What A Waste Of Food! ( Archived) (35)

Feb 21, 2018 8:05 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
After finishing grocery shopping at my local (major) supermarket today, I happened to pass by the store's dumpster bin in which had been left open, and noticed what must of been many dozens of loaves of bread and rolls of various varieties inside. These were all close to the top of the bin, and so leaves to speculation what other items beneath had been disposed of as well ?. No doubt this sort of wastage is a regular occurrence with this supermarket as well as others throughout the land sigh
Like i'm sure in all countries, there's folk around who are battling to make ends meet for numerous reasons, and they would of gladly welcomed the opportunity of receiving free food ... or at least food that could be heavily reduced in price and made available for purchase instead of being thrown out as seems to of become the norm mumbling
This sort of sheer wastage by major supermarkets i find so very annoying and has put me off buying bread or rolls of any description at their regular prices ... or even slightly reduced prices come to that snooty

Does anybody else have any food wastage experiences that they would like to share with us ? conversing
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Feb 21, 2018 8:25 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
stephenbadger
stephenbadgerstephenbadgerHenderson, West Auckland, New Zealand25 Threads 376 Posts
l know somebody that made a key to fit the padlock on his local supermarket food bin 30 years ago & lives almost entirely on night-time food recovery raids.
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Feb 21, 2018 8:53 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
Many people on here have a lot of nasty things to say about America, but what you describe doesn't happen in this country. The way bread products, which are at, or very near their expiration dates are handled on this side of the globe is the bread delivery driver will pick up these expired products and return them to the warehouse where they will be sold at steep discounts in what are called "Outlet" stores which are attached to the warehouse. You can buy these products which are still fit for human consumption and you can even get bulk products in very large quantities for mere pennies on the dollar for feeding to livestock like chickens. I know this because I have been buying bulk bakery products for my chickens for years. I can fill up a stand up freezer for less than 10 US$. That's at least 50-75 loaves of bread. I haven't bought a loaf of bread at a supermarket for at least 5 years. Don't believe me?
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Feb 21, 2018 8:58 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
stephenbadger: l know somebody that made a key to fit the padlock on his local supermarket food bin 30 years ago & lives almost entirely on night-time food recovery raids.


There was a documentary on TV last year about groups of people who go out on late night supermarket bin raids, and some of the items they salvaged was incredible. Not just cheap groceries, but expensive items that were perfectly edible and still well within their use-by dates. Why the supermarkets didn't try making a little money from these unwanted items by putting them on sale, with the added advantage of attracting more shoppers to their store instead of losing out on possible sales dunno ... well, that's something only they can answer.
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Feb 21, 2018 10:10 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia64 Threads 11 Polls 6,818 Posts
There's a few issues at play here, and a lot of it is people's refusal to take personal responsibility. For example, somebody goes dumpster diving and ends up getting sick... They'll turn around and try to sue the shops for having their bins unlocked. Or they serve it to their friends who get sick, and then blame the brand of food causing reputational damage. When the shops heavily discounted stuff on saturday afternoon, knowing it wouldnt make it till monday, a lot of people only went saturday afternoon and there were physical altercations over it.

There are vans that collect excess produce to feed homeless people etc., helping them spend more money on alcohol and drugs and encouraging antisocial behaviour in parks.

Behind the scenes there's a lot of waste, like the recent pineapple glut. The price is so low it would cost the farmer to take them to market, and the juice company offers them less than the diesel would cost to deliver them, so they're left to rot in a pile.
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Feb 21, 2018 10:55 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
pat8lanips: There's a few issues at play here, and a lot of it is people's refusal to take personal responsibility. For example, somebody goes dumpster diving and ends up getting sick... They'll turn around and try to sue the shops for having their bins unlocked. Or they serve it to their friends who get sick, and then blame the brand of food causing reputational damage. When the shops heavily discounted stuff on saturday afternoon, knowing it wouldnt make it till monday, a lot of people only went saturday afternoon and there were physical altercations over it.

There are vans that collect excess produce to feed homeless people etc., helping them spend more money on alcohol and drugs and encouraging antisocial behaviour in parks.

Behind the scenes there's a lot of waste, like the recent pineapple glut. The price is so low it would cost the farmer to take them to market, and the juice company offers them less than the diesel would cost to deliver them, so they're left to rot in a pile.


You make some relevant points pat ... particularly in the case of those in the community who may use unscrupulous means to try and sue shops/manufacturers for injury or illness from the results of their dumpster raids.

