The lack of mature adults, both male and female as opposed to being adult in western society & why. (65)
I agree with all you say, KN, except when I think of the people I come into contact with who appear to have little self-, or other-awareness. The ability to reflect on the issues you mentioned would be one of those resources I listed above which not all people have. I suspect it's that many people simply don't know how.
I agree the primary responsibility of raising a child is, and should be, with the parents, or guardians, but I'm not adverse to other tools which might help, rather than hinder.
For the time our children are in school, I believe the staff are in loco parentis. I sometimes found myself dismayed at the culture of school and what was being taught.
Personally, I'd like to see emotional development being tended to with as much focus as academic. It's an environment with a lot of interpersonal interaction and learning is best served by immediate, rather than delayed knowledge of results. It's an environment where the journey towards self-actualisation is ripe for the picking, and yet the fruit is largely left to rot. How can we expect maturity from young people under those circumstances?
How can we expect all parents to reflect upon their interpersonal relationships if they have no experience, or knowledge of that?
I agree the primary responsibility of raising a child is, and should be, with the parents, or guardians, but I'm not adverse to other tools which might help, rather than hinder.
For the time our children are in school, I believe the staff are in loco parentis. I sometimes found myself dismayed at the culture of school and what was being taught.
Personally, I'd like to see emotional development being tended to with as much focus as academic. It's an environment with a lot of interpersonal interaction and learning is best served by immediate, rather than delayed knowledge of results. It's an environment where the journey towards self-actualisation is ripe for the picking, and yet the fruit is largely left to rot. How can we expect maturity from young people under those circumstances?
How can we expect all parents to reflect upon their interpersonal relationships if they have no experience, or knowledge of that?
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GregKeegan: Prior to the industrial revolution and still held in many societies and tribal communities today,children at around about the age or puberty or just after, were taken by the adults of that society, male for boys and female for girls, and initiated into adulthood. After that ceremony, the participants were expected too and for the most part did, behave as adults within that society and took on the responsibilities of being adult without question. This is something we lost and now, kids seem to stumble into adulthood and somewhere between the age of 20 and 30, decide that they must be adult now because of their responsibilities and what life is to them but there is no defining moment where they are recognised amongst their peers as equals as adults and I think we need that, after all, it has been a part of mankind's, no offence ladies with calling it mankind, just a term, existence since long before recorded history. It is almost a genetic marker in the history of our species where our young step from childhood into adulthood and it has only been in the last couple of hundred or so years that this ritual has ceased to happen or in western or "Developed" countries and societies.
I've run out of characters, more to come in my next comment. :)
I've run out of characters, more to come in my next comment. :)
Collective ritual sacrifice is the binding ingredient. Equal adults together plus someone you all care about dies. It's not possible to move beyond youth without paying attention to death.
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ChesneyChrist: Collective ritual sacrifice is the binding ingredient. Equal adults together plus someone you all care about dies. It's not possible to move beyond youth without paying attention to death.
Morbid and mundane thing growing up, that's why I suspect people are rather bored with it.
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jac_the_gripper: ..........
I'm now making the first tentative steps towards a relationship with my two step-grandsons whilst awaiting the arrival of my biological grandson to whom I will be a grandparent, rather than a co-parent.
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I'm now making the first tentative steps towards a relationship with my two step-grandsons whilst awaiting the arrival of my biological grandson to whom I will be a grandparent, rather than a co-parent.
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Unless I've missed something, you sneaked that one in like a grandmaster.
Congrats for the young couple !
Peanut Mk2 on the way for Granny Gripper
Enjoy
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In more traditional societies and a lot of Asian countries, the old are both respected and valued as a important part of society and the upbringing of the young. Somewhere we have lost something as we no longer anchorage our young to spend a lot of time with these people or us for that matter as well and we are all missing out by shutting them away in homes and not gleaning every bit of wisdom from them that they are willing to share.
It is sad really.