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Jul 3, 2018 9:20 AM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
I consider myself to be more patriotic than the average American.

I still buy American made goods, even though my 2 pairs of work and dress boots and one pair of casual shoes cost almost $1000; in spite of the fact, I never earned over $10,000 in a year: and our "President" makes his products in 3rd world nations.

The power in America isn't with the people.

Our "President" was appointed by 304 members of the Electoral College, before the votes in Hawaii were counted.


(I heard a guy call in on the radio explaining it like this...

He said, "I'm 26, and only once in my lifetime was the president elected...")


But, I remember it like this...

America was taken over in a coup, when Kennedy was assassinated.
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Jul 3, 2018 4:18 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
rainbowdream2017: Well said.
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Jul 3, 2018 4:23 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
It is...they just don't utilize it.......wine
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Jul 3, 2018 4:23 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
Draegoneer: Patriotic spring is one way to put it.

The larger truth is that people are tired of government trying to control every thing but themselves at the expense of tax payers. People are tired of being in harms way because the government that is supposed to represent them, is working for the other guy instead. Each country could have easily protected what they were elected to represent and still stayed strong with actual negotiations for any thing outside of it.

Government is the reason for much of the chaos now on a global scale. I notice it still doesn't seem to be talked about much and any one that does, is a liar.

Why did the so-called allies and some others, follow obozo almost like a dog in heat?

The crime rates are still high, debt is still growing, and the people are finally starting to take a stand again. Is it, or will it ever be, enough? It's sad to see what it takes for people to quit laying down and try something. At this point, almost anything is worth trying.

I hope no one suffers a civil war over the unrest that's been created. There seem to be an awful lot of people with almost zero values and reasoning. I will ponder that if it comes to that; It's highly likely the U.S. might be leading the way with that too.
Very well said, beer
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Jul 3, 2018 5:15 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
epirb: Pick your flag that you will be marching under , the Hakenkreuz or the Hammer & Sickle , better like red as both use it . I don't believe there will be a peaceful resolution to the migration crisis .
ur country is buying up land here movin to the usa?the mormons are taking over here where i live.
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Jul 3, 2018 5:17 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
Lookin4missright: Exuse me please... has any of you seen Molly
she got married and living with children grin laugh

Sorry just fun laugh
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Jul 3, 2018 5:17 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
Conrad73: Probably has Algorithms in place now!
yup they ban more of my threads here than FB!
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Jul 3, 2018 5:18 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
mykingdomforanam: I consider myself to be more patriotic than the average American.

I still buy American made goods, even though my 2 pairs of work and dress boots and one pair of casual shoes cost almost $1000; in spite of the fact, I never earned over $10,000 in a year: and our "President" makes his products in 3rd world nations.

The power in America isn't with the people.

Our "President" was appointed by 304 members of the Electoral College, before the votes in Hawaii were counted.


(I heard a guy call in on the radio explaining it like this...

He said, "I'm 26, and only once in my lifetime was the president elected...")


But, I remember it like this...

America was taken over in a coup, when Kennedy was assassinated.
agree.
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Jul 3, 2018 5:53 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
ChesneyChrist: The hope is that the tragedy you’re inflicting makes people moral and patient. Layabouts with nothing better to do than cause trouble behind screens may bring this world to the brink of disaster, but surviving you tossers will be character building.
Its you're choice if you want to pray to Allah and follow Muhammed but don't course trouble behind screens for people that doesn't share your " faith". grin
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Jul 3, 2018 6:00 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
epirb: Size is power .
doh Yes! It's called MOB rule! wow uh oh moping grin
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Jul 3, 2018 6:04 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Let_Us: I have a question, Rainy. Should I support my "country" (and it's corrupt politicians), or should I support "humanity", in it's attempt to create a decent "place" for ALL to live? WHERE does my allegiance PROPERLY lie? It's gonna be a struggle, no matter WHO I support! But I'm just curious, about YOUR answer. Which would YOU advise me to support?
I can't chose for you but I know my choice, isn't that call democracy ?
I don't support corrapt politicians !!!! Charity starts from home if you want to support humanity and not globalist ideas that wants to destroy patriots who are prosecuted and labeled for wanting to preserve their nations, western culture etc.
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Jul 3, 2018 6:05 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
Draegoneer: Patriotic spring is one way to put it.

The larger truth is that people are tired of government trying to control every thing but themselves at the expense of tax payers. People are tired of being in harms way because the government that is supposed to represent them, is working for the other guy instead. Each country could have easily protected what they were elected to represent and still stayed strong with actual negotiations for any thing outside of it.