Speaking of the recent pineapple glut you mention. To be honest, i never heard anything about that down here in Melbourne, but given the circumstances not surprised by the dumping sigh .
In recent times there's been a bit of a fuss made over slightly out of shaped fruits and vegetables that were being dumped in large numbers. Even though there was nothing at all wrong with them other than their shape. I believe there's efforts now being made in the food industry in addressing this issue so as to make use of these "odd" fruits and vegetables by making them available to shoppers at discounted prices...
We'll have to wait and see how that pans out playball
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Feb 21, 2018 11:46 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia64 Threads 11 Polls 6,818 Posts
They do it already here at woolies, marketing stuff as the odd bunch. I noticed it with carrots, and bought them instead. But one pack I bought had heaps of split ones, which I'd happily buy for juice but not roasting etc. so I went back to normal ones for now. I'm sure it will be a regular thing once they work it all out.

I did a season on the mangoes one year, I reckon for every one that ends up on a tray four are thrown away. If you have a contract with coles or woolies, they wont allow you to sell the rejects. this may have changed since then, I believe they no longer send produce down to Brisbane, only to be sent back through their distribution network.
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Feb 21, 2018 11:55 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
pat8lanips: They do it already here at woolies, marketing stuff as the odd bunch. I noticed it with carrots, and bought them instead. But one pack I bought had heaps of split ones, which I'd happily buy for juice but not roasting etc. so I went back to normal ones for now. I'm sure it will be a regular thing once they work it all out.

I did a season on the mangoes one year, I reckon for every one that ends up on a tray four are thrown away. If you have a contract with coles or woolies, they wont allow you to sell the rejects. this may have changed since then, I believe they no longer send produce down to Brisbane, only to be sent back through their distribution network.


Speaking of food I always thought your username was Parsnip giggle

I only noticed now laugh rolling on the floor laughing laugh
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Feb 22, 2018 12:06 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia64 Threads 11 Polls 6,818 Posts
Yeah I'm good with parsnip, nips, pat... somebody clever even called me spiney one time.
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Feb 22, 2018 12:18 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
laugh

Unfortunately I know all about nipplesblues
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Feb 22, 2018 12:27 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
There is food waste in the USA cause I've seen it. I've seen some stores mark down meats and packages of cut fruit but they are thrown out in the dumpters.
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Feb 22, 2018 12:28 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia64 Threads 11 Polls 6,818 Posts
Nipples are one of my favourite things in the whole world. I have a bird bath in my garden that I fill with milk each day to try and encourage them.
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Feb 22, 2018 12:34 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
Are you saying pour milk over myself and stand outside in a bird bath?laugh
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Feb 22, 2018 12:36 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia64 Threads 11 Polls 6,818 Posts
That'd work for me I reckon...
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Feb 22, 2018 12:37 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
You're all heart
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Feb 22, 2018 9:25 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
Mercedes_00: You're all heart
hijack Why don't you 2 take it to PM's instead of hijacking a good thread?
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Feb 22, 2018 9:34 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
Here, it is improving slowly but surely.

Firstly, they vastly reduce the price of some food items in the evening which would spoil soon, so that people can buy them cheaply for consumption that day,

Secondly, due to societal pressure, many of the big supermarkets now give good food, which would otherwise go to waste, to organisations which distribute them to charities to give to people who need the food.

see link for one of these organisations:
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Feb 22, 2018 10:02 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
mollybaby: Here, it is improving slowly but surely.

Firstly, they vastly reduce the price of some food items in the evening which would spoil soon, so that people can buy them cheaply for consumption that day,

Secondly, due to societal pressure, many of the big supermarkets now give good food, which would otherwise go to waste, to organisations which distribute them to charities to give to people who need the food.

see link for one of these organisations:


Good to see there are improvements happening there regarding the wastage situation molly thumbs up

There's sometimes been debates here about making better use of excess, waste and misshapen food items like fruit and vegetables, and although there are charities using donated foods to help feed the poor, there's obviously a lot more that can and should be done regarding this.
It's just so frustrating to know that there are millions in this world going hungry and yet this problem could be alleviated to a great extent with more efforts from our governments and world leaders.
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Feb 23, 2018 8:57 AM CST What A Waste Of Food!
Bearwoman: There is food waste in the USA cause I've seen it. I've seen some stores mark down meats and packages of cut fruit but they are thrown out in the dumpters.
they/govt.outlawed food to the homeless,etc.said it was a safety issues,hm.
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Feb 23, 2018 12:50 PM CST What A Waste Of Food!
Food waste isn't just about sell by, or use by dates.

Those dates are only valid if the food is kept in the correct conditions. For example, raw meat with three days on the date cannot be sold, or given away if it has gone over 8C. A piece of raw meat containing 3 e.Coli that is allowed to go over 8C for 10 minutes will end up with enough microbes to kill.

If you're going to go dumpster raiding, know your stuff about high risk foods, especially if you're feeding vulnerable people.

It takes a bit of funding and organisation to use waste food on a large scale. It needs to be transported under the correct conditions and then stored likewise.

We're beginning to see some changes here in the UK.

And I'm greatful for what my friend calls the 'nearly dead section' and supermarkets call 'still fresh' where goods near their dates are discounted. I eat well for that.
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