Covert Narcissism — (99)

Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:09 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
Anyone ever known anyone else with serious acute Narcissism behavior? I do. Took awhile to figure out their behavior. Actions and words don’t match up. They are all alike. They can really mess with people, usually quietly over time. Relationships with them can truely be “psychological warfare.”

If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there..... laugh

Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:25 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
I dealt with this from my late husband.Everything is/was always everyone else's fault.Never his even if it was.

He saw himself as being a perfectionist and bragged about it too.frustrated
Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:27 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
Bearwoman: I dealt with this from my late husband.Everything is/was always everyone else's fault.Never his even if it was.

He saw himself as being a perfectionist and bragged about it too.


Other’s are always the Narcissist’s scapegoat. wave
Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:29 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
galrads: Other’s are always the Narcissist’s scapegoat.


Galards I know.wave
Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:38 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
Yeap Gal,
I have enough info about this subject (have watched that video before, agree it´s a good one) ...I´m fascinated reading these days (Quora has a lot of info about these individuals) from differences between very empathetic people & those who are in narcissist spectrum, how their approach to others has subtle differences most of the people don´t see and most of the time misunderstand (causing damage to the empathetic)...even very smart people find difficult to do that .....moping

I just HATE them, don´t care if we are talking about Malignant Narcissism (dark triad), Narcissistic traits or Narcissistic Personality Disorder....all of them are big pieces of shit without feelings who deserve to be in some island away from humanity.

....and they love virtual world professor

wave
Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:02 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
Crunia: Yeap Gal,
I have enough info about this subject (have watched that video before, agree it´s a good one) ...I´m fascinated reading these days (Quora has a lot of info about these individuals) from differences between very empathetic people & those who are in narcissist spectrum, how their approach to others has subtle differences most of the people don´t see and most of the time misunderstand (causing damage to the empathetic)...even very smart people find difficult to do that .....

I just HATE them, don´t care if we are talking about Malignant Narcissism (dark triad), Narcissistic traits or Narcissistic Personality Disorder....all of them are big pieces of shit laugh without feelings who deserve to be in some island away from humanity.

....and they love virtual world



Yeah, so true and I agree about that island. there is someone very close to me in my family that I was a narcissistic supplier for years. He’s an absolute kleptomaniac too on top of all that narcissism.


wave
Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:23 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
Narcissism is not curable, there is no medication to relieve symptoms, there is not a therapist that can provide assistance......so, what is it? It's not of this world, it's pure evil. In theory, a child ages 5-8 (developmental stage) is abused, now that can be physical, s*xual, mental or emotional abuse. At this point a break in the spirit (soul) occurs and allows a wicked spirit to enter. That's why there is nothing known to mankind that can offer relief, because it's not of this world, it is spiritual in nature.

When Jesus was casting evil spirits and demons from the population 2,000 yrs ago where are all those evil spirits today? They are called narcissist and are more abundant than anyone cares to estimate.

There are covert/overt/cerebral and somatic narcissist.......obviously the cerebral is the very smart narcissist and the somatic is the body narcissist (very s*xual). In any case they should all be avoided and applied a no contact rule.

Here is a google page of evil/demon narcissist. I do not believe they are demonically expressed, but as mentioned they are evil spirits...

Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:28 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland87 Threads 28,475 Posts
galrads: Anyone ever known anyone else with serious acute Narcissism behavior? I do. Took awhile to figure out their behavior. Actions and words don’t match up. They are all alike. They can really mess with people, usually quietly over time. Relationships with them can truely be “psychological warfare.”

If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....


A friend of mine had a close call with one recently.
She didn't know at the time that is what it was, but knew it wasn't normal.
She had a lucky escape. She got out before she was entangled in his world. Scary character.
Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:38 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
seaworthy: Narcissism is not curable, there is no medication to relieve symptoms, there is not a therapist that can provide assistance......so, what is it? It's not of this world, it's pure evil. In theory, a child ages 5-8 (developmental stage) is abused, now that can be physical, s*xual, mental or emotional abuse. At this point a break in the spirit (soul) occurs and allows a wicked spirit to enter. That's why there is nothing known to mankind that can offer relief, because it's not of this world, it is spiritual in nature.

When Jesus was casting evil spirits and demons from the population 2,000 yrs ago where are all those evil spirits today? They are called narcissist and are more abundant than anyone cares to estimate.

There are covert/overt/cerebral and somatic narcissist.......obviously the cerebral is the very smart narcissist and the somatic is the body narcissist (very s*xual). In any case they should all be avoided and applied a no contact rule.

Here is a google page of evil/demon narcissist. I do not believe they are demonically expressed, but as mentioned they are evil spirits...



That’s some scary info on narcissists demons in that google search wow thanks wave
Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:45 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
BerrySmoothieonline today!
BerrySmoothieonline today!BerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand5 Threads 5,343 Posts
galrads: Anyone ever known anyone else with serious acute Narcissism behavior? I do. Took awhile to figure out their behavior. Actions and words don’t match up. They are all alike. They can really mess with people, usually quietly over time. Relationships with them can truely be “psychological warfare.”

