…Do women want to be judged on their looks? (306)

Jan 7, 2018 4:04 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Saorstat: Och I think that's a whole different thread right there.


No, it makes sense.

Women have to work harder to get jobs, etc, than men do. It's a simple fact.

If a woman went for an interview, as well-dressed as her male counterpart, but without her make-up and hair done, they would probably think she wouldn't do as good a job, that she would be slovenly about the job. If she couldn't be bothered with the minor detail of make-up, then she may ignore minor details of the job.
Jan 7, 2018 4:04 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Saorstat
SaorstatSaorstatLongford, Ireland5 Threads 338 Posts
Deedee123x: I look after my appearance for me and nobody else.

I dont think its the women who should worry about how they are seen.
Men should really start taking more pride in their appearance themselves instead of leaving the house looking like stevie wonder dressed and cleaned them.


So you judge appearances???
.....should men??
wink
Jan 7, 2018 4:12 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland72 Threads 6,050 Posts
Saorstat: So you judge appearances???
.....should men??


I dont think it comes as any major shock that all of human kind Judge.
It comes as quick and easy to use as breathing does.

Whether u act on ur Judgements is what u have control over not the fact that u do in fact Judge.
I dare anyone here to say they dont judge ...and im not talking about apprarances im talking about anything and everything.

Ill be honest my reply was tongue in cheek to the cheeky ops opening question.

I do think everyone should look after themselves in every sence ..appearance being just a tiny part of the whole package...

wink
Jan 7, 2018 4:22 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
MsContessa
MsContessaMsContessaMayo, Ireland28 Threads 1,773 Posts
mollybaby: No, it makes sense.

Women have to work harder to get jobs, etc, than men do. It's a simple fact.

If a woman went for an interview, as well-dressed as her male counterpart, but without her make-up and hair done, they would probably think she wouldn't do as good a job, that she would be slovenly about the job. If she couldn't be bothered with the minor detail of make-up, then she may ignore minor details of the job.


I totally agree with you. In addition, when one works with the public, I think it is a mark of respect to them, when one turn up presentable...!
Jan 7, 2018 4:23 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA12 Threads 2,269 Posts
LeeCharming: …When you think about it they do in general and that is why they were makeup to enhance their looks, spend a fortune on clothing, haircuts, manicures, pedicures, hair waxing, breast implants, facelifts etc.

…Why do a number of women contradict themselves, by claiming they don’t want to be judged by their looks, when they go so far out of their way to not only grab the attention of men, but also compete to look better, than other women?

…Can we all admit that, Makeup was invented for women to attract men and cover up their imperfections? Can we admit, that women do want to be judged on their looks? Can we admit that women feel the need to wear makeup to make themselves look better and attract men? Can we admit that attractive looking women can get away with just about anything?


You WOULD introduce THIS topic! Boy, am "I" gonna get some "flack", for THIS one!

#1. NOBODY, men OR women, WANTS to be "judged" by their looks! They WANT to be judged ON/FOR their "worth".

#2. We ALL "like" our "looks" to be "appreciated". For SEVERAL reasons. Not the least of which is because of the "Entree" our appearance can/does provide!

#3. Women spend "fortunes" (and MEN are starting to) on their appearances. Yes. And, at the bottom of this activity (IF you think about it, in psychological terms), is MOSTLY (but NOT solely) a degree of "insecurity". People try to ARTIFICIALLY "enhance/improve" their appearance, as a means of securing to/for themselves MORE "acceptance/approval/influence/etc". And THIS indicates that, bottom line, they're NOT "satisfied/happy" with their PRESENT "level", of these "things". They want/need MORE! Which, to ANY psychiatrist, indicates a level/degree of "insecurity". With/about their PRESENT "situation".

#4. A TRULY "beautiful" woman (or man), someone who is "beautiful" (on the INSIDE, as well as on the outside), has NO "NEED" of "make up". I'm NOT saying that they WON'T/DON'T use any. The use of make up is an ACCEPTED "norm", these days. And so, the use of it is a COMMON practice. And, as such, will be made use of, by any/all who may wish to. But you CAN use the AMOUNT of make up used, as an "indicator" of the "degree" of a person's "insecurity".

I COULD go into more "depth", on this subject. But I doubt that most of you are REALLY interested. I might add THIS, though.

Lee (your "Charming"ness is a SUBJECTIVE matter), your use of the term "they" implies that YOU have a "bias/agenda", in introducing THIS topic! The use of the ubiquitous "they/them" are NOTORIOUS "pejoratives"! YOU are "separating" women, from the general "group" of "people". Such "separation" is USUALLY preparation for some sort of "persecution" of the separated group.

