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Apr 1, 2018 7:35 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
The Biggest Mistake you can make in life is being offended.
"You hurt my feelings!!"

It is based upon egotism and wrong beliefs.(I don't deserve it. It's not fair. etc...)
"Emotions aren't random. They follow from beliefs."

We always want to punish the 'offender' - not realizing the damage we are creating by being 'offended'.

Was the offense truly directed at you? or are you merely a party who was involved against your choice?
Is revenge the best route to go? If so, what is gained by it?

And as for 'hurt feelings' - can you show me the injury? It's about as absurd as 'saving electricity' ...Can you show me the saved amount?

Being offended consumes so much of our internal energy. It turns us into negative people that others don't want to be around.

Not to mention, that when we hold it as a threat over other people, absurd governments write lengthy documents about how to not offend people.
It's called Political Correctness.

We need to grow up and take responsibility for our own actions and reactions and stop being offended.


peace
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Apr 1, 2018 7:45 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
Pushing a sharp pencil up your nose
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Apr 1, 2018 8:08 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
Bnaughty: Pushing a sharp pencil up your nose

It's true that some might find that act offensive, but I for one say it's your own choice. peace
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Apr 1, 2018 8:22 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Kaylana04: It's true that some might find that act offensive, but I for one say it's your own choice.
...I dont make mistakes.........snooty snooty snooty grin wave
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Apr 1, 2018 8:22 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
Kaylana04: It's true that some might find that act offensive, but I for one say it's your own choice.

That´s debatable, school bullies are known for pushing pencils up the noses of smaller kids just for fun
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Apr 1, 2018 8:35 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Kaylana04: The Biggest Mistake you can make in life is being offended.
"You hurt my feelings!!"

It is based upon egotism and wrong beliefs.(I don't deserve it. It's not fair. etc...)
"Emotions aren't random. They follow from beliefs."

We always want to punish the 'offender' - not realizing the damage we are creating by being 'offended'.

Was the offense truly directed at you? or are you merely a party who was involved against your choice?
Is revenge the best route to go? If so, what is gained by it?

And as for 'hurt feelings' - can you show me the injury? It's about as absurd as 'saving electricity' ...Can you show me the saved amount?

Being offended consumes so much of our internal energy. It turns us into negative people that others don't want to be around.

Not to mention, that when we hold it as a threat over other people, absurd governments write lengthy documents about how to not offend people.
It's called Political Correctness.

We need to grow up and take responsibility for our own actions and reactions and stop being offended.
Wow, there is so much there, I can't respond to each statement.
So... We can not control other people, we can only control how we react to them.
I don't think reactions are necessarily negative or wrong think, or a punishment.
People have boundaries, so do laws and countries. If any of that is broken or crossed, there should be consequences. Even toddlers have to learn this to live in a society.
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Apr 1, 2018 8:54 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
CossackCat: Wow, there is so much there, I can't respond to each statement.
So... We can not control other people, we can only control how we react to them.
I don't think reactions are necessarily negative or wrong think, or a punishment.
People have boundaries, so do laws and countries. If any of that is broken or crossed, there should be consequences. Even toddlers have to learn this to live in a society.
killarys islam PC is bad for all/agree!
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Apr 1, 2018 9:09 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
I thought the biggest mistake you could make was to super glue your a**hole shut and drink a bunch of laxatives
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Apr 1, 2018 9:33 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Grouchyoldfart
GrouchyoldfartGrouchyoldfartSan Juan, Puerto Rico156 Posts
It is only a crime when it happens to you . To everyone else it is just " life ".
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Apr 1, 2018 9:33 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Inthewoods
InthewoodsInthewoodsColorado Springs, Colorado USA9,896 Posts
1 Tailgating a Policeman.

2 Having a picnic in the mountains without bear repellent.
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Apr 1, 2018 9:42 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
So, if I'm offended by the torture and execution of children, it's based on egotism and false beliefs?

I shouldn't protest, or take any action with intent to stop the torture and execution of children?

I shouldn't acknowledge my offended thoughts or feelings, or indeed feel offended at all?

Healthy repression and oppression all round, eh?
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Apr 1, 2018 9:46 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
The Biggest Mistake you can make is... Not trusting your gut feeling
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Apr 1, 2018 9:47 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
jac_the_gripper: So, if I'm offended by the torture and execution of children, it's based on egotism and false beliefs?

I shouldn't protest, or take any action with intent to stop the torture and execution of children?

I shouldn't acknowledge my offended thoughts or feelings, or indeed feel offended at all?

Healthy repression and oppression all round, eh?


You have a way with words

kiss
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Apr 1, 2018 10:10 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Aquarius4You
Aquarius4YouAquarius4YouChampallement, Bourgogne-Franche-Comte France28 Posts
Kaylana04: The Biggest Mistake you can make in life is being offended.
"You hurt my feelings!!"

It is based upon egotism and wrong beliefs.(I don't deserve it. It's not fair. etc...)
"Emotions aren't random. They follow from beliefs."

We always want to punish the 'offender' - not realizing the damage we are creating by being 'offended'.

Was the offense truly directed at you? or are you merely a party who was involved against your choice?
Is revenge the best route to go? If so, what is gained by it?

And as for 'hurt feelings' - can you show me the injury? It's about as absurd as 'saving electricity' ...Can you show me the saved amount?

Being offended consumes so much of our internal energy. It turns us into negative people that others don't want to be around.

Not to mention, that when we hold it as a threat over other people, absurd governments write lengthy documents about how to not offend people.
It's called Political Correctness.

