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Sep 16, 2018 3:36 AM CST Help.....
Arthur_Sixpence
Arthur_SixpenceArthur_SixpenceEnnis, Clare Ireland51 Threads 4 Polls 1,001 Posts
What are your opinions on helping others in public....
You see a spat/fight brewing/descent/dispute (among adults) (between parent and child)...
You are in a social situation and someones being a pain in the ar*e...
You know first aid and someone needs your help...
....but then the possible backlash, verbal at best, leading to physical aggression and letigious response at worst...

Walk on by, considering that you might have had a positive outcome, or get involved and accept that you did things in good faith...
Me, I'd leave off the first two (referencing the restaurant / kids thread from earlier), but I would do the first aid intervention, and hope to hell that my good intentions didn't come back to haunt me...

Public interventions around children being chastised physically in social settings is probably one of the most difficult and devisive subjects to raise, but I'll leave it here in the thread for your consideration...
(for purpose of this discussion chastisement and assault require to be seen as wholly different actions, a light smack on the bottom is not to be compared with a more sustained physical reprimand - I'm choosing my words carefully here as it's very easy to be taken out of context)...

A weighty old topic for a Sunday, but there you go...
Discuss at will...
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Sep 16, 2018 3:42 AM CST Help.....
Arthur_Sixpence: What are your opinions on helping others in public....
You see a spat/fight brewing/descent/dispute (among adults) (between parent and child)...
You are in a social situation and someones being a pain in the ar*e...
You know first aid and someone needs your help...
....but then the possible backlash, verbal at best, leading to physical aggression and letigious response at worst...

Walk on by, considering that you might have had a positive outcome, or get involved and accept that you did things in good faith...
Me, I'd leave off the first two (referencing the restaurant / kids thread from earlier), but I would do the first aid intervention, and hope to hell that my good intentions didn't come back to haunt me...

Public interventions around children being chastised physically in social settings is probably one of the most difficult and devisive subjects to raise, but I'll leave it here in the thread for your consideration...
(for purpose of this discussion chastisement and assault require to be seen as wholly different actions, a light smack on the bottom is not to be compared with a more sustained physical reprimand - I'm choosing my words carefully here as it's very easy to be taken out of context)...

A weighty old topic for a Sunday, but there you go...
Discuss at will...
Hi L, good to see you back.
A weighty subject alright.
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Sep 16, 2018 3:50 AM CST Help.....
Arthur_Sixpence
Arthur_SixpenceArthur_SixpenceEnnis, Clare Ireland51 Threads 4 Polls 1,001 Posts
snowlynx: Hi L, good to see you back.
A weighty subject alright.
Hi D, we need to 'get the band back together' for a tour of the tribes... I know herself would be up for it... Pm her and she'll pm me and we'll all pm each other.....or somthing.... thumbs up
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Sep 16, 2018 3:52 AM CST Help.....
Arthur_Sixpence: Hi D, we need to 'get the band back together' for a tour of the tribes... I know herself would be up for it... Pm her and she'll pm me and we'll all pm each other.....or somthing....
That would be nice alright.
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Sep 16, 2018 3:53 AM CST Help.....
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Interesting subject. But too early for me in this sunny calm before the storm day.
But let's just say, I don't ignore situations.
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Sep 16, 2018 4:22 AM CST Help.....
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
Hi All!

The presence of another person is sometimes all that is needed to bring the aggressive party back to reality.

At times, I will simply stand close by and make my presence known. The offender may divert his anger towards me (an innocent bystander) and give a moment of escape for the victim. It also has led to their embarrassment when they realize people are looking.

As for children crying, that’s a difficult topic. When we hear children crying, it creates a hormonal response in the hearers. Yes, I have walked up to strangers and asked to hold the child. It’s that break in the stuck situation (anger fueling fear and more anger) that jerks people back to reality.