If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....


Yes.

It was sheer hell. Had never known or been involved with anyone like it previously.

Don't wish to discuss details, but it seriously damaged my children and me.

Its taken many years to heal.
Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:52 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
mollybaby: A friend of mine had a close call with one recently.
She didn't know at the time that is what it was, but knew it wasn't normal.
She had a lucky escape. She got out before she was entangled in his world. Scary character.


They are scary people. Glad your friend got out mollybaby! wave
Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:56 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
BerrySmoothie: Yes.

It was sheer hell. Had never known or been involved with anyone like it previously.

Don't wish to discuss details, but it seriously damaged my children and me.

Its taken many years to heal.


Sorry to hear about your terrible experience BerrySmoothie.....hug I hope this narcissist is not in and out of your lives any more... wave
Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:02 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
BerrySmoothieonline today!
BerrySmoothieonline today!BerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand5 Threads 5,343 Posts
galrads: Sorry to hear about your terrible experience BerrySmoothie..... I hope this narcissist is not in and out of your lives any more...


No. He's well gone Gal, thankfully....hug
Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:11 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
Innocentia00122
Innocentia00122Innocentia00122Osnabrück, Lower Saxony Germany3 Threads 842 Posts
There are different kinds of narcissists, and no narcissist is like the other.

I believe that people with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder experienced in their childhood a kind of abuse that forced them to cut a connection between empathy and compassion to survive their daily life.
We have in our brains a place where the empathy is located and a place where compassion is located. In my eyes the place for empathy is vivid in the brains of people with NPD, but not the one for compassion.

Yes, people with that disorder should be avoided because you can not change anything and you only get harmed again and again when you do not go away from them. Only very bright people with that disorder are able to talk about their disorder, and as I said, every narcissist is different, but I also think there is no possibility to change anything because to go through therapy (when they would make it to a therapist and go through a therapy) would mean in my personal opinion to take away everything from them that they are. They are their construct, their made-up construct, and they live in their made-up reality to which belongs also their personality. Treating the disorder means making disappear the whole personality. Everything that puts their reality in danger, the narcissist will always protect.
Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:16 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
why give it a fancy name.......when all it is .....is Manipulation......?????????confused
Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:29 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
Innocentia00122
Innocentia00122Innocentia00122Osnabrück, Lower Saxony Germany3 Threads 842 Posts
truheart1941: why give it a fancy name.......when all it is .....is Manipulation......?????????

truheart,
sometimes it is good that things have a name. For me it was good to be told what it is long ago because it is ill what these kind of people do with others. You are a dear, good person. You are something good for others. Someone with such a disorder lives from the feelings that they create in you through, as you say correctly, manipulating. The bad thing is that the whole life with them is manipulated and created. And you are humiliated in a very subtle way. If you try to break out of that there is revenge, fury, destruction of your life.
I do not say that with self-compassion or so, but you have to be smart and have a big backbone and learn and change yourself to not be available emotionally for such people any more.
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:22 PM CST Covert Narcissism —
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 854 Posts
galrads: Anyone ever known anyone else with serious acute Narcissism behavior? I do. Took awhile to figure out their behavior. Actions and words don’t match up. They are all alike. They can really mess with people, usually quietly over time. Relationships with them can truely be “psychological warfare.”

If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....



Yes. Over time, they were so dead set on trying to make others believe their lies and games that they finally buried themselves.

I didn't play the "game". I kept a great distance. Conversation and every thing else I could, were kept minimal. No psychological warfare. The less they had to work with for what they wanted, the more desperate they became to try and create it. One last day in court, it finally came to a head with one question and it all back fired on them.

I think most of us can spot deliberate actions of provocation, manipulation, and other general mind games. Don't play it with them. Step away and stay away. Just do what you can to safeguard yourself. There's a huge difference in having a partner and some one just for themselves at all costs.
Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:13 AM CST Covert Narcissism —
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK0 Threads 2,698 Posts
The country remaining forever blameless because you're able to protest what the government does. Conspiracy theories where you are making super important esoteric insight swhich in another way make something not at all your fault. That's covert narcissism. A country based on saying one thing and doing another.
Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:30 AM CST Covert Narcissism —
There is nothing covert about narcissists and they can be women too.
Narcisstic Personality Disorder
Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:39 AM CST Covert Narcissism —
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK0 Threads 2,698 Posts
ChesneyChrist: The country remaining forever blameless because you're able to protest what the government does. Conspiracy theories where you are making super important esoteric insight swhich in another way make something not at all your fault. That's covert narcissism. A country based on saying one thing and doing another.


The honest platforms which support Trump actively encourage narcissism and sociopathy in every respect, covert narcissism retains the shame of lying - that's why it pretends to be something it isn't - where Trump is to become truly shameless in your narcissism. Blaming someone else everytime evolving into complete indifference to responsiblity. The latest development of the American psyche.
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