Covert Narcissism — (69)
I dealt with this from my late husband.Everything is/was always everyone else's fault.Never his even if it was.
He saw himself as being a perfectionist and bragged about it too.
He saw himself as being a perfectionist and bragged about it too.
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Bearwoman: I dealt with this from my late husband.Everything is/was always everyone else's fault.Never his even if it was.
He saw himself as being a perfectionist and bragged about it too.
He saw himself as being a perfectionist and bragged about it too.
Other’s are always the Narcissist’s scapegoat.
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galrads: Other’s are always the Narcissist’s scapegoat.
Galards I know.
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galrads: Anyone ever known anyone else with serious acute Narcissism behavior? I do. Took awhile to figure out their behavior. Actions and words don’t match up. They are all alike. They can really mess with people, usually quietly over time. Relationships with them can truely be “psychological warfare.”
If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....
If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....
A friend of mine had a close call with one recently.
She didn't know at the time that is what it was, but knew it wasn't normal.
She had a lucky escape. She got out before she was entangled in his world. Scary character.
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galrads: Anyone ever known anyone else with serious acute Narcissism behavior? I do. Took awhile to figure out their behavior. Actions and words don’t match up. They are all alike. They can really mess with people, usually quietly over time. Relationships with them can truely be “psychological warfare.”
If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....
If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....
Yes.
It was sheer hell. Had never known or been involved with anyone like it previously.
Don't wish to discuss details, but it seriously damaged my children and me.
Its taken many years to heal.
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mollybaby: A friend of mine had a close call with one recently.
She didn't know at the time that is what it was, but knew it wasn't normal.
She had a lucky escape. She got out before she was entangled in his world. Scary character.
She didn't know at the time that is what it was, but knew it wasn't normal.
She had a lucky escape. She got out before she was entangled in his world. Scary character.
They are scary people. Glad your friend got out mollybaby!
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BerrySmoothie: Yes.
It was sheer hell. Had never known or been involved with anyone like it previously.
Don't wish to discuss details, but it seriously damaged my children and me.
Its taken many years to heal.
It was sheer hell. Had never known or been involved with anyone like it previously.
Don't wish to discuss details, but it seriously damaged my children and me.
Its taken many years to heal.
Sorry to hear about your terrible experience BerrySmoothie.....
I hope this narcissist is not in and out of your lives any more... ------ This thread is Archived ------
galrads: Sorry to hear about your terrible experience BerrySmoothie..... I hope this narcissist is not in and out of your lives any more...
No. He's well gone Gal, thankfully....
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why give it a fancy name.......when all it is .....is Manipulation......?????????
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truheart1941: why give it a fancy name.......when all it is .....is Manipulation......?????????
truheart,
sometimes it is good that things have a name. For me it was good to be told what it is long ago because it is ill what these kind of people do with others. You are a dear, good person. You are something good for others. Someone with such a disorder lives from the feelings that they create in you through, as you say correctly, manipulating. The bad thing is that the whole life with them is manipulated and created. And you are humiliated in a very subtle way. If you try to break out of that there is revenge, fury, destruction of your life.
I do not say that with self-compassion or so, but you have to be smart and have a big backbone and learn and change yourself to not be available emotionally for such people any more.
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galrads: Anyone ever known anyone else with serious acute Narcissism behavior? I do. Took awhile to figure out their behavior. Actions and words don’t match up. They are all alike. They can really mess with people, usually quietly over time. Relationships with them can truely be “psychological warfare.”
If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....
If yiu’re interested, here’s a good video with explanation and summary about Covert Narcissists. Worth a watch. Sorry if you can’t. They are out there.....
Yes. Over time, they were so dead set on trying to make others believe their lies and games that they finally buried themselves.
I didn't play the "game". I kept a great distance. Conversation and every thing else I could, were kept minimal. No psychological warfare. The less they had to work with for what they wanted, the more desperate they became to try and create it. One last day in court, it finally came to a head with one question and it all back fired on them.
