Anyone remember this guy? Jacob "Jack" Kevorkian was an American pathologist and euthanasia proponent. He is best known for publicly championing a terminal patient's right to die via physician-assisted suicide; he claimed to have assisted at least 130 patients to that end.
Bearwoman: Anyone remember this guy? Jacob "Jack" Kevorkian was an American pathologist and euthanasia proponent. He is best known for publicly championing a terminal patient's right to die via physician-assisted suicide; he claimed to have assisted at least 130 patients to that end.
Yeah, he was a blessing for those who he helped. Didn’t he operate in Michigan, primarily?
galrads: Yeah, he was a blessing for those who he helped. Didn’t he operate in Michigan, primarily?
Hi galards I do believe so.But here's some background info on where he was born etc.
Born: May 26, 1928, Pontiac, MI Died: June 3, 2011, Beaumont Hospital - Royal Oak, Royal Oak, MI Cause of death: Thrombosis Buried: June 10, 2011, White Chapel Memorial Cemetery, Troy, MI
galrads: Should a person who is suffering from a terminal illness be able to end their life?
I say yes. I’d love to read anyone’s your opinions of this issue.
With new cures coming out daily, they must first investigate that.
If they don't have the money to spend, they will just take the easy way out, and all avenues must first be investigated before, a drastic step like that, but who will pay for the expenses?
Else giving them a painless lethal injection, is acceptable.
It is their lives, and they can make the decision to end it, no-one else, that wants to inherit, or get rid of the burden.
If I was terminal and was going to die anyway I should be able to end my suffering and not be a burden on my adult sons.The doctors take the the Hipocratic Oath First we do no harm.so they should assist their patients in dying if that is their wish to do so.
galrads: Should a person who is suffering from a terminal illness be able to end their life?
I say yes. I’d love to read anyone’s your opinions of this issue.
I believe once you lose your quality of life and are unable to care for yourself and become a burden on your family or society or both as long as you are of sound mind you should be able to make a decisions of that nature on your own without government interference. I don't consider it much different than a loved one pulling the plug on someone who is declared brain dead I have seen to many people stripped of their pride at the end of their lives. It is really sad
galrads: Oh I didn’t give a very good picture of what was going on in the balcony. It wasn’t suicide. My cleaning lady was just tired of hearing me complain, she lost her balance and accidentally shoved me off the balcony. My arm twisted off right about then.
My dear, u obviously have no idea, how the body is put together, Ur arm will Not just twist off, it is connected by Very Strong Muscles, a hatchet would do the trick.
Happygolucky4u: I believe once you lose your quality of life and are unable to care for yourself and become a burden on your family or society or both as long as you are of sound mind you should be able to make a decisions of that nature on your own without government interference. I don't consider it much different than a loved one pulling the plug on someone who is declared brain dead I have seen to many people stripped of their pride at the end of their lives. It is really sad
Hey, happygolucky4you..
I just read where “Euthanasia is illegal in most of the United States. Physician aid in dying (PAD), or assisted suicide, is legal in the states of Washington DC, California, Colorado, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington; its status is disputed in Montana.”
I think there should be a federal law, if possible, that penalizes States which do not provide or allow Physician Aid in Suicide.
to be honest gal/ pulling the plug off the life line from someone you love dearly.....is one of the hardest things to do....even knowing their in pain......in hope that tomorrow. there is a solution......
truheart1941: to be honest gal/ pulling the plug off the life line from someone you love dearly.....is one of the hardest things to do....even knowing their in pain......in hope that tomorrow. there is a solution......
Sounds like you may have experienced that circumstance with someone, true. I gave a Do Not Resussitate order for my wife who was terminaly from cancer in 2002. After months of unsuccessful trials and treatments we moved her from a hospital on my 50th birthday to a hospice service where I also stayed. She passed the following day.
galrads: Sounds like you may have experienced that circumstance with someone, true. I gave a Do Not Resussitate order for my wife who was terminaly from cancer in 2002. After months of unsuccessful trials and treatments we moved her from a hospital on my 50th birthday to a hospice service where I also stayed. She passed the following day.
