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Mar 19, 2018 7:35 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
...before you demand the best for yourself?~
~Epictetus

What does this quote mean to you?
How do you demand the best for yourself?
Why?

And why does modern society not permit us to do this?
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Mar 19, 2018 7:52 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
DoubleFantasy
DoubleFantasyDoubleFantasyLondon, Greater London, England UK562 Posts
Kaylana04: ...before you demand the best for yourself?~
~Epictetus

What does this quote mean to you?
How do you demand the best for yourself?
Why?

And why does modern society not permit us to do this?


I believe in keeping an even keel - is important

The story of the tortoise and hare comes to mindbouquet
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Mar 19, 2018 8:07 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
TokyoRogue
TokyoRogueTokyoRoguePerth, Western Australia Australia2 Threads 242 Posts
"Eventually" is a very under rated and under used word. I'm obviously doing my best in my previous post to bring it back to its halcyon days of use. laugh
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Mar 19, 2018 8:20 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
TokyoRogue: It's my experience society isn't to blame for you not demanding the best for your self at all, you are!
...I eventually realized my delusion of being a victim to then demand the best for myself eventually kicking the junk and going on to develop the well rounded, charismatic, desirable individual I am today.

Society does permit you to demand the best for your self, you just need find the courage to understand it.


Excellent point and I thank you for replying!

Stories, that reveal another facet, help to connect us. They change us. I'm grateful you shared.

I understand the victimhood mentality.
I was looking for explanations as to why people belittle themselves... I can't quite find the right words right now....
It's the idea that it's 'bad' to demand the best for yourself.
Ideas?
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Mar 19, 2018 8:27 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
Kaylana04: ...before you demand the best for yourself?~
~Epictetus

What does this quote mean to you?
How do you demand the best for yourself?
Why?

And why does modern society not permit us to do this?

I know that this may look as a very deep thought yet, its completely illogical ...
Fist of all, Life shouldn`t be a competition

Best of what? Smokes,drinks ,partner ,inner peace ,car,house...
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Mar 19, 2018 8:29 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
MsContessa
MsContessaMsContessaMayo, Ireland24 Threads 1,227 Posts
Kaylana04: ...before you demand the best for yourself?~
~Epictetus

What does this quote mean to you?
How do you demand the best for yourself?
Why?

And why does modern society not permit us to do this?


Similar to meeting the message of your quote:

I encourage others to create an
“I love Me” mirror,
which is actually inscribed into the top of the Mirror.
On the bottom of the mirror is inscribed....

“Deep within me there is an infinite source of love,
ideas, inspiration, creativity and purpose.
I just need to have the courage to look within.”

If you say it often enough it will give you the courage to demand, of you, the best for yourself.....

bouquet
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Mar 19, 2018 9:35 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland69 Threads 4,795 Posts
MsContessa: Similar to meeting the message of your quote:

I encourage others to create an
“I love Me” mirror,
which is actually inscribed into the top of the Mirror.
On the bottom of the mirror is inscribed....

“Deep within me there is an infinite source of love,
ideas, inspiration, creativity and purpose.
I just need to have the courage to look within.”

If you say it often enough it will give you the courage to demand, of you, the best for yourself.....


I love thatthumbs up
You need to post here more often.....ok..maybe I need u to post here more often.

One question though...what would you suggest happens to the ones who think too highly of themselves and think they do no wrong and are always right??
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Mar 19, 2018 11:56 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Kaylana04: ...before you demand the best for yourself?~
~Epictetus

What does this quote mean to you?
How do you demand the best for yourself?
Why?

And why does modern society not permit us to do this?


To rise up and overcome tremendous odds, I believe he's talking about heroism. But I don't believe modern society has the oppression, misery or danger to permit a great many heroes. The age simply isn't dark enough.
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Mar 19, 2018 11:58 AM CST How long are you going to wait...
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Kaylana04: Epictetus was a Greek Stoic Philosopher c. AD 55-135.

What word would you suggest instead of "demand"?



Was he on CS too rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 19, 2018 12:01 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
Deedee123x:
One question though...what would you suggest happens to the ones who think too highly of themselves and think they do no wrong and are always right??


Arrogance is the word that comes to mind.
"Too highly" would be a comparison with another standard, be it higher or lower than the other party.

I'm pondering: Where is the balance between sacrifice, self-inflicted suffering (as taught in most religions) and the ability to enjoy 'the best' in life without feeling guilty?
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Mar 19, 2018 12:07 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Kaylana04: Epictetus was a Greek Stoic Philosopher c. AD 55-135.

What word would you suggest instead of "demand"?




Does it matter what I am going to replace the word "demand" with...?!
I said what I think, no need to dig in a place where there's nothing hidden to be found...
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Mar 19, 2018 12:07 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
Car54
Car54Car54Noneya, Luxembourg Belgium4 Threads 378 Posts
Kaylana04: ...before you demand the best for yourself?~
~Epictetus

What does this quote mean to you?
How do you demand the best for yourself?
Why?

And why does modern society not permit us to do this?


To me it means to never settle for less.
I demand the best by trying to be in the right place at the right time or informing myself on my options and how to get it.
Why? Because I try to never settle for less if I can help it.
This modern society does permit us to demand the best, just as long as we're willing to not settle for less.
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Mar 19, 2018 12:08 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Lookin4missright: Was he on CS too





You have to ask Conrad, lub... laugh
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Mar 19, 2018 12:15 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
KremaP: You have to ask Conrad, lub...



or Mr Tru laugh giggle ...........................................super

Have a bewt day spunkybum hug lips wave
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Mar 19, 2018 12:18 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Lookin4missright: or Mr Tru ...........................................

Have a bewt day spunkybum






It's evening here, lub...
Have a lovely day!
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Mar 19, 2018 1:46 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Lookin4missright: Was he on CS too



No he wasn't on CS.
but he tried to teach some primative European ethnic groups,during his time.-


handshake
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Mar 19, 2018 2:08 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
MsContessa: Similar to meeting the message of your quote:

I encourage others to create an
“I love Me” mirror,
which is actually inscribed into the top of the Mirror.
On the bottom of the mirror is inscribed....

“Deep within me there is an infinite source of love,
ideas, inspiration, creativity and purpose.
I just need to have the courage to look within.”

If you say it often enough it will give you the courage to demand, of you, the best for yourself.....


ahhh....heck!
i used a black sharpie..... laugh

i used to put messages on my bathroom mirror, and change them from time to time. i haven't for quite some time now.

last sharpie message was, 'i am'. after a few months, i cleaned it off.
but i think it's a good idea. i learned it from 'mind valley' speaker.
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Mar 19, 2018 2:14 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Kaylana04: ...before you demand the best for yourself?~
~Epictetus

What does this quote mean to you?
How do you demand the best for yourself?
Why?

And why does modern society not permit us to do this?


hiya,

i'm not into 'demands' but i think one can easily realize Epictetus probably wasn't using modern english. laugh

so i'm not into demands as they sound too much like ultimatums to me. i am into trying to be conscious, observe, and be respectful and accepting of myself and others.
i don't always get what i want...but i have been having an amazing, very blessed life.

having said that.... i do want a deck...., and some new furniture, and...and...and...
laugh

oh...okay.....


and world peace.
grin
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Mar 19, 2018 2:16 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
all we really have is this moment.

pitty to waste it waiting.....

wine
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Mar 19, 2018 2:19 PM CST How long are you going to wait...
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
jono7: ..


and world peace.


Jono, are you going for Miss World? laugh
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