After Brexit, the 310 mile border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland will become the UK's border with the EU. At the moment, thousands of people cross it every day for both work and pleasure - as do goods, like food and medicines, being delivered across the two countries. As part of the EU single market and customs union, these products do not need to be checked for customs and standards, but when the UK leaves these two arrangements, this all changes. BBC's Europe Correspondent Damian Grammaticas reports.
aries1234: After Brexit, the 310 mile border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland will become the UK's border with the EU. At the moment, thousands of people cross it every day for both work and pleasure - as do goods, like food and medicines, being delivered across the two countries. As part of the EU single market and customs union, these products do not need to be checked for customs and standards, but when the UK leaves these two arrangements, this all changes. BBC's Europe Correspondent Damian Grammaticas reports.
News today is that May and the European leaders are coming closer to a solution.
PeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands6,334 posts
Well, I wonder. When I was in Ireland beer was expensive in the supermarkets, in the uk it's less expensive. Will there be smuggling of alcohol between Northern Ireland and Ireland?
PeKaatje: Well, I wonder. When I was in Ireland beer was expensive in the supermarkets, in the uk it's less expensive. Will there be smuggling of alcohol between Northern Ireland and Ireland?
In brief
Claim Only 5% of Northern Ireland’s GDP goes to Ireland.
Conclusion Roughly correct in terms of goods exports. But goods exports are not normally measured as a percentage of GDP. 33% of Northern Ireland’s goods exports went to the Republic in 2016.
Claim 1 of 4 "As it happens, the UK and Ireland are already very sparing in their checks on goods entering from outside the EU – only four per cent get checked by the UK and only one per cent by Ireland…
“Only 5 per cent of Northern Ireland’s GDP goes to Ireland, and only 1.6 per cent of Irish exports go to Northern Ireland. There are only about 50 large companies that trade across the frontier”
Nov 12, 2018 7:07 PM CST Great Britain Eire, border.
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 posts
Sadly it is unlikely that Brexit will ever happen.
Having failed to manipulate the British electorate to get the vote they wanted in the Brexit "referendum", they will find some way to weasel out of obeying the wishes of the people.
Nov 12, 2018 11:20 PM CST Great Britain Eire, border.
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 posts
As an aside, I suppose someone needs to say this.
There is no border between "Great Britain" and "Eire" as referred to in the thread title.
Great Britain is a term that refers to the landmass of England, Scotland, and Wales, and as such it does not include Northern Ireland and therefore does not border the Irish Republic.
A more appropriate term would be UK / Eire border, as Northern Ireland is part of the UK, but not part of Great Britain.
charles_nz: As an aside, I suppose someone needs to say this.
There is no border between "Great Britain" and "Eire" as referred to in the thread title.
Great Britain is a term that refers to the landmass of England, Scotland, and Wales, and as such it does not include Northern Ireland and therefore does not border the Irish Republic.
A more appropriate term would be UK / Eire border, as Northern Ireland is part of the UK, but not part of Great Britain.
Cheers.
As an aside, I suppose someone needs to say this.
There is no border between "Great Britain" and "Eire" as referred to in the thread title.
Great Britain is a term that refers to the landmass of England, Scotland, and Wales, and as such it does not include Northern Ireland and therefore does not border the Irish Republic.
A more appropriate term would be UK / Eire border, as Northern Ireland is part of the UK, but not part of Great Britain.
Cheers.[/quote:You are absolutely correct , so it seems someone doesn't know what they are bladdering on about ,,,,
aries1234: After Brexit, the 310 mile border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland will become the UK's border with the EU. At the moment, thousands of people cross it every day for both work and pleasure - as do goods, like food and medicines, being delivered across the two countries. As part of the EU single market and customs union, these products do not need to be checked for customs and standards, but when the UK leaves these two arrangements, this all changes. BBC's Europe Correspondent Damian Grammaticas reports.
Ireland became part of the United Kingdom in 1801. But Ireland’s sectarian divisions, which had opened up during religious wars in the 17th century between Protestants and Catholics, were exacerbated by economic problems in the 19th century. Britain’s shift to free trade from the 1840s onwards mainly benefited the industrial north-east of Ulster, where Protestants made up a majority of the population. But the rest of the country, which was more reliant on agriculture, suffered badly from falling global food prices and the Irish Famine of 1845-50. The result was the rise of Irish nationalist movements, drawing much of their support from the Catholic south, which wanted a new Irish Parliament and to re-introduce protectionist measures. When William Gladstone, then Britain’s prime minister, proposed Irish legislative independence (called Home Rule) in 1885, the north-east exploded with sectarian rioting against his proposals. Ulster Protestants feared that “Home Rule means Rome Rule”, thinking they would lose the religious and economic freedoms they enjoyed as part of the United Kingdom by becoming a minority in a mainly Catholic Ireland. When the rest of Ireland gained independence as the “Irish Free State” in 1922, north-east Ulster did not want to join them. The British government was forced to partition the six most north-eastern counties of the new Irish state to form Northern Ireland, in fear that Protestant civil unrest in Ulster would otherwise turn into a civil war against the new state.
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At the moment, thousands of people cross it every day for both work and pleasure - as do goods, like food and medicines, being delivered across the two countries.
As part of the EU single market and customs union, these products do not need to be checked for customs and standards, but when the UK leaves these two arrangements, this all changes.
BBC's Europe Correspondent Damian Grammaticas reports.