I can’t tolerate unjust and cruel treatment.
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Sep 16, 2018 4:24 AM CST Help.....
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
Ps. Glad to see so many caring people in Ireland!!!

teddybear
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Sep 16, 2018 4:26 AM CST Help.....
Limun
LimunLimunAbidos, Central Serbia Serbia6 Threads 1 Polls 1,923 Posts
Is having a cold drink and cheering from across the street acceptable uh oh
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Sep 16, 2018 4:28 AM CST Help.....
Kaylana04: Ps. Glad to see so many caring people in Ireland!!!
Thank you K, we are indeed a caring people.
innocent
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Sep 16, 2018 4:29 AM CST Help.....
Limun: Is having a cold drink and cheering from across the street acceptable
Lol, I suppose it depends on the circumstances.
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Sep 16, 2018 4:55 AM CST Help.....
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
My best friend died defending an innocent and that’s had an impact.

Do we want to grow old and selfish like Trump, spinelessly saving our own skin no matter the cost to anybody else? Or is it better to risk it all in a moment knowing that another would have given his life for you?
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Sep 16, 2018 5:22 AM CST Help.....
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Not knowing the whole story is what should be taken into account...
Call the police when you have enough evidence something ugly is going on ...easier when they are neighbours for example...
Jumping into a fight to protect someone and then you find out this "someone" has actually caused the problem...
The worst is when kids are involved, you keep silent because you know the kid will have it even worse when at home, same with women and violent boyfriends...
It's not like talking someone out of jumping from a bridge...
It's never an easy decision...
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Sep 16, 2018 12:25 PM CST Help.....
fifitrixibelle
fifitrixibellefifitrixibellegalway, Galway Ireland20 Threads 1 Polls 4,629 Posts
Arthur_Sixpence: Hi D, we need to 'get the band back together' for a tour of the tribes... I know herself would be up for it... Pm her and she'll pm me and we'll all pm each other.....or somthing....
Herself is definitely up for it! Partyyyy cheering cheering
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Sep 16, 2018 12:33 PM CST Help.....
annaroach
annaroachannaroachLimerick, Ireland217 Threads 6,747 Posts
As it's my favourite County ,,then i would be in
I am committed to a few trips to UK in November,
so i hope that it doesn't clash with thatcheering
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Sep 16, 2018 2:57 PM CST Help.....
Packersbabe1
Packersbabe1Packersbabe1Green Bay, Wisconsin USA3 Threads 16,508 Posts
Not getting involved, people that usually gets involved, be the ones that get hurt
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Sep 16, 2018 3:00 PM CST Help.....
Packersbabe1
Packersbabe1Packersbabe1Green Bay, Wisconsin USA3 Threads 16,508 Posts
Now if someone gets hurt and need medical attention, then it’s my duty to help being in the medical fields
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Sep 17, 2018 3:20 AM CST Help.....
Mercedes_00
Mercedes_00Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,428 Posts
There's a huge difference between abusing a child and bloody chastising a child.
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Sep 17, 2018 3:39 AM CST Help.....
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Arthur_Sixpence: What are your opinions on helping others in public....
You see a spat/fight brewing/descent/dispute (among adults) (between parent and child)...
You are in a social situation and someones being a pain in the ar*e...
You know first aid and someone needs your help...
....but then the possible backlash, verbal at best, leading to physical aggression and letigious response at worst...

Walk on by, considering that you might have had a positive outcome, or get involved and accept that you did things in good faith...
Me, I'd leave off the first two (referencing the restaurant / kids thread from earlier), but I would do the first aid intervention, and hope to hell that my good intentions didn't come back to haunt me...

Public interventions around children being chastised physically in social settings is probably one of the most difficult and devisive subjects to raise, but I'll leave it here in the thread for your consideration...
(for purpose of this discussion chastisement and assault require to be seen as wholly different actions, a light smack on the bottom is not to be compared with a more sustained physical reprimand - I'm choosing my words carefully here as it's very easy to be taken out of context)...

A weighty old topic for a Sunday, but there you go...
Discuss at will...
My dad's approach to teaching me to swim was throw me in the deep end until I stopped drowning and I can still remember the woman's face as she pulled me from the water unleashing absolute fury at my dad.
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Sep 17, 2018 3:43 AM CST Help.....
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,954 Posts
ChesneyChrist: My dad's approach to teaching me to swim was throw me in the deep end until I stopped drowning and I can still remember the woman's face as she pulled me from the water unleashing absolute fury at my dad.
My dad thought it was funny to hold my ankles while I was upside down underwater. .

It's my only memory of him, he died when I was 13.
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