishable from a Gemini....the love of books and quick thinking,
the ability to enter a room and mingle freely (something I can’t do at all !)
and a sort of lightness of emotion - not a lack of it, just not an intensity of emotion.
She was kinda like a butterfly, but I needed to be with some other kind of creature
it seems!!! Just haven’t figured out which one yet


I take it this was in response to my description of Libra(n)s. And you're right in thinking that Geminis and Librans are "similar". They are in MANY/MOST ways. But a Libran will be MORE "serious", about any/everything, than a Gemini. Geminis tend to be more "engaged" in the act of living, while Librans are more "contemplative" of life. While Aquarians not only SEE the problems, but tend to get ACTIVELY engaged in affecting life.

You might describe them this way.

Geminis are enjoying life. They're interested in sucking all the "juice" out of life. They're the ULTIMATE "experiencer". They just wanna "Ride the wave!"

Librans are thinking about life. They're interested in knowing and understanding life, but aren't particularly inclined to "step in", and "change/alter'affect" the problems/mistakes they see, either BEFORE or AFTER they are made. Or even TELL anybody about them, unless ASKED! They"comprehend" more. But they DON'T "see" it, as THEIR "responsibility" to "change" it!

Aquarians are concerned about life. They're the ones that, if they perceive a problem, and it ENGAGES their "attention", can, and WILL move the very planets, themselves, to alter/change the "wrongs" they "see". They may NOT "see" all the "possibilities" that a Libran sees! Or make as subtle "distinctions" as a Libran. But THEY are the ones that are MORE LIKELY to "DO/ACCOMPLISH" something, to correct it! Aquarians are the ones "I" would seek out, if I had an IMPOSSIBLE task, that REQUIRED doing!

Subtle differences. And probably difficult for most people to "appreciate". But DISTINCT differences, if your eye is discriminating enough to detect them.

ALL the Air signs HAVE the ability to "interact" well, with others. The question isn't CAN they, but does it MATTER to them, ENOUGH for them to EXERCISE their abilities!

And they ALL "feel", but they are VERY different, in HOW they "show" their "feelings".

Geminis wear THEIR feelings on their sleeves (so to say). It's a RARE Gemini that WILL bother to "hide" his feelings.

With a Libran, you'll RARELY "see" their "emotions" displayed. You'll have to be CLOSE, and "cared about" (and STILL need to be perceptive), for a Libran to allow you to detect their "feelings". If a Libran EVER "shows" you their "feelings", you can be SURE that they WANT you to know!

With an Aquarian, they DON'T "hide" their feelings, but they DON'T push your nose in them, either. If you're "interested", it's easy to "know" where an Aquarian stands. But, UNLIKE a Gemini. they NOT likely to walk up and pl ant a big kiss on you, either.
Let_Usonline today! Let_Us

Anaheim, California USA

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cally77: By the way, there’s an interesting Vedic astrology site I found,
you might know it already, it’s called barbarapijan...if you
google it and include your moon sign it will give you a really detailed
description of yourself. There’s lots of other interesting stuff on her site too...Enjoy!


I'm sorry, but I searched this site. And I can't figure out where or how to input any info, and get any output. Now, I KNOW I'm not particularly technically "savvy". doh So could you provide a little more "how to" details? Thanks. handshake
mykingdomforanam mykingdomforanam

Mountain View, Hawaii USA

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Uranus is aquamarine.

It only looks green, because of the methane that surrounds it.
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Limerick, Limerick Ireland

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Let_Us: Hi Cally

I was just going back over the various posts. And thought I might comment on this one. Maybe give you a little different "perspective" on "things".

#1. I know NOTHING about the woman you speak of. So my comments don't apply, to HER, specifically.

#2. Being a Libra, with a Libra ascendant, myself, I have a sort of "special" view of Librans, their actions and traits.

As you say, Librans are one of the more "intelligent" signs, in the zodiac. They're an air sign. And air signs (Libra, Aquarius, Gemini) are the ONLY sign that can enter, mix, and penetrate with/through ALL the other signs of the zodiac. Their minds are quick and agile, jumping mountains in a moment, that it might take a Tauran decades to cross.

But that is sorta a two edged sword. Because they ARE so quick and facile, mentally, they also tend to get bored, quickly and easily. (They may already have formulated a solution, while others are still trying to understand the question.) And so, they may play intellectual "games", most often with themselves, but sometimes with others/the world. These are SELDOM "malicious", or done with "ulterior motives" (other than intellectual "gymnastics", simply for the sake of "exercising" their brains). And they ALL have an "ENCOMPASSING" curiosity, so those "games" may wander far afield, into areas that are incomprehensible, to others. Places, things, and ideas that just WOULDN'T occur, to most people. And, PARTICULARLY with the more "detached" (emotionally) Librans (remember, Librans are the ONLY sign of the zodiac that ISN'T a "living" being! So, while a Libran DOES "feel", they are MUCH LESS LIKELY to be "swayed" from their course, by those "feelings", than any other sign.), "feelings" are something that "atracks" their "attention". They see the effects/affects of emotions, in others, all around them. But, because of THEIR "detachment", they don't really "understand" the HOW/WHY of other's emotional attachment to "things". So it's not unusual (ESPECIALLY for Librans, more so than Aquarians and Geminis), to "involve" emotions, in their "games". Basically, they're just "exploring". But that "exploring" might easily be interpreted as "doubt", or "questioning", by others. Which is not, NECESSARILY, the case!

