The Patriot Spring / Is the power in the hands of the people or not?? (97)
Draegoneer!
I think the anti-migration parties will gain a lot of support if they call for such changes towards a more direct democracy.
Secondly, With relation to the democratic process, besides frequent referendums, we can also demand more frequent elections, on the european, national and local level. In most of Europe we have a say only once every 5 years, and then are completely shut out from the decision making process. This is ridiculous and needs to change to a much more participatory democracy.
We can demand that the elections (both for European and state and regional and local level) are NOT done by 'first past the post' system (or even worse - ‘winner takes all' as it is in America), which are the most unjust and unrepresentitive option out there (and that causes the system to be dominated by usually only two major parties), but rather through a ranked/alternative vote system, also known as 'preferential voting' system, or the ‘instant runoff’ voting system, like they have in Australia (it is hard to summerize this system quickly in just a few words here, so I suggest searching for it, though it is not at all complicated).
Another component for a much more participatory, democratic (and transparent) system is happening right now in Taiwan through the vTaiwan system which seems really good and could be easily implemented also in Europe and America. It creates an open consultation/dialogue process for the entire society to engage in rational discussion on national issues and for the decisions to be made with full acknowledgment of what the public wants (right now it is the exact opposite).
Third thing we can do, on a different front - all that they are doing is done in secrecy, behind closed doors. If it was made public and people knew about their plans then they won’t be able to do it so easily. So for this reason, what we need to do is to demand total transparency in everything that our representatives do (on the European level, and on the national and local level). Just like they have total surveillance against us right now, just like they track and listen and record everything we do and say, in the same way we can turn surveillance around to be directed at them, and demand that the total transparency be applied to all levels of society, including the rich and the decision makers. In other words, demand that by law all their meetings and everything they say in these meeting will be public. To demand that by law they cannot meet behind closed doors and decide things in secrecy. This can be applied to heads of state, to parliament members, to civil servants, to European bureaucrats, to media owners and editors to the CEO’s of mega corporations and especially to members of the lobby groups. There is no reason in the world why the public shouldn’t know what they are discussing among themselves behind closed doors, just like they spy and track and record everything about us. If they have nothing to hide, then they shouldn't worry about their meetings being made public, right?
Fourth, we obviously should share this information as much as possible. Most people in Europe are still not aware of what is going on. Most whites still believe the propaganda in the media and believe that they are supporting the underdog by supporting migrants, that they are doing the right moral thing.
I am sure that if more were actually aware of the catastrophic demographic reality as outlined in this video and that they are being replaced by the third world then there would be much less support for this take over. Most whites believe that they are supporting the underdog, once they see that they themselves are soon destined to become the underdogs under the rule of an intolerant and unintelligent non-white society they'll think twice about their unquestioned support for migration.
So the conclusion is that I think A LOT more effort should be put on bringing the facts to the public.
I think the anti-migration parties will gain a lot of support if they call for such changes towards a more direct democracy.
Secondly, With relation to the democratic process, besides frequent referendums, we can also demand more frequent elections, on the european, national and local level. In most of Europe we have a say only once every 5 years, and then are completely shut out from the decision making process. This is ridiculous and needs to change to a much more participatory democracy.
We can demand that the elections (both for European and state and regional and local level) are NOT done by 'first past the post' system (or even worse - ‘winner takes all' as it is in America), which are the most unjust and unrepresentitive option out there (and that causes the system to be dominated by usually only two major parties), but rather through a ranked/alternative vote system, also known as 'preferential voting' system, or the ‘instant runoff’ voting system, like they have in Australia (it is hard to summerize this system quickly in just a few words here, so I suggest searching for it, though it is not at all complicated).
Another component for a much more participatory, democratic (and transparent) system is happening right now in Taiwan through the vTaiwan system which seems really good and could be easily implemented also in Europe and America. It creates an open consultation/dialogue process for the entire society to engage in rational discussion on national issues and for the decisions to be made with full acknowledgment of what the public wants (right now it is the exact opposite).
Third thing we can do, on a different front - all that they are doing is done in secrecy, behind closed doors. If it was made public and people knew about their plans then they won’t be able to do it so easily. So for this reason, what we need to do is to demand total transparency in everything that our representatives do (on the European level, and on the national and local level). Just like they have total surveillance against us right now, just like they track and listen and record everything we do and say, in the same way we can turn surveillance around to be directed at them, and demand that the total transparency be applied to all levels of society, including the rich and the decision makers. In other words, demand that by law all their meetings and everything they say in these meeting will be public. To demand that by law they cannot meet behind closed doors and decide things in secrecy. This can be applied to heads of state, to parliament members, to civil servants, to European bureaucrats, to media owners and editors to the CEO’s of mega corporations and especially to members of the lobby groups. There is no reason in the world why the public shouldn’t know what they are discussing among themselves behind closed doors, just like they spy and track and record everything about us. If they have nothing to hide, then they shouldn't worry about their meetings being made public, right?
