Having said this the only way to make the powers that be do right by you is to make it more expensive for them to do wrong by you. The powers that be hope that between Facebook, video games and meditation the masses of the people never try to impose themselves on the real world again and will thus go gentle into that good night. The good thing about Trump/Brexit is that they represent a change in a self-enfeebling culture that was almost terminal in its refusal to take action.
Simon Coveney, Republic of Ireland minister for foreign affairs and trade, speaks with Jason Naselli about his government's approach to the border, the Conservative/DUP deal and the 'Brexit bill'.
Our preferred solution is that we find a way of maintaining as close to the status quo as possible. We don’t believe we can do that by simply using technology on the border. There needs to be quite a unique political solution agreed between Ireland, the UK and the EU that can allow the free movement of goods and services and people, and the normal environment that has been created in the border area on the island of Ireland, to continue.
Don’t forget that this is very much part of the development of the peace process as well as a functioning economy, and that is something that we need to protect. And sometimes politics needs to find new ways of doing things in order to protect what’s valuable. I believe that the normality that we’ve managed to create between north and south in Ireland, where we effectively have an invisible border – we have to protect that and maintain it.
Whether you’re a unionist politician in Northern Ireland or a nationalist politician, or whether you’re from the Republic of Ireland, I think that is a very important status quo in Ireland that we want to protect through the Brexit negotiating process. Which isn’t easy, by the way, and that’s why we’ll need some flexible new thinking here.
What kind of commitments are you looking for from the British government with regards to this?
First of all, that there is a political solution required here rather than a technical one. Everybody recognizes that Northern Ireland is staying in the United Kingdom, until a majority of people in Northern Ireland want to change that. But that means a portion of the island of Ireland is leaving the European Union.
You have a 500 kilometre border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland… about 1.8 million cars cross the border every month; there are 400 road crossings on the border. So the idea that we’re going to put up checks, whether it’s through cameras or through physical stops on the road – we can’t accept that. I think the British government understands that and we are now looking at ways in which, through politics, we can come to an arrangement that can allow the island of Ireland to continue to function as it does.
How do you feel the confidence and supply deal between the Conservatives and the DUP at Westminster will affect negotiations?
A lot of people would expect me to be negative about that, but I’m actually not that negative on it. The DUP have agreed in that confidence and supply agreement to support Brexit legislation and so there is now an onus on them politically to ensure that legislation is popular in Northern Ireland. That means that they will have to argue to ensure that the border issues are resolved in a satisfactory manner for Northern Ireland. And I think on those border issues, the DUP want to try to maintain the status quo as closely as they can. From that point of view, there are upsides to the confidence and supply agreement in the context of Northern Ireland and Brexit.
I contend that if there was any hope for a better world somebody would have burned down a stock exchange during the great recession. But we did precisely nothing until Brexit. Brexit and Trump are the closest we've come to burning down the stock exchange and we're long overdue for burning down the stock exchange, this is a fight against a modern world become so passive that grandad revolts, but grandchildren don't. The truth is that the regressive and the reactionary open the door for progressive rebellion, we need people as nasty and selfish as Trump and irresponsible as Farage to show what capitalism truly is and everything wrong with a world run by sociopathy alone.
You need Brexit more than you realise... It's vital for you to go through suffering to save your remaining tiny piece of social consciousness ... You should see yourselves through the eyes of a bystander...
pKrema: You need Brexit more than you realise... It's vital for you to go through suffering to save your remaining tiny piece of social consciousness ... You should see yourselves through the eyes of a bystander...
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PeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands6,334 posts
You need to be very happy with the Brexit, staying in the EU will cost you billions of GBP. People who have worked in countries like poland and Bulgaria for maybe 10-20 years and then come to the UK and work one day there and then loose there job, they have the right to get a complete unemployedment benefit from the UK, that are the plans from the EU nowadays. I bet a lot of them will come to the Netherlands, when they get the chance, so I hope it's Nexit in a few years, the sooner the better. The UK, Germany, France and the Netherlands always have been the countries paying the most to the EU, and the other countries are getting all that money. They say we get it back by trading with other countries, but the other countries also are trading. There's not enough benefit to stay in the EU. We need a western EU, with the UK, Germany, Scandinavia, France, Ireland, Iceland, Belgium, Monaco and Luxembourg. All the other countries, we don't need them, let them form their own union.
That would be fair to the taxpayers. And let all the other countries deal with the fugitives, they only want to come to us for the money, most of them don't want to work at all.
PeKaatje: You need to be very happy with the Brexit, staying in the EU will cost you billions of GBP. People who have worked in countries like poland and Bulgaria for maybe 10-20 years and then come to the UK and work one day there and then loose there job, they have the right to get a complete unemployedment benefit from the UK, that are the plans from the EU nowadays. I bet a lot of them will come to the Netherlands, when they get the chance, so I hope it's Nexit in a few years, the sooner the better. The UK, Germany, France and the Netherlands always have been the countries paying the most to the EU, and the other countries are getting all that money. They say we get it back by trading with other countries, but the other countries also are trading. There's not enough benefit to stay in the EU. We need a western EU, with the UK, Germany, Scandinavia, France, Ireland, Iceland, Belgium, Monaco and Luxembourg. All the other countries, we don't need them, let them form their own union.
That would be fair to the taxpayers. And let all the other countries deal with the fugitives, they only want to come to us for the money, most of them don't want to work at all.
The UK and a few other countries have been carrying the EU for ages, and the immigrants then come and take the benefits won by the British people. We have had enough Any politician who goes for another referendum is dead in the water, w are going out next March, one way or another.
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