THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF ( Archived) (59)

Apr 18, 2018 3:45 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,428 Posts
One2note: Are we going shopping or something
Nope

No need to flatter yourself.
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Apr 18, 2018 3:49 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
One2note: That's fine!
I'll bring my own tea bag if you're gonna be that tight!
English tea uh oh
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Apr 18, 2018 3:50 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Mercedes_00: Nope

No need to flatter yourself.
hi yer blossom.....wanna quickie.....batting batting grin
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Apr 18, 2018 3:53 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,428 Posts
truheart1941: hi yer blossom.....wanna quickie.....
I don't have indigestion sweet pea
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Apr 18, 2018 4:00 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Mercedes_00: I don't have indigestion sweet pea
..glad to hear.......why do you fart then.....does that give you added lift in the gym......dunno hmmm talk to hand giggle giggle giggle
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Apr 18, 2018 8:02 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
Juliette45: Too many times we are misunderstood in life. Sometimes, at the core, is absolute insecurity (usually on a subliminal level), but there - nonetheless. I would love to hear all points of view on this....male and female.
How many of you need to have alcohol on board to interact with a 'potential' partner?....Just to come across as "normal" to get through the first stages of dating......
Particularly interested in hearing from artist' experience.....but welcome all......
I don't need alcohol or any other substance to interact with someone else. If that's a requirement, at this time of my life, I am out, because it means that there are nothing else to talk about. That does not mean I will not enjoy drinking. I do and I will..

Regarding "Oneself", if we don't like how our hair looks, we get a haircut- . We have to do the same with everything else . We have to figure out exactly what we don't like about ourselves, fix them, and move on - to live life. this is the approach that is working best for me.


wine
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Apr 18, 2018 8:57 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
Im still me when I drink...just a funnier version....no I don't need alcohol....but it sure is fun to have a few drinks and some laughs....idea
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Apr 19, 2018 10:38 AM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
SweetnFunnyChic
SweetnFunnyChicSweetnFunnyChicSharjah, United Arab Emirates10 Threads 5 Polls 374 Posts
I am myself on dates.....I don't drink at all so don't need alcohol to interact with someone...I speak my mind and I find men from my culture can't handle that they want a girl who will agree with whatever they say and have no opinion or challenge them...that's their problem....Dating can be tough but with the right person its great.
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Apr 19, 2018 10:52 AM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Bearwoman
BearwomanBearwomanNorthgate, Ohio USA9 Threads 3,267 Posts
Julieette45,There have been times throughout my life in attempting to have a adult civilized conversation with the some men that I felt like drinking during or after.giggle
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Apr 19, 2018 12:19 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
Juliette45: Too many times we are misunderstood in life. Sometimes, at the core, is absolute insecurity (usually on a subliminal level), but there - nonetheless. I would love to hear all points of view on this....male and female.
How many of you need to have alcohol on board to interact with a 'potential' partner?....Just to come across as "normal" to get through the first stages of dating......
Particularly interested in hearing from artist' experience.....but welcome all......
It seems your thread has become a discussion of alcohol, that "social lubricant", Juliette. Whereas I THOUGHT your intent/desire was a discussion of "insecurity".

You open with the statement, "Too many times we are misunderstood in life." I have SOMETHING of a problem WITH that statement. confused MY thoughts run more to "WHEN are we EVER "UNDERSTOOD", in life?" Now, PLEASE, don't get me wrong! I understand/perceive the import of your statement, as well as its relationship to "insecurity". And I CAN'T speak for anyone ELSE, but THIS is the way "I" see it. (And I might mention that I AM an artist-ic/creative person, since you expressed a desire for thoughts of such.)