As far as YOUR "concept" that "women" ARE "lying" about their NOT wishing to be judged on/.by their looks, is the statement of a person that HASN'T thought their "position" though, well/carefully! Yes. Women DO compete with other women, for the "attention" of men. But THAT has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with your "assertion" that women are "lying" about not wanting to be judged by/for their appearance! You're obfuscating, with such an "argument".

Make up PROBABLY WAS "invented" by women. But THAT just means that THEY are MORE perceptive/inventive, as well as MORE "devious", than men are! And has NO bearing on a woman's "desire" to be "judged" on/by her "looks". And, as far as "attractive" women "getting away with anything", THAT only happens IF the men they're getting away with things WITH, are "EASILY" influenced! Basically, SUPERFICIAL men. Are you INCLUDING "YOU", amongst THAT group?

All in all, Lee, your "arguments" are somewhat "specious", So I WON'T "admit" YOUR premise! dunno wine teddybear
Jan 7, 2018 4:26 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Bogart_1960online today!
Bogart_1960online today!Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote dAzur France43 Threads 1 Polls 8,753 Posts
LeeCharming: …When you think about it they do in general and that is why they were makeup to enhance their looks, spend a fortune on clothing, haircuts, manicures, pedicures, hair waxing, breast implants, facelifts etc.

…Why do a number of women contradict themselves, by claiming they don’t want to be judged by their looks, when they go so far out of their way to not only grab the attention of men, but also compete to look better, than other women?

…Can we all admit that, Makeup was invented for women to attract men and cover up their imperfections? Can we admit, that women do want to be judged on their looks? Can we admit that women feel the need to wear makeup to make themselves look better and attract men? Can we admit that attractive looking women can get away with just about anything?



nah, bunch of crap, It just seems like some giant conspiracy theory. That would require they think of someone other than themselves.


btw, I am sure you you want hot girls to f*ck you.
Jan 7, 2018 4:30 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
LeeCharming: ...Maybe she is your hero and idol or is she just another man hater


At least Jac has the guts to show her face on her profile and like someone else said - Intellectually she would eat you alive and spit the pips out laugh laugh laugh
Jan 7, 2018 4:42 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA12 Threads 2,269 Posts
Deedee123x: I dont think it comes as any major shock that all of human kind Judge.
It comes as quick and easy to use as breathing does.

Whether u act on ur Judgements is what u have control over not the fact that u do in fact Judge.
I dare anyone here to say they dont judge ...and im not talking about apprarances im talking about anything and everything.

Ill be honest my reply was tongue in cheek to the cheeky ops opening question.

I do think everyone should look after themselves in every sence ..appearance being just a tiny part of the whole package...


Hi Dee!

I DO agree that EVERYONE DOES "judge". (That goes WITHOUT saying! It's basic "human nature"! A SURVIVAL "trait".) AND that one's 'choice" to "act" upon those judgments, IS within the person's control!

But I have SOME reservations about your "IMPLICATION" that we have NO "control" over our judgments! I'll AGREE that, for MOST of us, our "judgments" are pretty much "subconscious/automatic". But it IS possible to exercise "control" over your judgments. And it's the "WISE" person, that does this.

But there are "prerequisites" for doing so.

#1. FIRST, you have to RECOGNIZE that you ARE making a judgments, about whatever it is!
#2. Once you RECOGNIZE that your judgment IS, in fact, a "judgment", you need to EXAMINE that judgment, to "see" what it's based on/foundation is.
#3. THEN, you have to "see/judge" IF the basis of your judgment IS, in the case at hand, VALID!
#4. Once you've determined if the BASIS of your judgment IS valid (or NOT), you can THEN "decide" (consciously), whether to ACCEPT "THAT" judgment! Or to reconsider your judgment!

THIS is the basis of WISE "thought/thinking". "Knee jerk" judgments are one of the BIGGEST problems, creating MANY of the OTHER problems, in/of the world, today. professor

Just MY opinion. You're welcome to accept, or refuse, it, as you will/desire. dunno cheers teddybear
Jan 7, 2018 4:45 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Saorstat
SaorstatSaorstatLongford, Ireland5 Threads 338 Posts
mollybaby: No, it makes sense.

Women have to work harder to get jobs, etc, than men do. It's a simple fact.

If a woman went for an interview, as well-dressed as her male counterpart, but without her make-up and hair done, they would probably think she wouldn't do as good a job, that she would be slovenly about the job. If she couldn't be bothered with the minor detail of make-up, then she may ignore minor details of the job.

