Science Vs Religion: will science eventually prove or disprove religion? (116)
galrads: Religion is based on authority. Science is based on observation.
your opinions please.....
Authority? To a degree I agree. Based on the fact the Bible was on the basis of control. Like laws are today. your opinions please.....
But Science does have facts. Religion is to me no different than a non fiction book(Not meaning to offend)
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galrads: Religion is based on authority. Science is based on observation.
your opinions please.....
Avoiding controversy, as usual, Galrads.your opinions please.....
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Scientists discovered that everything we see, taste, touch, smell, and hear in our universe is made from things they cannot see...
The Bible told us that 2,000 years ago.
Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
The Bible told us that 2,000 years ago.
Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
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You don’t need to prove or disprove religion it’s about asserting yourself through force of will or having somebody assert you through the force of theirs.
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galrads: Religion is based on authority. Science is based on observation.
your opinions please.....
Considering that there is at the least, archeological backing, with history, to support the bible where science has nothing to support any type of "evolution", I'd have to say God will win out. your opinions please.....
Even what we know about the universe other than some things that MIGHT be more obvious, according to science, is speculation.
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Draegoneer: Considering that there is at the least, archeological backing, with history, to support the bible where science has nothing to support any type of "evolution", I'd have to say God will win out.
Even what we know about the universe other than some things that MIGHT be more obvious, according to science, is speculation.
Even what we know about the universe other than some things that MIGHT be more obvious, according to science, is speculation.
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Religion relies on folks believing stuff, science relies on folks proving or disproving stuff.
You cant prove or disprove what other folks believe.
So no, the versus idea is a nonsense as one side is faith and the other is logic. They're completely unrelated concepts.
You cant prove or disprove what other folks believe.
So no, the versus idea is a nonsense as one side is faith and the other is logic. They're completely unrelated concepts.
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Scientists taught us the sun goes around the earth.
Then scientists taught us that the sun is stationary, and the earth revolves around the sun.
3,000 years ago, the Bible taught us that the sun orbits heaven.
Psalms 19:1, 6 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
Scientists recently figured out, that what The Bible told us 3,000 years ago is right!
- in fact, our whole solar system - orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. We are moving at an average velocity of 828,000 km/hr. But even at that high rate, it still takes us about 230 million years to make one complete orbit around the Milky Way!
Then scientists taught us that the sun is stationary, and the earth revolves around the sun.
3,000 years ago, the Bible taught us that the sun orbits heaven.
Psalms 19:1, 6 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
Scientists recently figured out, that what The Bible told us 3,000 years ago is right!
- in fact, our whole solar system - orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. We are moving at an average velocity of 828,000 km/hr. But even at that high rate, it still takes us about 230 million years to make one complete orbit around the Milky Way!
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A little over 100 years ago scientists claimed they had invented a new telescope that proved The Bible was wrong.
It was headline news that scientists proved there were 1,156 stars in the sky; and claims in The Bible that the stars could not be numbered were ridiculous!
Genesis 15:5
And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
Scientists only recently discovered that The Bible was correct about how many stars there are, close to 4,000 years ago.
It was headline news that scientists proved there were 1,156 stars in the sky; and claims in The Bible that the stars could not be numbered were ridiculous!
Genesis 15:5
And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.
Scientists only recently discovered that The Bible was correct about how many stars there are, close to 4,000 years ago.
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galrads: Religion is based on authority. Science is based on observation.
your opinions please.....
Science change constantly.your opinions please.....
Religion will always be there,
As people will always find something,
To hold onto,
They have to,
To survive.
(generally something not explained by science yet, but it will evolve)
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galrads: Yeah, the Bible also says God said from the beginning ... be fruitful and multiply .... populate the earth. ..... so, how many people are obeying this commandment?
That's exactly why i don't pull out a verse out of context. People do not read everything,
Which is wrong.
The Bible is a storybook, telling about prophets.
Revelation depicts the future,
Like Nostradamus,
But it's best to notice as it happens,
Than predict all sorts of other things,
U might think is connected.
Read a separate book in the Bible in context,
Think about it,
And do the next book.
I studied the St. James version.
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galrads: That’s your way for interpreting the Bible. We are no longer under the Mosaic law today but it still applies for many believers. I’ve never read the st James version. Try reading the Jehovah’s Witnesses version if you’re so inclined and you will learn that Jesus Christ is not God, but Michael the Angel. Christ died on a steak, not a cross and the Holy Spirit is like electric current powering people.
Explain all the different religions,All have only One God,
Even tho they will deny it.
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galrads: Religion is based on authority. Science is based on observation.
your opinions please.....
Science will disprove the strict interpretation of the Bible and the other holy books, but most consider them allegorical anyway. If you write something with a grease pencil or a spray can of paint, it's unlikely to be clear. Look at the men God used to write the Bible.your opinions please.....
