Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense (138)

Jul 12, 2018 10:19 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
"We're no longer the world's piggy bank"

Trump's speech in Europe tour.

I would say it's about time!

Anyone's opinion on this?

Thank you all for reading or participating if interested.
Jul 12, 2018 10:29 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
lindsyjones: "We're no longer the world's piggy bank"

Trump's speech in Europe tour.

I would say it's about time!

Anyone's opinion on this?

Thank you all for reading or participating if interested.
Why do we need to carry this obligation?
Jul 12, 2018 10:50 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
lindsyjones: Why do we need to carry this obligation?
USA USA USA I’ve complained for years that US needs to let nato pay more for their defense. The UN could disappear to and I wouldn’t care. They’re both liabilities and almost worthless.

Europe has enjoyed affording and having better infrastructure than USA because we were paying to protect them. Their various transportation services make ours look like a dirt bike path.

We need to let them pay for their own defense and then improve our own infrastructure.

wave
Jul 12, 2018 10:52 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
The US taxpayer is no longer Europe's ATM
Jul 12, 2018 10:55 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
galrads: USA USA USA I’ve complained for years that US needs to let nato pay more for their defense. The UN could disappear to and I wouldn’t care. They’re both liabilities and almost worthless.

Europe has enjoyed affording and having better infrastructure than USA because we were paying to protect them. Their various transportation services make ours look like a dirt bike path.

We need to let them pay for their own defense and then improve our own infrastructure.
I would definitely agree with you Galrad. However, read this and it's a little mind boggling:
What the U.S. Gets for Defending
Its Allies and Interests Abroad
By MAX FISHER and SERGIO PEÇANHA JAN. 16, 2017

President-elect Donald J. Trump has questioned the
return that the United States gets for defending its allies. Here’s the
current picture of what America puts in and gets out of global alliances.

Treaties with more than 30 countries
help bring stability to the most
economically and politically important
regions for the United States.
Countries with mutual defense treaties with the United States, and trade in 2015 between the United States and major partners


Canada

$577 billion

United

States

European Union

$699 billion

Both Nato and European Union members

European Union countries

China

$599

billion

Japan

$194

billion

S. Korea

$115

billion

Philippines

Australia

More than 210,000 American military
personnel are deployed overseas.
Most are not in active conflict zones.

Countries with more than 1,000 American military personnel

73,500

in Japan and

South Korea

79,000

military

personnel

in Europe

36,000

in the

Middle East

The U.S. operates from several bases in the Philippines.

EUROPE
The European Union is America’s top
trading partner. Keeping Europe
peaceful and unified has been a top
United States priority since World War II.
wave
Jul 12, 2018 10:56 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
stringman: The US taxpayer is no longer Europe's ATM
John thank you.
Can you post this on my blog?
Jul 12, 2018 11:38 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
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lindsyjones: "We're no longer the world's piggy bank"

Trump's speech in Europe tour.

I would say it's about time!

Anyone's opinion on this?

Thank you all for reading or participating if interested.
this should go und jokes
Jul 12, 2018 11:49 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
Fine by me.

You lot just go off and police the world by yourselves.

How are the Mexicans getting on with that wall?

Do they need any help building it to keep you lot out?
Jul 12, 2018 11:52 AM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
lindsyjones: I would definitely agree with you Galrad. However, read this and it's a little mind boggling:
What the U.S. Gets for Defending
Its Allies and Interests Abroad
By MAX FISHER and SERGIO PEÇANHA JAN. 16, 2017

President-elect Donald J. Trump has questioned the
return that the United States gets for defending its allies. Here’s the
current picture of what America puts in and gets out of global alliances.

Treaties with more than 30 countries
help bring stability to the most
economically and politically important
regions for the United States.
Countries with mutual defense treaties with the United States, and trade in 2015 between the United States and major partners


Canada

$577 billion

United

States

European Union

$699 billion

Both Nato and European Union members

European Union countries

China

$599

billion

Japan

$194

billion

S. Korea

$115

billion

Philippines

Australia

More than 210,000 American military
personnel are deployed overseas.
Most are not in active conflict zones.

Countries with more than 1,000 American military personnel

73,500

in Japan and

South Korea

79,000

military

personnel

in Europe

36,000

in the

Middle East

The U.S. operates from several bases in the Philippines.