Pisrogues girl...and you don't believe that either
Jan 7, 2018 4:56 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
marlindaponline today!
marlindaponline today!marlindapClearwater, British Columbia Canada354 Posts
I just want to be judged on my jokes, if i cannot make someone laugh i do not want to be with them.
Jan 7, 2018 5:05 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland72 Threads 6,050 Posts
Let_Us: Hi Dee!

I DO agree that EVERYONE DOES "judge". (That goes WITHOUT saying! It's basic "human nature"! A SURVIVAL "trait".) AND that one's 'choice" to "act" upon those judgments, IS within the person's control!

But I have SOME reservations about your "IMPLICATION" that we have NO "control" over our judgments! I'll AGREE that, for MOST of us, our "judgments" are pretty much "subconscious/automatic". But it IS possible to exercise "control" over your judgments. And it's the "WISE" person, that does this.

But there are "prerequisites" for doing so.

#1. FIRST, you have to RECOGNIZE that you ARE making a judgments, about whatever it is!
#2. Once you RECOGNIZE that your judgment IS, in fact, a "judgment", you need to EXAMINE that judgment, to "see" what it's based on/foundation is.
#3. THEN, you have to "see/judge" IF the basis of your judgment IS, in the case at hand, VALID!
#4. Once you've determined if the BASIS of your judgment IS valid (or NOT), you can THEN "decide" (consciously), whether to ACCEPT "THAT" judgment! Or to reconsider your judgment!

THIS is the basis of WISE "thought/thinking". "Knee jerk" judgments are one of the BIGGEST problems, creating MANY of the OTHER problems, in/of the world, today.

Just MY opinion. You're welcome to accept, or refuse, it, as you will/desire.


Where did i say we have "no control" over our acting on judgemrnts
Jan 7, 2018 5:13 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Saorstat
SaorstatSaorstatLongford, Ireland5 Threads 338 Posts
Deedee123x: I dont think it comes as any major shock that all of human kind Judge.
It comes as quick and easy to use as breathing does.

Whether u act on ur Judgements is what u have control over not the fact that u do in fact Judge.
I dare anyone here to say they dont judge ...and im not talking about apprarances im talking about anything and everything.

Ill be honest my reply was tongue in cheek to the cheeky ops opening question.

I do think everyone should look after themselves in every sence ..appearance being just a tiny part of the whole package...


All of that and only half an answer...

...longwinded git wave
Jan 7, 2018 5:16 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland72 Threads 6,050 Posts
Saorstat: All of that and only half an answer...

...longwinded git


Oi....watch it.

I dont judge appearances per say....but everyone has their preferences in who they are attracted to have they not??

Does that answer ur question....oh mighty one?? confused
Jan 7, 2018 5:32 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Saorstat
SaorstatSaorstatLongford, Ireland5 Threads 338 Posts
MsContessa: I totally agree with you. In addition, when one works with the public, I think it is a mark of respect to them, when one turn up presentable...!

Now you've gone and started another thread..
Jan 7, 2018 5:32 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA12 Threads 2,269 Posts
jac_the_gripper: “Can we agree that you want to be judged by your narrow minded, arrogant, misogynistic thread?

Whether you want to be, or not, you are going to be.

What's that? Your thread isn't the whole of you? There's more to you than just your thread? There's a complex, intelligent, feeling human being behind this thread?

So, you're just trying to get a discussion going; you're trying to interact, learn, grow, make friends maybe?

You want us to see the real you behind your thread...but how are you going to do that without creating more posts, or threads by which you'll be judged?

Certainly, no one's going to know you even exist if you just sit there at home and read the forums.

You've got to play the game with the rules made up by someone else if you want opportunity, interaction, learning, growth, a relationship, friendship...whatever it is you're here for.

And when you do the right thing, the socially acceptable thing of grasping opportunity rather than sit at home accepting nothingness, you'll be judged for it.

Do I want to be judged by my looks?”


...My threads are created to discuss subjects and if you are a snow flake, then you can always ignore my threads, because you clearly have trouble accepting the truth and are attempting shaming tacticsrolling on the floor laughing

Dear Lee, I MUST say that I'm MORE in sympathy with Jac's "argument", than yours! And your "snow flake" comment only CONTRIBUTES to that fact. YOUR version of the "truth" is just THAT! YOUR version! And THAT DOESN'T make it "FACT/TRUTH"! As you assert!