Religion will reshape its "interpretations" to match science.
OTH some theologians got it right. They had long anticipated the concept of the solid state universe--creation didn't occur, the universe is just dependent on God. God can't change so time does not affect him so time is part of the universe not part of God. Quantum Mechanics and it's chaos not withstanding, God does not play dice. Science will eventually overcome its own errors.
Answer: Both religion and science will change so much that both current versions will be disproven.
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galrads: Religion is based on authority. Science is based on observation.
your opinions please.....
Here, let me change that a bit for you...your opinions please.....
> Religions are based on the authority of a God. Science is based on observations made by mankind. <
I'm a medical research scientist specialising in innate and adaptive immunity, along with repair of damaged DNA and RNA. I'm also a Christian, so I have a foot in both camps
The Christian Bible (New Testament) contains the most profound scientific observation that I've ever set my eyes on in relation to the healing of diseases in mankind. So God is also an observer, just as mankind is and published his findings in that authoritative
scientific journal, The Holy Bible. My team is wrapping up the initial research project on this and will be unleashing its peer reviewed findings on an unsuspecting world within 12 months.
We're very excited! That said, the Bible only gave us part of the manufacturing process for this new medicine and no clues as to what it may, or may not heal. We had to figure that out ourselves 
I can tell that many of you CS bloggers have a direct phone line to God, so could one of you please point out to her that she wasn't very fair to do that. Anyways, the way I see it is that the science taught in the Bible (in this case), is demonstrated by mankind to be factually correct and therefore proof of the Biblical truths.
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In spite of the fact that some so-called scientists think they can prove there is no God; and have blind superstitious faith in theories that they've never even attempted to duplicate, and can't...
There is no division between pure religion and science.
James 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
One of the books most commonly taught from in the Bible, talks about four young scientists.
Daniel 1:4
Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
All of the scriptures I posted in this thread show advanced scientific knowledge; just like archaeology shows people with advanced scientific knowledge inhabited our whole planet!
The sorry explanations "scientists falsely so called" have to explain these facts away are based on superstition, not science.
The Bible isn't against science.
It's against "science falsely so called."
1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
There is no division between pure religion and science.
James 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
One of the books most commonly taught from in the Bible, talks about four young scientists.
Daniel 1:4
Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
All of the scriptures I posted in this thread show advanced scientific knowledge; just like archaeology shows people with advanced scientific knowledge inhabited our whole planet!
The sorry explanations "scientists falsely so called" have to explain these facts away are based on superstition, not science.
The Bible isn't against science.
It's against "science falsely so called."
1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
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Nicely put MyDom, but.....
The general problem appear to be the Olde English used in the Bible. People often have trouble understanding.
Eg; The Bible isn't against science.
It's against "science falsely so called."
Should more properly these days be...
The Bible isn't against science.
It's against false science.
Personally... I blame Trump.
The general problem appear to be the Olde English used in the Bible. People often have trouble understanding.
Eg; The Bible isn't against science.
It's against "science falsely so called."
Should more properly these days be...
The Bible isn't against science.
It's against false science.
Personally... I blame Trump.
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AlanStagg: Nicely put MyDom, but.....
The general problem appear to be the Olde English used in the Bible. People often have trouble understanding.
Eg; The Bible isn't against science.
It's against "science falsely so called."
Should more properly these days be...
The Bible isn't against science.
It's against false science.
Personally... I blame Trump.
The fact that you can identify my source, by the words I use, is why I choose to use those words.The general problem appear to be the Olde English used in the Bible. People often have trouble understanding.
Eg; The Bible isn't against science.
It's against "science falsely so called."
Should more properly these days be...
The Bible isn't against science.
It's against false science.
Personally... I blame Trump.
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Science is to establish the logical cause and effect of phenomena of the universe based on objective observation and the religion is to establish group of followers based on subjective psychological manipulation for whatever the purpose is.
Religion is not the object of scientific observation and analysis.
Science has no business to prove of disprove the religion.
Religion is not the object of scientific observation and analysis.
Science has no business to prove of disprove the religion.
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galrads: Religion is based on authority. Science is based on observation.
your opinions please.....
Science is the process theory-test-new theory; math only enters into it in the test phase and is only formal logic, which is rational but untestable and may be misapplied.your opinions please.....
Quantum mechanics is extrapolated from math and thus fails to be science. The Big Bang is based on local phenomena (albeit our visible universe) and also fails. They will be replaced.
Religion is wisdom passed down through the ages from men who were smart in their time. Thus the universal avoidance of pork in the former Canaan area due to an outbreak of trichinosis--no it wasn't limited to the Jews. That concept among others is no longer a plus for believers--science found a cure.
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your opinions please.....