Air signs are often somewhat "difficult" for others to "read", because their "nature" is so "alien", to that of the other signs. Aquarian women can, in some ways, be seen as the "mother", of the zodiac. They're the "water bearer". The fixed (firmly committed) air sign. Concerned, caring, nurturing, "involved/engaged" in WHATEVER attracts their "attention". The Geminis are the "gadflies" of the zodiac. They're the mutable (changeable) air sign. So trying to "follow" THEIR interests/attention (which can alter 38 times, and return to it's ORIGINAL "object", before you CAN notice), is, for all intents and purposes, useless, not to mention frustrating! The best description of a Gemini might be that "life" amuses them. But Librans are the "Cardinal" (primary - MOST "air" like) air sign, and fall SOMEWHERE in the middle. Their ideas/views/commitments can change, more easily than an Aquarian's, but are not so superficial as a Geminis. So they can "engage" ardently, but "disengage" in the blink of an eye. The smallest feather might tip their "scales", here, while ALL of the Himalayas might not, there! Librans are ALWAYS, and CONSTANTLY, weighing/measuring/inspecting EVERY "thing".

Anyway, just MY "view" of air signs, generally, and Librans, specifically.


Hi Let.

Being a Libran myself theres alot of this i can relate to and certainly think of myself as being...esp the emotional thing and detachment thing for certain.

Wudnt consider myself intelligent though....but curious and changeable..yes
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I'm a Virgo touched for the very first time laugh choir doh
serene56

Myplace, New South Wales Australia

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Let_Us: I take it this was in response to my description of Libra(n)s. And you're right in thinking that Geminis and Librans are "similar". They are in MANY/MOST ways. But a Libran will be MORE "serious", about any/everything, than a Gemini. Geminis tend to be more "engaged" in the act of living, while Librans are more "contemplative" of life. While Aquarians not only SEE the problems, but tend to get ACTIVELY engaged in affecting life.

You might describe them this way.

Geminis are enjoying life. They're interested in sucking all the "juice" out of life. They're the ULTIMATE "experiencer". They just wanna "Ride the wave!"

Geminis wear THEIR feelings on their sleeves (so to say). It's a RARE Gemini that WILL bother to "hide" his feelings.



I agree with the first part somewhat, not so much with the second conversing


Geminis are inquisitive, interested in just about everything but also easily bored conversing


We're gregarious,and we have a genuine propensity for making people feel good but what we present to the outside world may not represent what we are feeling inside, hence the duality that many regard as a Gemimi trait.
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Anaheim, California USA

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Deedee123x: Hi Let.

Being a Libran myself theres alot of this i can relate to and certainly think of myself as being...esp the emotional thing and detachment thing for certain.

Wudnt consider myself intelligent though....but curious and changeable..yes


In general, MOST Librans DON'T (consider themselves MORE, OR less, intelligent, than ANYBODY else)! The "thing:" that sets Librans (especially, but ALL air signs) apart, is their ALMOST UNIVERSAL "interest" in, and "curiosity" about, "things". Air signs delve into MORE "topics" than the other signs. It MAY be due to an ACQUIRED "ability", more than to genetic "curiosity. I haven't figured THAT one out, yet. But I'm THINKING about it! dunno hug teddybear
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Anaheim, California USA

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serene56: I agree with the first part somewhat, not so much with the second


Geminis are inquisitive, interested in just about everything but also easily bored


We're gregarious,and we have a genuine propensity for making people feel good but what we present to the outside world may not represent what we are feeling inside, hence the duality that many regard as a Gemimi trait.


Hi Serene head banger

Did I say ANYWHERE that Geminis DON'T get "bored"? In fact, it's their "inquisitiveness" and "intellectual 'QUICKNESS'" that are MOST responsible, for THAT trait! They get to the "bottom/essence" of something MUCH MORE quickly, than ALMOST everybody else. So, while OTHERS are still trying to get a good "look" at something, Geminis are DONE! And ready for the NEXT thing!

And Geminis are "gregarious" - MORE - for the "stimulation" others provide them, than they are, because of "love/attachment" to/for the people around them! And YES! They CAN make people feel "good"! But they can ALSO make people feel VERY "bad/angry"! And I'll agree that a Gemini CAN "hide" their "feelings"! But MY contention is that they RARELY are concerned, ENOUGH, to DO so! And, while people DO tend to "see: Geminis as TWO DIFFERENT people, in ONE body, "I" don't! "I" see two OPPOSITE EXTREMES of ONE personality, in Geminis! Geminis AREN'T "happy" people, AND "sad" people. They're people that tend to "go off the deep end", with WHATEVER emotion they're feeling, at a particular "moment". That's probably a TOO "subtle" distinction, for most! But it IS there!

I'm sorry if YOU see some DISagreement, between your statements, and mine. But "I" don't! bouquet teddybear
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