We ALL have a desire to BE "understood"! But it's INHERENT, in the nature of language, that the words that we use to communicate, have as many "meanings", as the people hearing those words. (AS language is an avocation of mine, being a writer, amongst other things, I've "studied" language for a number of years.) And, since it's INHERENT that words MEAN different things, to different people, the desire/hope/EXPECTATION that we'll BE understood, is just that! A desire/hope/EXPECTATION! And, as an expectation, can/will lead only to disappointment. TO desire/hope/expect that one WILL BE "understood", is silly/foolish. But, we're inculcated with the IDEA that language IS the method of communicating, from birth. And, as the old saying goes, "Hope springs eternal!" It's "human nature" to "hope/desire/expect". And it's this desire/hope/expectation from which our "insecurity" springs. We're "insecure" (about being understood), because our experiences have taught us that we WON'T be! The FACT that we are EVER understood IS more amazing, than the FACT that we USUALLY aren't!

But, IF your concern is the insecurity engendered by the failures of communication, then there IS a "quick fix"! STOP EXPECTING to be understood, and you'll eliminate the insecurities of BEING misunderstood! It's the EXPECTATION of being understood, that leads to our disappointment! And thus, our insecurity(s).

"I", personally, am one of the LEAST "insecure", or insecure FEELING individuals you're likely to bump into. Why? Because #1. I've LONG SINCE accepted my death! Death IS our birthright! It is/was the ONE THING we were ALL guaranteed, on the day we came into the world. So I look at, deal with, walk through life AS IF I were ALREADY dead! So NONE of the "stuff" that happens to me, WHILE I STILL live, is perceived as of LASTING importance. Life, and EVERYTHING that occurs IN/DURING it, is transient. The old saying, "This, TOO, shall pass." #2. Being "insecure" is SOLELY a response to our expectations. We FEEL insecure, because we HAVE expectations (about our "futures"). So, to the degree possible (for ME), I've eliminated expectations from my life. The less expectations I have, the less insecurity I have. I'm NOT saying that I NEVER have any "anxiety" (ANOTHER word for insecurity)! But I recognise them for what they are. And AM (pretty much) able to "dismiss" them.

There's a lot of other things I COULD say, but I'm running out of space. And most people who read this stuff, don't have the interest or attention span, to read THIS much. So, IF you have a desire/need to read more, let me know. handshake wave hug
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Apr 19, 2018 12:23 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Bearwoman
BearwomanBearwomanNorthgate, Ohio USA9 Threads 3,267 Posts
Let_Us: It seems your thread has become a discussion of alcohol, that "social lubricant", Juliette. Whereas I THOUGHT your intent/desire was a discussion of "insecurity".

You open with the statement, "Too many times we are misunderstood in life." I have SOMETHING of a problem WITH that statement. MY thoughts run more to "WHEN are we EVER "UNDERSTOOD", in life?" Now, PLEASE, don't get me wrong! I understand/perceive the import of your statement, as well as its relationship to "insecurity". And I CAN'T speak for anyone ELSE, but THIS is the way "I" see it. (And I might mention that I AM an artist-ic/creative person, since you expressed a desire for thoughts of such.)

We ALL have a desire to BE "understood"! But it's INHERENT, in the nature of language, that the words that we use to communicate, have as many "meanings", as the people hearing those words. (AS language is an avocation of mine, being a writer, amongst other things, I've "studied" language for a number of years.) And, since it's INHERENT that words MEAN different things, to different people, the desire/hope/EXPECTATION that we'll BE understood, is just that! A desire/hope/EXPECTATION! And, as an expectation, can/will lead only to disappointment. TO desire/hope/expect that one WILL BE "understood", is silly/foolish. But, we're inculcated with the IDEA that language IS the method of communicating, from birth. And, as the old saying goes, "Hope springs eternal!" It's "human nature" to "hope/desire/expect". And it's this desire/hope/expectation from which our "insecurity" springs. We're "insecure" (about being understood), because our experiences have taught us that we WON'T be! The FACT that we are EVER understood IS more amazing, than the FACT that we USUALLY aren't!

But, IF your concern is the insecurity engendered by the failures of communication, then there IS a "quick fix"! STOP EXPECTING to be understood, and you'll eliminate the insecurities of BEING misunderstood! It's the EXPECTATION of being understood, that leads to our disappointment! And thus, our insecurity(s).