I think most of us can spot deliberate actions of provocation, manipulation, and other general mind games. Don't play it with them. Step away and stay away. Just do what you can to safeguard yourself. There's a huge difference in having a partner and some one just for themselves at all costs.
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The country remaining forever blameless because you're able to protest what the government does. Conspiracy theories where you are making super important esoteric insight swhich in another way make something not at all your fault. That's covert narcissism. A country based on saying one thing and doing another.
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There is nothing covert about narcissists and they can be women too.
Narcisstic Personality Disorder
Narcisstic Personality Disorder
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ChesneyChrist: The country remaining forever blameless because you're able to protest what the government does. Conspiracy theories where you are making super important esoteric insight swhich in another way make something not at all your fault. That's covert narcissism. A country based on saying one thing and doing another.
The honest platforms which support Trump actively encourage narcissism and sociopathy in every respect, covert narcissism retains the shame of lying - that's why it pretends to be something it isn't - where Trump is to become truly shameless in your narcissism. Blaming someone else everytime evolving into complete indifference to responsiblity. The latest development of the American psyche.
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ChesneyChrist: The honest platforms which support Trump actively encourage narcissism and sociopathy in every respect, covert narcissism retains the shame of lying - that's why it pretends to be something it isn't - where Trump is to become truly shameless in your narcissism. Blaming someone else everytime evolving into complete indifference to responsiblity. The latest development of the American psyche.
When his supporters applaud Trump's honesty it's nothing to with telling the truth. It's about being openly bent(dishonest)in a way they themselves still try to hide.
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I once worked with someone who I perceived as having malignant narcissistic traits.
It strikes me there's a lot of media fueled melodrama surrounding this subject.
I didn't like him, but I didn't consider him evil, either. I had to maintain a professional relationship with him, but I wasn't obliged to have a personal relationship with him.
He appeared to have something(s) missing which affected his personal relationships. His empathy was centred around his own needs and didn't extend to others in any genuine, or meaningful way.
He appeared to be aware he was missing something at times, but the nature of having it missing meant he couldn't grasp what it was. This appeared to cause him some confusion and distress.
His coping strategy appeared to be the construction of a personality and life history for himself. It was false and inconsistent and gave the impression that he was a liar. I don't think lying was his primary goal, however. He appeared to be trying to make sense of his world, to fit in and gain approval. He had both a low self-esteem which need bolstering and an over-inflated self-esteem out of proportion with his actual achievements. It was as if he couldn't gauge anything interpersonal.
My knee jerk reaction to him was hostility as he could be quote nasty, but I had to engage with him as a colleague. I constantly tried to remind myself that to a large extent he couldn't help being a horrible person. I found socially engaging with him in snippets on neutral subjects (the weather, colour perception, spelling) the best way to negotiate the social difficulties.
I was careful not to give away personal details which he might use, but even then, things I said often would get absorbed into his personality almost to the point where he had my childbirth experience. It is difficult to gauge where the boundaries should be with someone so out of kilter with social norms.
I found him a rather sad creature, but I was rather relieved when I no longer had to work with him.
It strikes me there's a lot of media fueled melodrama surrounding this subject.
I didn't like him, but I didn't consider him evil, either. I had to maintain a professional relationship with him, but I wasn't obliged to have a personal relationship with him.
He appeared to have something(s) missing which affected his personal relationships. His empathy was centred around his own needs and didn't extend to others in any genuine, or meaningful way.
He appeared to be aware he was missing something at times, but the nature of having it missing meant he couldn't grasp what it was. This appeared to cause him some confusion and distress.
His coping strategy appeared to be the construction of a personality and life history for himself. It was false and inconsistent and gave the impression that he was a liar. I don't think lying was his primary goal, however. He appeared to be trying to make sense of his world, to fit in and gain approval. He had both a low self-esteem which need bolstering and an over-inflated self-esteem out of proportion with his actual achievements. It was as if he couldn't gauge anything interpersonal.