But Jac, I DISAGREE with something YOU said, too. You say "You've got to play the game with rules made up by someone else . . ."! Blatt! No! Wrong! You DON'T have to "play" ANY "game" by ANYBODY'S "rules"! The "THING" IS, you've got to WILLING to "pay the price", of/for "playing" by YOUR OWN "rules"! IF you WANT to "play a/the game". #1. You CAN choose NOT to "play the/their game"! #2. You CAN "play", but you ALWAYS have the "option" to "make up" ANY "rules" you wish! Which puts the burden of CONTINUING the "game", squarely on the OTHER person's "shoulders"! IF you decide to "make up" your OWN "rules", you MUST be "prepared" for the "possibility" that the OTHER person MIGHT choose to STOP "playing", with YOU! So you have a "VALUE" JUDGMENT to make, BEFORE you "change" the "rules".

Personally, "I" SELDOM acceed to somebody else's "rules". I see NO REASON that MY "rules" aren't JUST AS "VALID", as yours/theirs! So "I" follow any "rules" "I" deem acceptable/appropriate, to the "game/situation". And, IF the other person decides THEY don't wanna "play by MY 'rules'", so be it! I'm PREPARED to accept that decision! But then, "I" don't CONCERN "myself" with ANYBODY'S "judgment" of me. Other than MY judgment, of myself. You're welcome to think/say ANYTHING about me. As long a "I" don't have ANY "problems" falling asleep, when "I" lay my head on my pillow, at night, I DON'T "CARE" WHAT "YOU" think! Of ME! But then, I've NEVER "pandered" to "public" opinion. I'm USED to "walking" my OWN path. Alone, or together, it DOESN'T "MATTER", to me! As long as "I" FEEL I'm being "true", to MY "self"! I'm NOT saying that I DON'T "enjoy" company! I DO! But I'm WILLING to "go it alone", IF I must! But my "SELF" is my PRIMARY concern! I DON'T think MY "path" is an "easy" one. Or that MOST people are 'READY/WILLING/ABLE" to walk such a "path". But, just because it's "hard", I DON'T "SEE" THAT, as SUFFICIENT "reason" for NOT walking it!

So "I" DISAGREE with your assertion that I "MUST" play the "game" according to "roles made up by someone else"!

Just MY "thoughts", about what you said. NOT "important", to anyone OTHER THAN "me". doh teddybear
Jan 7, 2018 5:41 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Saorstat
SaorstatSaorstatLongford, Ireland5 Threads 338 Posts
Deedee123x: Oi....watch it.

I dont judge appearances per say....but everyone has their preferences in who they are attracted to have they not??

Does that answer ur question....oh mighty one??


Now that's an answer,could've even cited evolution and I might've had to concede blues

....woz right though ,you are opinionated wink
Jan 7, 2018 5:46 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland72 Threads 6,050 Posts
Saorstat: Now that's an answer,could've even cited evolution and I might've had to concede

....woz right though ,you are opinionated


Yes SS ...yes i am...bouquet
Jan 7, 2018 5:49 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA12 Threads 2,269 Posts
Deedee123x: Where did i say we have "no control" over our acting on judgemrnts


I DIDN'T "say" that you said that I/you/we have "no control" over "our" actions, Dee! I "SAID" you IMPLIED that I/you/we have "NO CONTROL" over our "judgments"! Which, if you ask a psychologist to interpret your statement, they will AGREE that the "IMPLICATION" IS implicit IN your statement!

As I've said (MANY times), few people REALLY "know/understand" WHAT they're "saying", when/as they SAY it! You need to be a STUDENT of "language", to really "appreciate" that statement. Most people speak, WITHOUT "thinking" about what they're "saying". They're in TOO BIG of a "hurry" to get THEIR "point" across/on the table! (And "I" am JUST as "guilty" as everybody else.)

Just thought I ought to "clarify" what you THINK "I" said. Luv ya! professor hug teddybear
Jan 7, 2018 5:55 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Saorstat
SaorstatSaorstatLongford, Ireland5 Threads 338 Posts
Deedee123x: Yes SS ...yes i am...

Told you before, doc Walsh says your no allowed hurt my feelings. scold scold
Jan 7, 2018 6:05 PM CST …Do women want to be judged on their looks?
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland72 Threads 6,050 Posts
Saorstat: Told you before, doc Walsh says your no allowed hurt my feelings.


Well i suggest Doc Walsh put u on the pill....it helps with those big swings in moods n feelings from time to time.
Just be careful they tend to make the bobbies a bit tender!!

lips
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