EUROPE
The European Union is America’s top
trading partner. Keeping Europe
peaceful and unified has been a top
United States priority since World War II.
I question these numbers ....
If USA gets that kind of money: why don’t these countries use it to defend themselves instead, why can’t we get that money if we don’t spend money to defend them, we could pay off our national debt in no time if they give us that kind of money, we could probably save s lot more if we didn’t have the dize military and bases and equipment to maintain to protect our allies.

Why can’t our allies protect themselves? The eu has free trade with countries we’re supposed to defend them from...,

Everyone pay their own way, no more blood from women and men of USA military to defend people who could give a crap (excepting France n skiers etc)
Jul 12, 2018 12:06 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
lindsyjones: "We're no longer the world's piggy bank"

Trump's speech in Europe tour.

I would say it's about time!

Anyone's opinion on this?

Thank you all for reading or participating if interested.
Sorry Lindsy,
but we don't really need you and want you here ... dunno
Jul 12, 2018 12:06 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
galrads:
Everyone pay their own way, no more blood from women and men of USA military to defend people who could give a crap (excepting France n skiers etc)
You're defending no one.

You're protecting your own interests and dragging other countries in to help.

No more USA blood?

What about the military personnel from other countries? Does their sacrifice not count?

You lot make me want to puke.
Jul 12, 2018 12:08 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
And the sooner you lot piss off and start your own CS (Good ol' US of A) Forum, the better.
Jul 12, 2018 12:17 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
well I think Canada is getting pretty pissed at trumps antics...I would simply leave the u.s. to its own devices and stay in our peace keeping roll....people here are doing up shop Canadian lists after the ridiculous tarrifs trump introduced...others simply wont even travel to the u.s. anymore.....don't call us when you get into your next conflict and need help....we will be busy trying to create peace I hope rather than getting involved in these stupid wars only to have the u.s, take all the credit like its allies simply don't exist....wine
Jul 12, 2018 12:26 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
pKrema: Sorry Lindsy,
but we don't really need you and want you here ...
Few here would disagree with you on that. We must be one bad a** country if your are upset about us not wanting to fund worthless UN and NATO unfairly like we have.
Jul 12, 2018 12:29 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
deviant_slice: You're defending no one.

You're protecting your own interests and dragging other countries in to help.

No more USA blood?

What about the military personnel from other countries? Does atheir sacrifice not count?

You lot make me want to puke.
Well heck tell your governments you don’t want money and help from the USA! Less taxes we have to pay that way. I bet You all make a lot of us want to puke. wave
Jul 12, 2018 12:29 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
Then drop out...trump is making sure all the allied relationships go to hell anyway...so whats the difference?....dunno
Jul 12, 2018 12:31 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
M4_Mischief: well I think Canada is getting pretty pissed at trumps antics...I would simply leave the u.s. to its own devices and stay in our peace keeping roll....people here are doing up shop Canadian lists after the ridiculous tarrifs trump introduced...others simply wont even travel to the u.s. anymore.....don't call us when you get into your next conflict and need help....we will be busy trying to create peace I hope rather than getting involved in these stupid wars only to have the u.s, take all the credit like its allies simply don't exist....
Canada likes profiteering from USA isuues.
I wonder how much Canada misses selling and distributing booze to the USA and causing all the corruption and violence here because of Canadian booze.

wave
Jul 12, 2018 12:43 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
Oh like your guns that are a dime a dozen and come across our border to be sold on the black market....hmmmm I wonder which one is more dangerous and causes more violence?...dunno


Personally after all trumps shit...I think we should boycott all American products not to mention cross border shopping and holidays....peace
Jul 12, 2018 12:46 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
galrads: Well heck tell your governments you don’t want money and help from the USA! Less taxes we have to pay that way. I bet You all make a lot of us want to puke.
You lot could sink into both oceans and you wouldn't be missed.

You act like the rest of the world owes you some sort of debt.

You only exist, thanks to the rest of the world.

Oh.... and the fact that you slaughtered the native inhabitants of your precious country.
Jul 12, 2018 12:50 PM CST Europe must pay their fair share of THEIR national defense
deviant_slice: You lot could sink into both oceans and you wouldn't be missed.

You act like the rest of the world owes you some sort of debt.

You only exist, thanks to the rest of the world.

Oh.... and the fact that you slaughtered the native inhabitants of your precious country.
wow blah blah blah

wave

Have you ever considered using ‘Ostritch’ for a cs user name? .... rolling on the floor laughing
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