My knee jerk reaction to him was hostility as he could be quote nasty, but I had to engage with him as a colleague. I constantly tried to remind myself that to a large extent he couldn't help being a horrible person. I found socially engaging with him in snippets on neutral subjects (the weather, colour perception, spelling) the best way to negotiate the social difficulties.
I was careful not to give away personal details which he might use, but even then, things I said often would get absorbed into his personality almost to the point where he had my childbirth experience. It is difficult to gauge where the boundaries should be with someone so out of kilter with social norms.
I found him a rather sad creature, but I was rather relieved when I no longer had to work with him.
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jac_the_gripper: I once worked with someone who I perceived as having malignant narcissistic traits.
It strikes me there's a lot of media fueled melodrama surrounding this subject.
I didn't like him, but I didn't consider him evil, either. I had to maintain a professional relationship with him, but I wasn't obliged to have a personal relationship with him.
He appeared to have something(s) missing which affected his personal relationships. His empathy was centred around his own needs and didn't extend to others in any genuine, or meaningful way.
He appeared to be aware he was missing something at times, but the nature of having it missing meant he couldn't grasp what it was. This appeared to cause him some confusion and distress.
His coping strategy appeared to be the construction of a personality and life history for himself. It was false and inconsistent and gave the impression that he was a liar. I don't think lying was his primary goal, however. He appeared to be trying to make sense of his world, to fit in and gain approval. He had both a low self-esteem which need bolstering and an over-inflated self-esteem out of proportion with his actual achievements. It was as if he couldn't gauge anything interpersonal.
My knee jerk reaction to him was hostility as he could be quote nasty, but I had to engage with him as a colleague. I constantly tried to remind myself that to a large extent he couldn't help being a horrible person. I found socially engaging with him in snippets on neutral subjects (the weather, colour perception, spelling) the best way to negotiate the social difficulties.
I was careful not to give away personal details which he might use, but even then, things I said often would get absorbed into his personality almost to the point where he had my childbirth experience. It is difficult to gauge where the boundaries should be with someone so out of kilter with social norms.
I found him a rather sad creature, but I was rather relieved when I no longer had to work with him.
It strikes me there's a lot of media fueled melodrama surrounding this subject.
I didn't like him, but I didn't consider him evil, either. I had to maintain a professional relationship with him, but I wasn't obliged to have a personal relationship with him.
He appeared to have something(s) missing which affected his personal relationships. His empathy was centred around his own needs and didn't extend to others in any genuine, or meaningful way.
He appeared to be aware he was missing something at times, but the nature of having it missing meant he couldn't grasp what it was. This appeared to cause him some confusion and distress.
His coping strategy appeared to be the construction of a personality and life history for himself. It was false and inconsistent and gave the impression that he was a liar. I don't think lying was his primary goal, however. He appeared to be trying to make sense of his world, to fit in and gain approval. He had both a low self-esteem which need bolstering and an over-inflated self-esteem out of proportion with his actual achievements. It was as if he couldn't gauge anything interpersonal.
My knee jerk reaction to him was hostility as he could be quote nasty, but I had to engage with him as a colleague. I constantly tried to remind myself that to a large extent he couldn't help being a horrible person. I found socially engaging with him in snippets on neutral subjects (the weather, colour perception, spelling) the best way to negotiate the social difficulties.
I was careful not to give away personal details which he might use, but even then, things I said often would get absorbed into his personality almost to the point where he had my childbirth experience. It is difficult to gauge where the boundaries should be with someone so out of kilter with social norms.
I found him a rather sad creature, but I was rather relieved when I no longer had to work with him.
My work colleague sounds just like that. He knows me better according to him than I do myself.
He's left for a month in New Zealand, and not soon enough. The last two weeks was bad for my health.
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stephenbadger: We don't want him !!! ...fortunately our highly trained stasi immigration & customs border control pigs will smell a rat & throw him back, ggrrr
He goes to NZ regularly, and has family there. Ggrrr. How u like that ?
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galrads: Other’s are always the Narcissist’s scapegoat.
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