Government is the reason for much of the chaos now on a global scale. I notice it still doesn't seem to be talked about much and any one that does, is a liar.

Why did the so-called allies and some others, follow obozo almost like a dog in heat?

The crime rates are still high, debt is still growing, and the people are finally starting to take a stand again. Is it, or will it ever be, enough? It's sad to see what it takes for people to quit laying down and try something. At this point, almost anything is worth trying.

I hope no one suffers a civil war over the unrest that's been created. There seem to be an awful lot of people with almost zero values and reasoning. I will ponder that if it comes to that; It's highly likely the U.S. might be leading the way with that too.
what the libs want the gun folks to alot of peons n get our guns/remedy!
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Jul 3, 2018 6:06 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Let_Us: Yes! It's called MOB rule!
Its call democratic voting.
Demography matters !!!
Ask Israel - they will tell you the same.
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Jul 3, 2018 6:28 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
rainbowdream2017: I can't chose for you but I know my choice, isn't that call democracy ?
I don't support corrapt politicians !!!! Charity starts from home if you want to support humanity and not globalist ideas that wants to destroy patriots who are prosecuted and labeled for wanting to preserve their nations, western culture etc.
rolling on the floor laughing Sidestepping AGAIN, Rainy! doh You have a propensity for NOT answering questions that can be "troubling"! dunno

YOU know me WELL ENOUGH to know that I'd go my own way, and choose/decide for myself, no matter what YOU SAID! beer Neither a follower, nor a leader, be! IS my predilection. cool I DIDN'T ASK you to choose FOR me! Only to tell me WHICH, if either, YOU would choose! And you choose NOT to answer a "difficult" question! Which IS one of my "problems", with discussing "politics" with you! You pick a side, and rarely look at any OTHER possibilities/options/questions associated with/to it. And "I" have PROBLEMS with "labels", like "globalist", "patriot", "NWO", "nationalist", etc. I'm an individual human being! I'm NOT a "group"! WHATEVER you choose to call IT, or ME! As far as "preserving nations", if preserving nations is going to be the proximate cause of the destruction of Earth, I don't see that "PRESERVING NATIONS" will do ANY of us MUCH good! Patriot, or NOT! If we're all dead, what will it matter? But you're welcome to keep beating the drums of divisiveness, if you wish. A big war will CERTAINLY cure the world's population problem! Which IS on the agenda of the NWO/powers that be/globalists! You CAN choose to DO their work, for them, or NOT, as you wish. Have a happy! hug teddybear grin
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Jul 3, 2018 6:38 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
rainbowdream2017: Its call democratic voting.
Demography matters !!!
Ask Israel - they will tell you the same.
You are 100% right .
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Jul 3, 2018 6:49 PM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
rainbowdream2017: Its call democratic voting.
Demography matters !!!
Ask Israel - they will tell you the same.
rolling on the floor laughing So an organised orderly mob is BETTER than a disorderly, unruly mob? doh I'm NOT SURE what you mean, by saying "Demography matters!!!"? Demography is the creating and maintaining of records, of a group of people. There are 2 possibilities, for HOW that MIGHT "matter"! #1. It gives you a database for the dispensation of "benefits", within that group. Or, #2. It creates a database that can be used to figure out how/when/where/why selected individuals can be "chosen/silenced"! So, YES! It CAN matter! But NOT in ANY WAY that HELPS the INDIVIDUAL members of that group, UNLESS you consider receiving handouts from somebody IS beneficial, to any members of the group! And I'm SURE Israel would consider "demographics" important! Being a "society", within a LARGER "society", that HAS stated that it wishes to "exterminate" them, I'm SURE they're VERY INTERESTED to KNOW WHO everybody is! And WHERE they are! In case they HAVE to start killing any of them, when "war" breaks out! Is THAT a "GOOD" thing? I THINK it kinda depends on EACH PERSON'S "position", in/on those demographics!

Can I ask you ANOTHER question, and get an answer, INSTEAD of an evasion? Is a "democratic" mob, ANY LESS destructive, than a NON-democratic mob? confused dunno hug grin
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Jul 4, 2018 1:28 AM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
tg1964: You are 100% right .
Thank you tg. Demography doesn't lie and is ALWAYS winning!!!
Everyone deserves there homeland and culture, heritage... if you took all the Chinese out of Hong Kong there would still be china.
Once native Europeans are gone were gone forever.

