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Sep 21, 2018 10:40 AM CST no more referendums
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
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Theresa May on 'two big problems' in UK-EU negotiations
Theresa May called for "serious engagement" over the "two big problems" in the UK-EU talks.

Closing her statement from Downing Street, she said no-one wanted a deal more than her, but pledged not to overturn the 2016 referendum result, or "break up my country".

2h ago

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Sep 21, 2018 11:24 AM CST no more referendums
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
aries1234: Video
Theresa May on 'two big problems' in UK-EU negotiations
Theresa May called for "serious engagement" over the "two big problems" in the UK-EU talks.

Closing her statement from Downing Street, she said no-one wanted a deal more than her, but pledged not to overturn the 2016 referendum result, or "break up my country".

2h ago
Better break up your country,
than
the rest of us in EU.-
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Sep 21, 2018 11:26 AM CST no more referendums
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
chris27292729: Better break up your country,
than
the rest of us in EU.-
No chance we will not bail Greece out AGAINrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 21, 2018 12:45 PM CST no more referendums
Arthur_Sixpence
Arthur_SixpenceArthur_SixpenceEnnis, Clare Ireland51 Threads 4 Polls 1,001 Posts
I couldn't believe it in 2016 when the leave vote came in... I'm not a politically driven individual, but I respect the value of open boarders and free trade... And before I hear a thousand and one reasons why I'm wrong, it wasn't a landslide, it was a way of giving the government of the day a bloody nose from a disenfranchised voting public who's been sold a dream of imperial promise...jolly good until the decision made has effects that no one has planned for...
There isn't the old 'sun never setting on a little piece if england' anymore, Britain is not the industrial powerhouse of days gone by, Britain is a bit player in a global marketplace....why on earth they would not want to continue having the power of the EU by their side is a mystery to me... I'm expat living in Ireland now, so I don't have any skin in the game, but I believe this will not end well...
The captains of industry warned of brexet and its consequences, so now we sit and watch from the sidelines as it comes spectacularly undone ....
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Sep 21, 2018 12:54 PM CST no more referendums
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
Arthur_Sixpence: I couldn't believe it in 2016 when the leave vote came in... I'm not a politically driven individual, but I respect the value of open boarders and free trade... And before I hear a thousand and one reasons why I'm wrong, it wasn't a landslide, it was a way of giving the government of the day a bloody nose from a disenfranchised voting public who's been sold a dream of imperial promise...jolly good until the decision made has effects that no one has planned for...
There isn't the old 'sun never setting on a little piece if england' anymore, Britain is not the industrial powerhouse of days gone by, Britain is a bit player in a global marketplace....why on earth they would not want to continue having the power of the EU by their side is a mystery to me... I'm expat living in Ireland now, so I don't have any skin in the game, but I believe this will not end well...
The captains of industry warned of brexet and its consequences, so now we sit and watch from the sidelines as it comes spectacularly undone ....
It's in the interests of some people to rain on our parade, May is doing her best to get a good deal for the Irish borders as well, but if push comes to shove cut them loose.
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Sep 21, 2018 3:03 PM CST no more referendums
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Sorry, but which country does Theresa May think belongs to her?

Did she mention anything about the other British countries?
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Sep 22, 2018 2:07 AM CST no more referendums
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
jac_the_gripper: Sorry, but which country does Theresa May think belongs to her?

Did she mention anything about the other British countries?
Exactly May's proposal is treasonous - WE should make our own Laws and what is never plugged by Biased politicians and media, is the Fact that if we stay IN - Before we can trade with 2/3 of the world outside it Great Britain will still have to go Cap in hand to seek permission from the Committee of Fascist dictators.
That includes our own colonies and those who chose to remain in our Commonwealth after Independence.
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Sep 22, 2018 2:15 AM CST no more referendums
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
MikeD12: Exactly May's proposal is treasonous - WE should make our own Laws and what is never plugged by Biased politicians and media, is the Fact that if we stay IN - Before we can trade with 2/3 of the world outside it Great Britain will still have to go Cap in hand to seek permission from the Committee of Fascist dictators.
That includes our own colonies and those who chose to remain in our Commonwealth after Independence.
is doing her best against the EU who wan to control Britain, you are living in the past Mike if you think differently, May is pro British people. 'm ok with the idea of a no deal Brexit, and dropping Ireland. WE can trade with the rest of the world for us. and not have Europe dipping into our pockets.
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Sep 22, 2018 2:58 AM CST no more referendums
Tulefell
TulefellTulefellGothenburg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden103 Threads 5 Polls 3,298 Posts
aries1234: It's in the interests of some people to rain on our parade, May is doing her best to get a good deal for the Irish borders as well, but if push comes to shove cut them loose.
Why wouldn't you leave first and then parade?

Just as a hedge against a tiny possibility of being ridiculous if the future shows that you were parading prematurely.
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Sep 22, 2018 3:56 AM CST no more referendums
MsContessa
MsContessaMsContessaMayo, Ireland24 Threads 1,227 Posts
aries1234: No chance we will not bail Greece out AGAIN
Sorry to inform you that your National debt is 1.8 trillion...
I would be real worried about Brexit if I were you.
English laws are not as humanistic as EU laws...
you could be wearing a hair shirt for a long time!!
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Sep 22, 2018 4:59 AM CST no more referendums
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
MsContessa: I am a very visual person.
You paint a very disturbing but honest picture!
Ireland's national debt is getting on for a trillion and they are not a rich country like England.
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Sep 22, 2018 5:43 AM CST no more referendums
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Why should I or any other taxpayer pay for your Thai bride? e.

Get the facts right and don't make assumptions - For Your information -
1. I still pay tax too at the same rate as you if you are not on the higher rate.
2. Since 2016 Mays Financial status rule applies to ALL nations.outside of the EU .
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Sep 22, 2018 6:13 AM CST no more referendums
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
chris27292729: Better break up your country,
than
the rest of us in EU.-
When will the Greece pay back the money we lent them?
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Sep 22, 2018 6:25 AM CST no more referendums
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Be glad the Brexit will be. The Netherlands and the UK are almost the biggest payers of the EU.

The EU has one currency, the Euro, but people working in the rich countries are earning more an hour than the poor countries. So all poor people coming to the rich countries, getting an unemployedment benefit the rich countries have to pay.

Why not say: You are from that country, that country will pay your unemployedment benefit? Of course the taxes on their salary should also go to the poor countries. Maybe then it will work.

The system was set up in a completely wrong way.
If income and prices in stores were equal through Europe would be the same, the system might work.

Still Europe is inviting poor countries to join the EU, the rich countries have to pay for it.

In my country, since we got the Euro in 2002 everything has become 2.5 - 3 times more expensive, but the salaries hasn't risen 250-300% maybe just 15%. So the common man who has a normal salary is feeling it in his wallet. 15% more salary but he can do less with it.

This all because of the wrong decissions of the EU. I hope the Netherlands will follow after the Brexit, because the UK is leaving we will have to pay more to the EU.
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Mar 6, 2019 8:38 PM CST no more referendums
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
Most likely scenario: Brexit is quietly shelved, by the politicians who didn't want it in the first place.

Second most likely scenario: The government proposing a "deal" so unappealing to all sides that the government confidently put it to a public referendum, knowing it will be rejected, and Britain can go back to business as usual and forget Brexit altogether.

Third most likely scenario: London is bombed by a squadron of flying pigs, causing Brexit to be shelved "temporarily" while the situation is normalized.

Least likely scenario: Brexit.
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