Fourth, we obviously should share this information as much as possible. Most people in Europe are still not aware of what is going on. Most whites still believe the propaganda in the media and believe that they are supporting the underdog by supporting migrants, that they are doing the right moral thing.
I am sure that if more were actually aware of the catastrophic demographic reality as outlined in this video and that they are being replaced by the third world then there would be much less support for this take over. Most whites believe that they are supporting the underdog, once they see that they themselves are soon destined to become the underdogs under the rule of an intolerant and unintelligent non-white society they'll think twice about their unquestioned support for migration.
So the conclusion is that I think A LOT more effort should be put on bringing the facts to the public.
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epirb: I've not given up on voting , I'm quite involved . Its hard to tell exactly but I'm sure I cost a small anti 1080 (deadly poison flown onto our bush ) party 3000 votes . I agree with the party just did not want them wasted , so several days before election I spread a small white lie on facebook that votes from small partys that fail to get enough votes to get an MP are divided between the big ones who do , I know that those against 1080 would never support one of those largest partys , and they backed my horse . I had fun .
European Summit: Disaster for Merkel, Victory for Visegrad Coalition!!!
Published on Jul 3, 2018
It's the beginning of the end for Merkel and her open borders policies for the EU!!!
Here's latest video on "Merkel's Gov't on Brink as Germans Reject Open Borders"
You'll also like: "The Arrest of Tommy Robinson Will Fuel Worldwide Populism"
Immigrants are fine if country don't over do it and swamp themselves or bring in people that hate natives and want to take over.
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Let_Us: I have a question, Rainy. Should I support my "country" (and it's corrupt politicians), or should I support "humanity", in it's attempt to create a decent "place" for ALL to live? WHERE does my allegiance PROPERLY lie? It's gonna be a struggle, no matter WHO I support! But I'm just curious, about YOUR answer. Which would YOU advise me to support?
You're allegiance should PROPERLY lie with American people /Constitution and not with African and Middle Eastern invaders!!!Victor Orban is an great example -he is European Trump!
‘Reconstruct European democracy’: Viktor Orban’s chilling demand ahead of crunch EU summit
Published on Jun 28, 2018
Viktor Orban, the Hungarian Prime Minister has issued a chilling message to EU leaders ahead of today’s crunch European Council summit, saying that European democracy must be 'reconstructed' in order to deal with the migrant crisis.
Orban has called on European Union leaders to fundamentally overhaul European politics in order to deal with the migrant crisis.
The controversial leader claimed the people of Europe wanted the flow of migrants stopped and migrants currently in EU countries to be sent back.
He told press in Brussels: “This is the right time to launch a new period where we try to reconstruct European democracy.
“And I hope now we will make a move to the direction of the reconstruction of European democracy".
Published on Jun 21, 2018
European leaders in favour of a restrictive migration policy gather in Budapest on Thursday for a meeting of minds, a day after Hungary passed legislation criminalising help to asylum seekers.…
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Winning! Supreme Court Gives Trump His Full Immigration Ban!!!
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Hungary debates 'Stop Soros' anti-migrant bill | Al Jazeera English
Published on Jun 5, 2018
On Tuesday, Hungary's parliament is set to debate laws that would criminalise those who help undocumented migrants navigate the system.
It is part of a crackdown on immigration by Prime Minister Viktor Orban's right-wing government.
It wants the constitution changed so other European Union countries can't transfer asylum seekers to Hungary.
Al Jazeera's Jonah Hull reports from Budapest.
George Soros transfers $18B to open society foundation
American Conservative Union Chairman Matt Schlapp on whether it’s ethical for George Soros to give $18 billion to his open foundation.
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Spring has a life force and I’d have to call you guys more of an autumn. You make me think of leaves turning brown with winter on its way. Death is in the air.
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Spring is warm and that’s the one thing you people are not. I encounter two types of people on the far-right and these are either pissed off don’t get even, get angry type of person and the creepy nice and icy polite types like Stringman and Lindsey. Pissed off or plastic, never warm.
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ChesneyChrist: Spring is warm and that’s the one thing you people are not. I encounter two types of people on the far-right and these are either pissed off don’t get even, get angry type of person and the creepy nice and icy polite types like Stringman and Lindsey. Pissed off or plastic, never warm.
