ChesneyChrist: It depends whether you're talking specialisation or life in general. Einstein was a brilliant physicist but not a very wise man. The problem with being the upper crust in talent, money or brains is not really understanding the people who aren't this.
Einstein was a hardline socialist because he assumed intelligence in other people. Progressives very often and in differing ways ask too much of mankind because they lack wisdom. A society can be somewhat socialist on the condition that it is relatively intelligent, sophisticated and homogenous. Diversity and teach the world to sing, however, are the unwise bit. This is one example of intelligent people assuming intelligence in people who are not. Wise socialists know that the common good requires people to have things in common, and not just any old common, a higher grade of common. In addition to a culture of strong fellow-feeling the average IQ of the nation needs to be 95 at the least or nothing socialist will work.
I feel that intellect/genius itself has a tenuous grasp on reality and that's how it discovers the new. For the purpose of discovery wisdom is a bad thing and i believe that's part of the reason why the Chinese threw Confucius and Taoism in the bin. They threw away the wise stagnancy of old asia.
At least initially. Wisdom comes into play when you need to apply new knowledge to an old reality, wisdom prevents you from losing yourself and your society in the pursuit of progress. Confucius and Taoism are coming back now that China is making its mark on the world, it seeks to acclimatise itself psychologically to their new position of power and this requires stability.
Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK2,330 posts
ChesneyChrist: It depends whether you're talking specialisation or life in general. Einstein was a brilliant physicist but not a very wise man. The problem with being the upper crust in talent, money or brains is not really understanding the people who aren't this.
Einstein was a hardline socialist because he assumed intelligence in other people. Progressives very often and in differing ways ask too much of mankind because they lack wisdom. A society can be somewhat socialist on the condition that it is relatively intelligent, sophisticated and homogenous. Diversity and teach the world to sing, however, are the unwise bit. This is one example of intelligent people assuming intelligence in people who are not. Wise socialists know that the common good requires people to have things in common, and not just any old common, a higher grade of common. In addition to a culture of strong fellow-feeling the average IQ of the nation needs to be 95 at the least or nothing socialist will work.
ChesneyChrist: I feel that intellect/genius itself has a tenuous grasp on reality and that's how it discovers the new. For the purpose of discovery wisdom is a bad thing and i believe that's part of the reason why the Chinese threw Confucius and Taoism in the bin. They threw away the wise stagnancy of old asia.
At least initially. Wisdom comes into play when you need to apply new knowledge to an old reality, wisdom prevents you from losing yourself and your society in the pursuit of progress. Confucius and Taoism are coming back now that China is making its mark on the world, it seeks to acclimatise itself psychologically to their new position of power and this requires stability.
Kind of the reverse of what's happening in America where you see a postmodern president retreating into the methods of the past. The irony of Trump conservatism is that he's nothing like a wise old man. Where China is arriving at Confucious mixed with roads that charge your car whilst you drive, America has found itself with postmodernism mixed with coal mines. One side is combining classic wisdom with modern science and the other side combines modern dumbing down with the methods of the past.
ChesneyChrist: I feel that intellect/genius itself has a tenuous grasp on reality and that's how it discovers the new. For the purpose of discovery wisdom is a bad thing and i believe that's part of the reason why the Chinese threw Confucius and Taoism in the bin. They threw away the wise stagnancy of old asia.
At least initially. Wisdom comes into play when you need to apply new knowledge to an old reality, wisdom prevents you from losing yourself and your society in the pursuit of progress. Confucius and Taoism are coming back now that China is making its mark on the world, it seeks to acclimatise itself psychologically to their new position of power and this requires stability.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt - that's a wise saying.
But if you lived by that saying all the time it'd be no good for brainstorming, learning or the free exchange of ideas. To discover anything new you have to be open to looking like a fool, in a weird way brainiacs are like thugs in the sense that part of their job description is looking ridiculous.
Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK2,330 posts
Intelligence is a good thing, but wisdom well that is an acquired taste dependent what life has taught you.
Observation of your environment is both. No offence to Chesney he reminds me of a time I once wanted an intelligent debate on a forum. Wisdom taught me that it's rare. Intellect, reminds me it's still something I enjoy reading.
Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK2,330 posts
One2note: Exactly! A bird is safe in the nest, but that's not what wings were made for!
I don't believe that, you are putting your own value on love, I put value on me and those who I share life with by character and personality. If you base it on who loves you, then you are saying that people who have no-one are worthless. There are people like that in the world. Where loved ones have died, or the elderly who have no relatives or family.
Wings were made to have courage, not based on love.
There is one thing that's being left out in this discussion. It's common sense. Without it you won't be able to utilize your intelligence to it's fullest, and you won't gain as much usable experience.
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Einstein was a hardline socialist because he assumed intelligence in other people. Progressives very often and in differing ways ask too much of mankind because they lack wisdom. A society can be somewhat socialist on the condition that it is relatively intelligent, sophisticated and homogenous. Diversity and teach the world to sing, however, are the unwise bit. This is one example of intelligent people assuming intelligence in people who are not. Wise socialists know that the common good requires people to have things in common, and not just any old common, a higher grade of common. In addition to a culture of strong fellow-feeling the average IQ of the nation needs to be 95 at the least or nothing socialist will work.
I feel that intellect/genius itself has a tenuous grasp on reality and that's how it discovers the new. For the purpose of discovery wisdom is a bad thing and i believe that's part of the reason why the Chinese threw Confucius and Taoism in the bin. They threw away the wise stagnancy of old asia.
At least initially. Wisdom comes into play when you need to apply new knowledge to an old reality, wisdom prevents you from losing yourself and your society in the pursuit of progress. Confucius and Taoism are coming back now that China is making its mark on the world, it seeks to acclimatise itself psychologically to their new position of power and this requires stability.