There is no end of people who insist on telling you how to live and they will tell you how you should die also. If you are terminally ill then you should have the right to end it and not suffer or be a burden on your family. I knew someone dying of cancer and was embroiled in the controversy of taking opioid painkillers to ease the suffering. So what if he would get addicted. He didn't last that long anyway.
All the nutters and self-righteous people will tell you that " Jesus saves ". So why can't he save us from those people?
bigjb62: You don't have to be terminal to be in so much pain that dying is the better than living in pain for the rest ones life. There was a time in my life where I was suffering for 15 years from a ruptured disc in my neck. Unfortunately for me physical therapy and the wimpy pain meds I was given did nothing for me and the Doctors didn't take it seriously. Two times during that 15 years I was in so much pain I wanted to die. The first time it lasted 2 months and I barley got through it. The second time after ten weeks of suffering I attempted suicide. Even though I didn't have a terminal problem the main reason I tried to take my life was because after trying to get help and failing to get it I saw no reason to go on if I was going to have to continue suffering. Fortunately after that my Doctor took it seriously and I finally got the surgery that I should have gotten years earlier. I'm not condoning suicide in every case, but I do think if you're going to be in extreme pain for the remainder of your life no matter how long that my be, suicide should be a viable option. I do think that if you are suffering and want to check out then it shouldn't be an easy thing to do. There should be a process that has to be gone through where you need to show that your prognosis is such that your quality of life would be worse then continuing with to live.
And who would sets the criteria to determine whether a person in pain is allowed to die, as they might wish, or live. It’s going to be someone whose never experienced unrelenting pain. That person setting the criteria, well, It’s like going to a priest for marriage counseling. Imho
galrads: And who would sets the criteria to determine whether a person in pain is allowed to die, as they might wish, or live. It’s going to be someone whose never experienced unrelenting pain. That person setting the criteria, well, It’s like going to a priest for marriage counseling. Imho
There is plenty of medical knowledge that could help determine what types of illness/conditions that could fit the criteria. Obviously that would have to be agreed upon. But who, is a tough call, but I see no reason for it not to include those who have been dealing with terminal cases & pain management. One of my points is it needs to be something that isn't easy, and is setup to weed out mental illness or conditions that can be treated or managed. One thing it should never be used for, is a way to deny health services for people with expensive & hard to treat illness just to save money. And since we are not in a perfect world it probably would.
bigjb62: There is plenty of medical knowledge that could help determine what types of illness/conditions that could fit the criteria. Obviously that would have to be agreed upon. But who, is a tough call, but I see no reason for it not to include those who have been dealing with terminal cases & pain management. One of my points is it needs to be something that isn't easy, and is setup to weed out mental illness or conditions that can be treated or managed. One thing it should never be used for, is a way to deny health services for people with expensive & hard to treat illness just to save money. And since we are not in a perfect world it probably would.
Yep, they don’t call Medical practice ‘practice’ for nothing. Nah, i think too many people have suffered needlessly because of either religious beliefs or the money made in medical ‘practice.’ People living here today who have long used pain medications for legitimate reasons are being weaned from it to suffer because of the greed of doctors pushing pain meds on others who didn’t need it. This country alone makes enough bad judgements regarding people, look how badly we treat our homeless veterans but treat illegals far far better.
galrads: And who would sets the criteria to determine whether a person in pain is allowed to die, as they might wish, or live. It’s going to be someone whose never experienced unrelenting pain. That person setting the criteria, well, It’s like going to a priest for marriage counseling. Imho
drs.do it now n along time w/ morphine drip or death will get u nurses get tired of the yelling of the ones not at peace,ill take some demerol let her rip.
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I say yes. I’d love to read anyone’s your opinions of this issue.