What's your point? It is far-right only if you are extrime Lefty BOLSHEVIC / COMMUNIST.
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I like to congratulate all Americans on INDEPENDENCY DAY !!!!
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rainbowdream2017: I like to congratulate all Americans on INDEPENDENCY DAY !!!!
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reb56: for now,thx.
Youre welcome. 
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rainbowdream2017: Politicians need to be held to account for their actions of not utilizing what people voted for.
Have we learnt nothing from the story of the Trojan horse?
I think the UN wants conflict.
They know that different cultures living together is the biggest cause of conflict in the world.
They want war in Europe and everywhere else in the world so we beg for a one world government.
MULTICULTURALISM /diversity is a code word for White Genocide.
Globalist elite wants Europeans (and Americans) to be replaced in their homelands.
I think we all know very well that mass immigration into Europe of mostly Muslims and Africans will be culturally catastrophic and destructive. We can all see the evidence.
The globalist elites are cultural nihilists, although they might not consciously realize it.
This video about global demography is truly frightening. Everyone deserves there homeland and culture, heritage!!!
How Global Demographics Threaten to Transform the West
Published on Jan 11, 2018
This an updated version of a video uploaded to this channel in 2017. The visuals and the voice-over have been improved, but the data is for the most part the same.
This video explores the enormous demographic changes occurring in the developing world, and how they have the potential to also completely change the west. I compare the fertility rates of different countries and regions, look at how long it took different countries to double their population, and explore the effect western aid money has had on population in the developing world.
0:12 - Introduction
1:01 - General picture of global population
3:09 - Compared: The west vs major immigrant-sending countries
7:14 - The scale of Mid Eastern and African population growth
8:20 - Africa to double by 2050, Europe to shrink
8:36 - Why Africa is growing
9:10 - Poverty
9:54 - Aid makes things worse
11:09 - Europe's migrant crisis in context
11:54 - Conclusion
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white genocide is right look at canada,etc.mexico is an enemy,etc.trump isnt helping just lip service while we slowly fall to sleep w/ 60 million illegal latins n 20 million radical islamist refugees here its just a matter of time for a takeover after trumps 2020 victory he will turn dem on us n show his true agenda for 33 degree masons,etc.happy 4th usa n sos enjoy it for now!Have we learnt nothing from the story of the Trojan horse?
I think the UN wants conflict.
They know that different cultures living together is the biggest cause of conflict in the world.
They want war in Europe and everywhere else in the world so we beg for a one world government.
MULTICULTURALISM /diversity is a code word for White Genocide.
Globalist elite wants Europeans (and Americans) to be replaced in their homelands.
I think we all know very well that mass immigration into Europe of mostly Muslims and Africans will be culturally catastrophic and destructive. We can all see the evidence.
The globalist elites are cultural nihilists, although they might not consciously realize it.
This video about global demography is truly frightening. Everyone deserves there homeland and culture, heritage!!!
How Global Demographics Threaten to Transform the West
Published on Jan 11, 2018
This an updated version of a video uploaded to this channel in 2017. The visuals and the voice-over have been improved, but the data is for the most part the same.
This video explores the enormous demographic changes occurring in the developing world, and how they have the potential to also completely change the west. I compare the fertility rates of different countries and regions, look at how long it took different countries to double their population, and explore the effect western aid money has had on population in the developing world.
0:12 - Introduction
1:01 - General picture of global population
3:09 - Compared: The west vs major immigrant-sending countries
7:14 - The scale of Mid Eastern and African population growth
8:20 - Africa to double by 2050, Europe to shrink
8:36 - Why Africa is growing
9:10 - Poverty
9:54 - Aid makes things worse
11:09 - Europe's migrant crisis in context
11:54 - Conclusion
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reb56: white genocide is right look at canada,etc.mexico is an enemy,etc.trump isnt helping just lip service while we slowly fall to sleep w/ 60 million illegal latins n 20 million radical islamist refugees here its just a matter of time for a takeover after trumps 2020 victory he will turn dem on us n show his true agenda for 33 degree masons,etc.happy 4th usa n sos enjoy it for now!
I am still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt. He is doing his best to stop illigals ? The US is under attack from within: Antifa, Liberals and central banks are the real enemies.
In regard to Freemasons, no doubt they bring destruction to all nations.
Have you heard about Albert Pike an high level Freemason (illuminati): " We control Islam and we use it to Destroy the West."
