lots to say here. But perhaps the most important is the kids' welfare. In the best of circumstances, counseling can preserve the union, but when not, it will often enable loving coparenting in the context of resolved anger during and after separation. Sadly, more typical is the excessive drama, with denial, and even violent acting out. Even when not this, many parernts try to hide things until right up to when the moving truck pulls up outside. AS IF, almost no children have a clue, and suffer, sometimes life long. Aa-V.
Vierkaesehoch: lots to say here. But perhaps the most important is the kids' welfare. In the best of circumstances, counseling can preserve the union, but when not, it will often enable loving coparenting in the context of resolved anger during and after separation. Sadly, more typical is the excessive drama, with denial, and even violent acting out. Even when not this, many parernts try to hide things until right up to when the moving truck pulls up outside. AS IF, almost no children have a clue, and suffer, sometimes life long. Aa-V.
Just thinking n consider again, how both start getting together, how make you decide to marry, have second honeymoon, try try n try to safe it. For kids and for your love.
Most marriages begin to fail, when the groom says, "I do."
After that, half of everything he owned is often gone; and it goes downhill from there, until he's in debt, trying to pay of the wife and her lawyer...
Because, although it's not pc to say this; the average woman can't take care of herself, unless she has a man to help her, after they're divorced...
It's not pc to admit it; but that's the way the courts continually rule.
mykingdomforanam: Most marriages begin to fail, when the groom says, "I do."
After that, half of everything he owned is often gone; and it goes downhill from there, until he's in debt, trying to pay of the wife and her lawyer...
Because, although it's not pc to say this; the average woman can't take care of herself, unless she has a man to help her, after they're divorced...
It's not pc to admit it; but that's the way the courts continually rule.
You is angry. You has issues. I know a Jesus who can love all of that outta ya.
Vierkaesehoch: lots to say here. But perhaps the most important is the kids' welfare. In the best of circumstances, counseling can preserve the union, but when not, it will often enable loving coparenting in the context of resolved anger during and after separation. Sadly, more typical is the excessive drama, with denial, and even violent acting out. Even when not this, many parernts try to hide things until right up to when the moving truck pulls up outside. AS IF, almost no children have a clue, and suffer, sometimes life long. Aa-V.
You've are obviously an expert on divorce. Hardly inspiring to potential partners!!
serene56: Oh cmon, he only gives it to those who can flick it right back at him
There is no 'system', we're all individual grown-up people hence we have the choice to respond, or not.
Serene. I like you...have no reason not to.
But look at it from mercedes point of view. You and john and a few others are clearly friends offline....thats not an issue...but the issue is when someone who provokes and pokes until someone is at breaking point is not entertainment....if it is to you then so be it.
I do like John too..ive learnt to understand and enjoy some of his humour...but he gets into one of his little moods and everyone is fair game.
What i find is once a member here has steady back up they can pretty much get away with any behaviour because they always have their cheerleaders.
I can mess and joke ...but John has a tendency to get nasty. He just said on another thread to Mercedes that "alot of members have warned him abt her in the past'.. Is that funny?? Is it necessary?? Is it relevant to the thread?
As i said..i do like u and John..but ffs give us a break here.
Mercedes_00: I know he's a troll but the thing is throw a pebble at me I will return a boulder.
Even I tell my mates to pull their heads in on other forums mate or no mate.
Thats what ive admired about u Mer. U say it as it is. I wouldnt want u backing me up if u thiught i was acting lousy...which i have on many an ocassion.
Deedee123x: Thats what ive admired about u Mer. U say it as it is. I wouldnt want u backing me up if u thiught i was acting lousy...which i have on many an ocassion.
To each their own i guess.
Sorry OP too for hijack
Yeah a real mate will tell you how it is even if you don't want to hear it.
I loath gossip that is so not in my DNA.
Crazyblondeone and I have known each other for close to 12 years or more speak on the phone have shared so much together she isn't into being close to a troll so there goes their theory.
Let them have their little gossip behind the scenes it's all they have.
KremaP: Let people talk for themselves Mercedes...
I agree wherever they post I will make sure to find another thread let them troll eachother because let's face it in the real world they wouldn't even dare say BOO to me I can guarantee you that.
Vierkaesehoch: lots to say here. But perhaps the most important is the kids' welfare. In the best of circumstances, counseling can preserve the union, but when not, it will often enable loving coparenting in the context of resolved anger during and after separation. Sadly, more typical is the excessive drama, with denial, and even violent acting out. Even when not this, many parernts try to hide things until right up to when the moving truck pulls up outside. AS IF, almost no children have a clue, and suffer, sometimes life long. Aa-V.
Thanks, all. Over two dozen ad hominem posts, all skirting the valid and important issue, until the penultimate note, one where begrudgingly (?), child welfare is mentioned. Powerfully makes my point. People who avoid gravitating toward sensible solutions to severe interpersonal problems, such as professional counseling, as a group, respond to any such suggestions as we see here. There's defensiveness, denial, misunderstanding, fear, and so on. While I worked with many such folks, we had a saying. Can't help 'em if they won't let you see 'em. When the parents have the sense and courage to get help, it often can make a world of difference. Wise choices sometimes correlate highly with class and social economic status. Like boulders? How's them for boulders? Aa-V.
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