We need to grow up and take responsibility for our own actions and reactions and stop being offended.
thumbs up
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Apr 1, 2018 10:36 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
Kaylana04: The Biggest Mistake you can make in life is being offended.
"You hurt my feelings!!"

It is based upon egotism and wrong beliefs.(I don't deserve it. It's not fair. etc...)
"Emotions aren't random. They follow from beliefs."

We always want to punish the 'offender' - not realizing the damage we are creating by being 'offended'.

Was the offense truly directed at you? or are you merely a party who was involved against your choice?
Is revenge the best route to go? If so, what is gained by it?

And as for 'hurt feelings' - can you show me the injury? It's about as absurd as 'saving electricity' ...Can you show me the saved amount?

Being offended consumes so much of our internal energy. It turns us into negative people that others don't want to be around.

Not to mention, that when we hold it as a threat over other people, absurd governments write lengthy documents about how to not offend people.
It's called Political Correctness.

We need to grow up and take responsibility for our own actions and reactions and stop being offended.


doh KL, can you PLEASE tell WHY you're hell bent of trying to educate people - WHO AREN'T interested in LEARNING anything? As a PROFESSIONAL teacher, I'd had thought you would have learned the FUTILITY of THAT, by now! I'm SURE you're familiar with the old saw, "There are none so blind s they who will not see." I AGREE with it. But those who "will not see" don't piss me off as MUCH as those who "DON'T WANNA LOOK/SEE". And there IS a difference! I'm NOT naming names! I'm BEING as "nice" as I LIABLE to be. But I AM a little surprised, at you! doh confused hug teddybear elephant
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Apr 1, 2018 11:14 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
jac_the_gripper: So, if I'm offended by the torture and execution of children, it's based on egotism and false beliefs?

I shouldn't protest, or take any action with intent to stop the torture and execution of children?

I shouldn't acknowledge my offended thoughts or feelings, or indeed feel offended at all?

Healthy repression and oppression all round, eh?


There's a DIFFERENCE between "being offended/taking umbrage", Jac, and responding to "CRIMES"! professor Taking umbrage/being offended is a response to somebody's THINKING! Whereas responding to somebody's ACTIONS (torture and execution of children) is a WHOLE DIFFERENT question of "morality"! I (AND KL, I think) aren't implying that WRONG ACTION should NOT be dealt with, in and by WHATEVER MEANS are open and necessary! But that "FEELING" offended is a useless, pointless exercise in DOING nothing - of benefit to yourself, OR others! You WISH TO ACT on YOUR "morality", that's your right! NO! Your OBLIGATION! But you're CHOOSING to ACT, in re: an ACT! Being offended/taking umbrage is NOT an "ACT"! It's a "feeling" - that MAY stimulate an action - but ABSENT that "ACTION" is COMPLETELY pointless and a waste of time and energy! And repression/oppression IS NOT an automatically incorporated/promoted aspect of NOT "taking offense/umbrage" at something one MIGHT "feel" offended by! scold There's the old saying, "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death, your right to say it!". I THINK/FEEL it applies, in THIS case! But defending a person's right to SAY something, is a FAR CRY from defending his right to DO something! Again, Jac, a difference between thought/speech, and action! "Offense" (in this case - UMBRAGE) at the spoken word, is NOT benefiting ANYONE! IF a spoken word "offends" you, then SPEAK UP/SUPPORT a different "view". If an ACT offgends you, then ACT against it! IF somebody ACTS, and YOU COUNTERACT, THAT IS entirely different than "feeling - without acting"! The "offense" that KL is speaking on, is the "feeling" that is ONLY "internalized"! Whereas YOU are addressing "EXTERNALIZED" offense. Two DIFFERENT things! handshake hug teddybear
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Apr 1, 2018 11:22 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
A pupil cannot learn from a teacher who assumes the pupil is privy to the teacher's thoughts.

A pupil cannot learn if essential information is withheld.

A pupil can only learn from logical fallacy by challenge.
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Apr 1, 2018 11:23 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
A pupil cannot learn from a teacher who assumes the pupil is privy to the teacher's thoughts.

A pupil cannot learn if essential information is withheld.

A pupil can only learn from logical fallacy by challenge.
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Apr 1, 2018 11:30 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
((Jac's message came through twice...I've seen that happen with other posters. Anyone know why this happens?))
Let_Us, I hope you saw my response on the previous page.
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Apr 1, 2018 11:58 AM CST The Biggest Mistake you can make is...
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
jac_the_gripper: A pupil cannot learn from a teacher who assumes the pupil is privy to the teacher's thoughts.

A pupil cannot learn if essential information is withheld.

A pupil can only learn from logical fallacy by challenge.


#1. You're ONLY "a pupil" in the sense that WE'RE ALL "pupils" of LIFE, Jac! YOU are FAR from ignorant, or insensitive!

#2. You're RIGHT! ALL pertinent information SHOULD BE incorporated in life's lessons! And IT IS! But SOMETIMES, it left to US perceive/interpret/recognize/understand the "information" that IS "available", to us! Learning to divine the UNSPOKEN/UNOBVIOUS IS an essential to the "learning" process. If you CAN'T "see" beyond what IS presented, you'll NEVER learn MORE that what you're "taught"!

#3. Logic is NOT the ONLY modality of learning/knowledge! And challenge is the ONLY path that CAN BE taken!

But, AT LEAST YOU, are engaged in thinking (which IS more than MOST can say, I think)! Which I APPLAUD! applause cheering thumbs up head banger banana hug peace teddybear
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