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What are rights? Where do they come from? One’s answers to these questions determine whether one is capable of defending a free society. If one does not know the nature and source of rights, one cannot know whether rights are real or imagined. And if rights are not real, there is no foundation for freedom; governments and societies may do as they please.
The traditional answers to the above questions fall into three categories: (1) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they come from God. (2) Rights are political laws specifying what a person is free to do, and they are created by governments. (3) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they are inherent in man’s nature. But each of these theories is demonstrably false, and a person or society attempting to defend freedom on such grounds will ultimately fail—as Americans are failing today.
Ayn Rand’s answers to the above questions, however, are demonstrably true—and those who come to understand her answers thereby equip themselves to defend freedom on solid, philosophic ground.
Toward understanding Rand’s theory of rights and its crucial value in the cause of freedom, let us begin with a brief overview of the traditional theories and their essential deficiencies. Then we will turn to Rand’s theory, see how it solves the various problems left unsolved by the other theories, and discover how it grounds rights in observable facts..................
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Conrad73: https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2011-fall/ayn-rand-theory-rights/
What are rights? Where do they come from? One’s answers to these questions determine whether one is capable of defending a free society. If one does not know the nature and source of rights, one cannot know whether rights are real or imagined. And if rights are not real, there is no foundation for freedom; governments and societies may do as they please.
The traditional answers to the above questions fall into three categories: (1) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they come from God. (2) Rights are political laws specifying what a person is free to do, and they are created by governments. (3) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they are inherent in man’s nature. But each of these theories is demonstrably false, and a person or society attempting to defend freedom on such grounds will ultimately fail—as Americans are failing today.
Ayn Rand’s answers to the above questions, however, are demonstrably true—and those who come to understand her answers thereby equip themselves to defend freedom on solid, philosophic ground.
Toward understanding Rand’s theory of rights and its crucial value in the cause of freedom, let us begin with a brief overview of the traditional theories and their essential deficiencies. Then we will turn to Rand’s theory, see how it solves the various problems left unsolved by the other theories, and discover how it grounds rights in observable facts..................
true n we are not a muslim nation!What are rights? Where do they come from? One’s answers to these questions determine whether one is capable of defending a free society. If one does not know the nature and source of rights, one cannot know whether rights are real or imagined. And if rights are not real, there is no foundation for freedom; governments and societies may do as they please.
The traditional answers to the above questions fall into three categories: (1) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they come from God. (2) Rights are political laws specifying what a person is free to do, and they are created by governments. (3) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they are inherent in man’s nature. But each of these theories is demonstrably false, and a person or society attempting to defend freedom on such grounds will ultimately fail—as Americans are failing today.
Ayn Rand’s answers to the above questions, however, are demonstrably true—and those who come to understand her answers thereby equip themselves to defend freedom on solid, philosophic ground.
Toward understanding Rand’s theory of rights and its crucial value in the cause of freedom, let us begin with a brief overview of the traditional theories and their essential deficiencies. Then we will turn to Rand’s theory, see how it solves the various problems left unsolved by the other theories, and discover how it grounds rights in observable facts..................
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rainbowdream2017: I am still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt. He is doing his best to stop illigals ?
The US is under attack from within: Antifa, Liberals and central banks are the real enemies.
In regard to Freemasons, no doubt they bring destruction to all nations.
Have you heard about Albert Pike an high level Freemason (illuminati): " We control Islam and we use it to Destroy the West."
i sent out pike thread long ago n got called an alarmist trump could crush them if he wishes he is a 33 degree mason it might be taken down by now look it up i did last winter!The US is under attack from within: Antifa, Liberals and central banks are the real enemies.
In regard to Freemasons, no doubt they bring destruction to all nations.
Have you heard about Albert Pike an high level Freemason (illuminati): " We control Islam and we use it to Destroy the West."
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https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2011-fall/ayn-rand-theory-rights/
What are rights? Where do they come from? One’s answers to these questions determine whether one is capable of defending a free society. If one does not know the nature and source of rights, one cannot know whether rights are real or imagined. And if rights are not real, there is no foundation for freedom; governments and societies may do as they please.
The traditional answers to the above questions fall into three categories: (1) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they come from God. (2) Rights are political laws specifying what a person is free to do, and they are created by governments. (3) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they are inherent in man’s nature. But each of these theories is demonstrably false, and a person or society attempting to defend freedom on such grounds will ultimately fail—as Americans are failing today.
Ayn Rand’s answers to the above questions, however, are demonstrably true—and those who come to understand her answers thereby equip themselves to defend freedom on solid, philosophic ground.