"I", personally, am one of the LEAST "insecure", or insecure FEELING individuals you're likely to bump into. Why? Because #1. I've LONG SINCE accepted my death! Death IS our birthright! It is/was the ONE THING we were ALL guaranteed, on the day we came into the world. So I look at, deal with, walk through life AS IF I were ALREADY dead! So NONE of the "stuff" that happens to me, WHILE I STILL live, is perceived as of LASTING importance. Life, and EVERYTHING that occurs IN/DURING it, is transient. The old saying, "This, TOO, shall pass." #2. Being "insecure" is SOLELY a response to our expectations. We FEEL insecure, because we HAVE expectations (about our "futures"). So, to the degree possible (for ME), I've eliminated expectations from my life. The less expectations I have, the less insecurity I have. I'm NOT saying that I NEVER have any "anxiety" (ANOTHER word for insecurity)! But I recognise them for what they are. And AM (pretty much) able to "dismiss" them.

There's a lot of other things I COULD say, but I'm running out of space. And most people who read this stuff, don't have the interest or attention span, to read THIS much. So, IF you have a desire/need to read more, let me know.
Hello Let_Us First off I've never touched a drop of alcohol,2nd I can tell that at times you have been misunderstood by many and even I've been guilty of that myself.wave
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Apr 19, 2018 4:19 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
Bearwoman: Hello Let_Us First off I've never touched a drop of alcohol,2nd I can tell that at times you have been misunderstood by many and even I've been guilty of that myself.
Why - Thank you, BW! I THINK that's the FIRST time you've come CLOSE to complimenting me! I'm somewhat surprised, but sincere in my esteem. wow hug yay peace
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Apr 19, 2018 4:28 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Bearwoman
BearwomanBearwomanNorthgate, Ohio USA9 Threads 3,267 Posts
Let_Us: Why - Thank you, BW! I THINK that's the FIRST time you've come CLOSE to complimenting me! I'm somewhat surprised, but sincere in my esteem.
Let_Us Welcome. I don't usually give someone a compliment unless I really and truly mean.thumbs up wave
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Apr 19, 2018 5:22 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Juliette45
Juliette45Juliette45dublin, Kerry Ireland5 Threads 16 Posts
This is the response I love the most ...xx
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Apr 19, 2018 5:28 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Bearwoman
BearwomanBearwomanNorthgate, Ohio USA9 Threads 3,267 Posts
Juliette45: This is the response I love the most ...xx
What response would that be?
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Apr 19, 2018 5:34 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Juliette45
Juliette45Juliette45dublin, Kerry Ireland5 Threads 16 Posts
Wow.....thank you so much for your response...I've come home tonight (with a few on board), so I absolutely want to give you respect, & answer when completely sober, & when I can fully digest your comment!! But this is what I love & mean....challenges...deeper thinking ...more people like you x
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Apr 19, 2018 5:38 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Juliette45
Juliette45Juliette45dublin, Kerry Ireland5 Threads 16 Posts
Sorry Bearwoman....been a very long time since I was in forum....on a crappy phone.. Will respond when I figure it out... :-)
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Apr 19, 2018 5:56 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Bearwoman
BearwomanBearwomanNorthgate, Ohio USA9 Threads 3,267 Posts
Juliette45: Sorry Bearwoman....been a very long time since I was in forum....on a crappy phone.. Will respond when I figure it out... :-)
That's ok.handshake
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Apr 19, 2018 10:19 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,428 Posts
I once had two conversations by phone seemed like two different people I now realise that first call he wasn't sober which was the call I found him easy to talk too he seemed relaxed compared to the sober call he seemed very um um um.
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Apr 19, 2018 10:21 PM CST THE INABILITY TO BE ONESELF
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
At this stage of my life im all about fun so come on over and bring your 12 pack and lets get to know each other......applause
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