The bigger the population the wealthier the wealthy elites get. The smaller the population gets the less wealth for the wealthy elites so to me at least its obvious who and why this madness is happening and the added bonus of the non EU migrant population being easier to dictate to as they`re used to that unlike Europeans who make sure their rights are upheld regarding workers rights.


For example; what will be the future for white Brits, will they just become a quiet minority and if not when and how will this change...Will there be a time when even those that wish not to get involved have no choice or will they also just go along as a minority, also will they be despised for it ?

White British Becoming Minority | Demographic Crisis In Europe | The Great Replacement

Europe now;

cheers
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Jul 4, 2018 1:54 AM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Let_Us: Sidestepping AGAIN, Rainy! You have a propensity for NOT answering questions that can be "troubling"!

YOU know me WELL ENOUGH to know that I'd go my own way, and choose/decide for myself, no matter what YOU SAID! Neither a follower, nor a leader, be! IS my predilection. I DIDN'T ASK you to choose FOR me! Only to tell me WHICH, if either, YOU would choose! And you choose NOT to answer a "difficult" question! Which IS one of my "problems", with discussing "politics" with you! You pick a side, and rarely look at any OTHER possibilities/options/questions associated with/to it. And "I" have PROBLEMS with "labels", like "globalist", "patriot", "NWO", "nationalist", etc. I'm an individual human being! I'm NOT a "group"! WHATEVER you choose to call IT, or ME! As far as "preserving nations", if preserving nations is going to be the proximate cause of the destruction of Earth, I don't see that "PRESERVING NATIONS" will do ANY of us MUCH good! Patriot, or NOT! If we're all dead, what will it matter? But you're welcome to keep beating the drums of divisiveness, if you wish. A big war will CERTAINLY cure the world's population problem! Which IS on the agenda of the NWO/powers that be/globalists! You CAN choose to DO their work, for them, or NOT, as you wish. Have a happy!
The truth shall set us/you free !!!Liberalism and globalism will ended western civilization.Maybe you don’t care about the continuation of the European peoples?
Or you see no difference between an European people and a Zulu?
Here’s a reminder.
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I will answer your question in best of my ability. My suggestion is, start fostering a moral consciousness that says its OK to be us; there's no moral reason to import people from the Middle East and Africa who won't assimilate or will change us. There's nothing shameful about being American, or German, or Irish, or French, or Italian, or Croatian, or Austrian, or Hungarian, etc and its abnormal if you're part of a nation and hate it!!!!
Second,change the tone of public conversation on immigration, demographics etc. This is starting to happen, with mainstream commentators like Tucker Carlson taking on this subject more thoroughly, as well as a general youthful cultural movement happening that's wise to it. It's starting to filter into politics, so pressure your elected officials to vote against anything but greater restrictions on immigration or they'll be replaced with people who will. Have courage to talk about it in your personal life as well.

Of course, I am not expecting you to do anything, just answering your question in relation to my views ...
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Jul 4, 2018 1:59 AM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
wave

Anyone seen Molly moping
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Jul 4, 2018 2:37 AM CST The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not??
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Let_Us Yes,Demography matters!!!

Open the borders and allow the free movement of people, where everyone enjoys absolutely equal rights (earned or not). The great replacement and mix. It's like saying allow access by anyone to a bank account that you have worked long and hard to build.

Our nations are the sum of our ancestors strife and labour.
It is morally wrong to allow just anyone in to take advantage of our wealth and welfare, TAX PAYERS MONEY - without asking people !

Obviously an open borders policy will result in the economic and cultural collapse of any nation.

Kalergi plan.

Here is example that DEMOGRAPHY is everything !

Palestinians in 'demographic war' with Israel
Published on Nov 29, 2014
Large families are traditional in Gaza, with mothers having an average of four children -- making the fertility rate one of the highest in the world. While cultural and social practices influence the birth rate, many parents here say it's their national duty to keep the Palestinian population growing. Al Jazeera's Jane Ferguson reports from Gaza


Jerusalem: Will Israel Lose it Due to Demographics?
Published on Mar 27, 2018
Israeli officials say that the number of Jews and Arabs in the Holy Land, a territory roughly located between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, is at or near parity. The population statistics were cited in an Israeli parliamentary statement on Monday. Demography is studied closely by Israelis, as well as the Palestinians, because of its possible political implications.

Israelis worries about their demography, why western world and Europe wouldn't be concerned of their own ?
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