Toward understanding Rand’s theory of rights and its crucial value in the cause of freedom, let us begin with a brief overview of the traditional theories and their essential deficiencies. Then we will turn to Rand’s theory, see how it solves the various problems left unsolved by the other theories,
You need to read the making of the constitution of the United states , then read the constitution , it protects us from foreign and domestic tyrants .it protects our rights and freedoms , and your right God played a part of it , things were different then , take the second amendment , the right to keep and bear arms , they didn't think ,there would be gang bangers and drive by shootings , because it was against God's morals .
You need to read Patrick Henry , give liberty or give me death speech , God is brought up in his speech .
What are rights? Where do they come from? One’s answers to these questions determine whether one is capable of defending a free society. If one does not know the nature and source of rights, one cannot know whether rights are real or imagined. And if rights are not real, there is no foundation for freedom; governments and societies may do as they please.
The traditional answers to the above questions fall into three categories: (1) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they come from God. (2) Rights are political laws specifying what a person is free to do, and they are created by governments. (3) Rights are moral laws specifying what a person should be free to do, and they are inherent in man’s nature. But each of these theories is demonstrably false, and a person or society attempting to defend freedom on such grounds will ultimately fail—as Americans are failing today.
Ayn Rand’s answers to the above questions, however, are demonstrably true—and those who come to understand her answers thereby equip themselves to defend freedom on solid, philosophic ground.
Toward understanding Rand’s theory of rights and its crucial value in the cause of freedom, let us begin with a brief overview of the traditional theories and their essential deficiencies. Then we will turn to Rand’s theory, see how it solves the various problems left unsolved by the other theories,
You need to read the making of the constitution of the United states , then read the constitution , it protects us from foreign and domestic tyrants .it protects our rights and freedoms , and your right God played a part of it , things were different then , take the second amendment , the right to keep and bear arms , they didn't think ,there would be gang bangers and drive by shootings , because it was against God's morals .
You need to read Patrick Henry , give liberty or give me death speech , God is brought up in his speech .
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Trump should not go to the UK while the UK government is trying to destroy Brixit . May is only trying to legitimise her government while Trump would have nothing to lose by not going .
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tg1964:
You need to read the making of the constitution of the United states , then read the constitution , it protects us from foreign and domestic tyrants .it protects our rights and freedoms , and your right God played a part of it , things were different then , take the second amendment , the right to keep and bear arms , they didn't think ,there would be gang bangers and drive by shootings , because it was against God's morals .
You need to read Patrick Henry , give liberty or give me death speech , God is brought up in his speech .
So What?You need to read the making of the constitution of the United states , then read the constitution , it protects us from foreign and domestic tyrants .it protects our rights and freedoms , and your right God played a part of it , things were different then , take the second amendment , the right to keep and bear arms , they didn't think ,there would be gang bangers and drive by shootings , because it was against God's morals .
You need to read Patrick Henry , give liberty or give me death speech , God is brought up in his speech .
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reb56: i sent out pike thread long ago n got called an alarmist trump could crush them if he wishes he is a 33 degree mason it might be taken down by now look it up i did last winter!
I still have a hope in Trump.
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Have we learnt nothing from the story of the Trojan horse?
I think the UN wants conflict.
They know that different cultures living together is the biggest cause of conflict in the world.
They want war in Europe and everywhere else in the world so we beg for a one world government.
MULTICULTURALISM /diversity is a code word for White Genocide.
Globalist elite wants Europeans (and Americans) to be replaced in their homelands.
I think we all know very well that mass immigration into Europe of mostly Muslims and Africans will be culturally catastrophic and destructive. We can all see the evidence.
The globalist elites are cultural nihilists, although they might not consciously realize it.
This video about global demography is truly frightening. Everyone deserves there homeland and culture, heritage!!!
How Global Demographics Threaten to Transform the West
Published on Jan 11, 2018
This an updated version of a video uploaded to this channel in 2017. The visuals and the voice-over have been improved, but the data is for the most part the same.
This video explores the enormous demographic changes occurring in the developing world, and how they have the potential to also completely change the west. I compare the fertility rates of different countries and regions, look at how long it took different countries to double their population, and explore the effect western aid money has had on population in the developing world.
0:12 - Introduction
1:01 - General picture of global population
3:09 - Compared: The west vs major immigrant-sending countries
7:14 - The scale of Mid Eastern and African population growth
8:20 - Africa to double by 2050, Europe to shrink
8:36 - Why Africa is growing
9:10 - Poverty
9:54 - Aid makes things worse
11:09 - Europe's migrant crisis in context
11:54 - Conclusion
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