Hoarding ( Archived) (42)

May 12, 2018 7:30 AM CST Hoarding
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
serene56: During the course of my work in mental health, I've become fascinated by hoarding disorder

So far, I've discovered that it's often associated with people who live with schizophrenia, depression or can be a disorder completely within itself

Does anyone have any information to share with me on this?
Well I see it as clingy behaviour but it’s for inanimate objects.

And what makes people clingy? Loss, insecurity.
What makes people love stuff more than people? Abandonment, rejection.
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May 12, 2018 11:35 AM CST Hoarding
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
serene56: During the course of my work in mental health, I've become fascinated by hoarding disorder

So far, I've discovered that it's often associated with people who live with schizophrenia, depression or can be a disorder completely within itself

Does anyone have any information to share with me on this?
Hey Serene...wave

I've often watched in horror how people can be completely caught up in this disorder.....we have a TV programme, currently running, which features aspects of hoarding and how people deal with having a "clean out"

I'm a self-confessed sentimental hoarder.....mainly my kid's stuff.....though have had a big clean up recently. I offloaded boxes of it(from the garage) for them to sort out. Happy to say my house is now hoard-free.
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May 12, 2018 11:47 AM CST Hoarding
marlindaponline today!
marlindaponline today!marlindapClearwater, British Columbia Canada581 Posts
I would also think it could come from someone who was really poor at one time, so they hoard things in case one day they would be afraid they could not afford to buy it.
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May 12, 2018 12:09 PM CST Hoarding
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Loneliness is one of the main factors for hoarding to occur...
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May 12, 2018 2:34 PM CST Hoarding
Packersbabe1
Packersbabe1Packersbabe1Green Bay, Wisconsin USA3 Threads 16,508 Posts
johnjjm: maybe were all hoarders of a kind whose to say its to much or to little and I suppose we all keep all kinds of items we never use



No, I have nothing that I’m hoarding with
everything is neat and tidy
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May 12, 2018 5:49 PM CST Hoarding
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
They use stuff to fill a hole that was created usually by something traumatic like a loss of some kind...there is always a trigger point....by filling their world with stuff it fills some kind of psychological need that is why it creates soooooo much anxiety letting it all go...unless they deal with the trigger and original trauma they are likely to continue to hoard......beer
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May 12, 2018 6:45 PM CST Hoarding
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
In my opinion it depends what folks are hoarding. You might have a house full of antique motorbikes, or full of empty milk bottles, newspapers etc. But thats a subjective judgement really.

I reckon they collect a certain amount of things, feeling reassured by its presence/stability, and then realise they're overwhelmed by all the junk. But by then they may feel threatened by radical change.
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May 13, 2018 1:12 AM CST Hoarding
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
Everyone has their own theories on hoarding.
I've watched programmes on the mental issues involved , but it may just be as simple as people who don't want to let go of the past.
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May 13, 2018 1:20 AM CST Hoarding
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
pKrema: Loneliness is one of the main factors for hoarding to occur...
Not my guess but what psychology says on the matter, loneliness is a factor for quite a few mental problems...
This place must be full of them...hoarders... uh oh
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May 13, 2018 1:37 PM CST Hoarding
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
Note Well: I do not have an issue with excessive hoarding....professor

My sentimental hoarding extends to 3-4 boxes lined up against the garage wall.

Ok....maybe about 6....no more.

Just wanted to clarify.....laugh
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May 13, 2018 2:13 PM CST Hoarding
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Note Well: I do not have an issue with excessive hoarding....

My sentimental hoarding extends to 3-4 boxes lined up against the garage wall.

Ok....maybe about 6....no more.

Just wanted to clarify.....
Yep, sometimes it's hard to let go of anything that has sentimental value and why should we anyway if we take comfort in having them. I too have kept many things for that very reason and I suspect a lot of other people do too. Not sure that would be classified as being a hoarder. laugh
Happy Mother's Day Berry teddybear
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May 13, 2018 4:48 PM CST Hoarding
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
2intrigued: Yep, sometimes it's hard to let go of anything that has sentimental value and why should we anyway if we take comfort in having them. I too have kept many things for that very reason and I suspect a lot of other people do too. Not sure that would be classified as being a hoarder.
Happy Mother's Day Berry
Thanks Deb.

,,,,and a Happy Mothers Day to you too.....bouquet

My kids call me the "hoarder from hell"

It's simply not true....doesn't every mother save all art pictures they drew? sigh laugh
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May 14, 2018 3:06 AM CST Hoarding
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,954 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Well I see it as clingy behaviour but it’s for inanimate objects.

And what makes people clingy? Loss, insecurity.
What makes people love stuff more than people? Abandonment, rejection.
You may be onto something there.
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May 14, 2018 3:08 AM CST Hoarding
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,954 Posts
M4_Mischief: They use stuff to fill a hole that was created usually by something traumatic like a loss of some kind...there is always a trigger point....by filling their world with stuff it fills some kind of psychological need that is why it creates soooooo much anxiety letting it all go...unless they deal with the trigger and original trauma they are likely to continue to hoard......
This is how I understand it conversing
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May 14, 2018 3:10 AM CST Hoarding
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,954 Posts
pat8lanips: In my opinion it depends what folks are hoarding. You might have a house full of antique motorbikes, or full of empty milk bottles, newspapers etc. But thats a subjective judgement really.

I reckon they collect a certain amount of things, feeling reassured by its presence/stability, and then realise they're overwhelmed by all the junk. But by then they may feel threatened by radical change.
This too thumbs up
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May 14, 2018 3:11 AM CST Hoarding
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,954 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Hey Serene...

I've often watched in horror how people can be completely caught up in this disorder.....we have a TV programme, currently running, which features aspects of hoarding and how people deal with having a "clean out"

I'm a self-confessed sentimental hoarder.....mainly my kid's stuff.....though have had a big clean up recently. I offloaded boxes of it(from the garage) for them to sort out. Happy to say my house is now hoard-free.
wave hug
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May 14, 2018 3:23 AM CST Hoarding
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,954 Posts
Packersbabe1: No, I have nothing that I’m hoarding with
everything is neat and tidy
I've pondered on whether the fact that I'm a minimalist triggered my fascination with this issue conversing but I don't think so

One thing I've discovered is that some who hoard, to the extent that they have piles of stuff surrounding them, come to a point that they don't actually notice it conversing

Those layers of stuff become 'walls', reducing their living space but otherwise just part of the architecture of their home conversing

Strangely, in visiting my lady, I've adjusted to this also and simply take my spot on the sofa (the only vacant space available) and chat away quite comfortably confused
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May 14, 2018 3:31 AM CST Hoarding
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,954 Posts
I know she finds it distressing though, embarrassing also blues

And it's this that has triggered my interest, to try to understand how those who are affected by this issue can be assisted and supported to find some relief.
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May 14, 2018 11:56 AM CST Hoarding
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Well I see it as clingy behaviour but it’s for inanimate objects.

And what makes people clingy? Loss, insecurity.
What makes people love stuff more than people? Abandonment, rejection.
The Ebenezer Scrooge type of hoarding.


I also wonder if new wealth plays a role in the clutter. You might cling to your possessions when your background is Pakistan or you're old enough to remember rationing.
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May 14, 2018 12:13 PM CST Hoarding
ChesneyChrist: The Ebenezer Scrooge type of hoarding.


I also wonder if new wealth plays a role in the clutter. You might cling to your possessions when your background is Pakistan or you're old enough to remember rationing.
story man? why do you not reply to anyone?
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