To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why? ( Archived) (36)

Nov 23, 2018 6:32 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
Let’s compare, shall we?

Hurtful truth:

‘This is what happened. And this is how I truly feel. I am really sorry. But I thought you deserved to know the truth. I know it really hurts but I am here, to help you get over it. Let me know what can I do to make things better.’

Comforting lie:

‘Ofcourse, I'm saying the truth. I have no reason to lie to you. I love you, you know that right? I will never do something that might hurt you even a little. I love you. I love everything about you. You're just perfect.’

When you use the first one, it will hurt and kill and bleed. But it will heal faster. Infact, the other person might allow you to be there to help them heal. You will be respected.

When you use the second one, it won't hurt now at all. But it will keep piling up till one day, the truth just comes out. You will make the other person feel that everything you ever said was a lie. Pure lie just to comfort them. You will be regretted.

No matter how hard it is, always choose the truth.wine
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Nov 23, 2018 6:47 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
You summed up a vast amount of realistic understanding most won't get/understand!
Might be naive but keep distance from pretty much everyone.conversing
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Nov 23, 2018 6:59 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
Yes the truth is always better that's for sure....sometimes when I am put on the spot I am not sure what to say so I will blurt out something else.....uh oh
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Nov 23, 2018 7:18 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Sometimes it's better to keep silent. Or if you are gonna lie, you have to do it perfect, so everyone would believe it.
And sometimes if you don't want to hurt somebody who's close to you, like your parents, friends, brother, sister, wife or children etc. then don't tell anything.

But if you have to stand trial, lie like a politician.
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Nov 23, 2018 7:22 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
yeah take some lessons from trump......liar
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Nov 23, 2018 9:27 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
M4wave
It reminds me of one situation I had once when I was caught on the act
sigh the first I thought was to lie to get an excused but I realized it would just make it complicated so I accepted and told the truth even it hurts a bitsigh wine
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Nov 23, 2018 9:32 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
PeKaatje: Sometimes it's better to keep silent. Or if you are gonna lie, you have to do it perfect, so everyone would believe it.
And sometimes if you don't want to hurt somebody who's close to you, like your parents, friends, brother, sister, wife or children etc. then don't tell anything.

But if you have to stand trial, lie like a politician.
hey Pekwave
Why not we can just zipped our mouth z but @ times its not helping because issues will be unsolvedconfused wine
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Nov 23, 2018 9:41 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
chatonlyman2: You summed up a vast amount of realistic understanding most won't get/understand!
Might be naive but keep distance from pretty much everyone.
chatonlywave
Simple and conscise confused handshake
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Nov 23, 2018 10:33 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
Bluesky60
Bluesky60Bluesky60Marysville, Washington USA225 Posts
I think the truth is better to hear.
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Nov 23, 2018 10:44 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
Bluesky60: I think the truth is better to hear.
Hey Bluehug howdy? yes it doeswine
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Nov 23, 2018 11:20 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
Bviac
BviacBviacOltenia, Lithuania Minor Lithuania10 Posts
The trust here : I submitted documents for Canadian citizenship in 1996 year. I was first in RF, who did it in new Canadian citizenship programs. My documents application was refuged. What I have now? Nothing. I now in Russia. So many year. It is mistake, it my refugees right violations. No goodtongue
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Nov 23, 2018 11:34 PM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
Mercedes_00online today!
Mercedes_00online today!Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,456 Posts
I always say if you want the truth by all means ask me but if you want me to lie just to make you feel good don't dare ask me.
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Nov 24, 2018 12:16 AM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
Bviac: The trust here : I submitted documents for Canadian citizenship in 1996 year. I was first in RF, who did it in new Canadian citizenship programs. My documents application was refuged. What I have now? Nothing. I now in Russia. So many year. It is mistake, it my refugees right violations. No good
Bvacwave
I understand how you feel sigh but every country does have their own rules and requirements in applying and programs that you have to comply.I did that too in my application to US E mbassy and thanked God got my working visasmitten wine
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Nov 24, 2018 12:19 AM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
Mercedes_00: I always say if you want the truth by all means ask me but if you want me to lie just to make you feel good don't dare ask me.
Mercethumbs up .Being yourself made it a big differencewine
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Nov 24, 2018 12:23 AM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
Mercedes_00online today!
Mercedes_00online today!Mercedes_00Greater Sydney, New South Wales Australia18 Threads 20,456 Posts
ysabeljhen: Merce .Being yourself made it a big difference
thumbs up hug
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Nov 24, 2018 12:25 AM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
uh oh hug
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Nov 24, 2018 12:56 AM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ysabeljhen: Let’s compare, shall we?

Hurtful truth:

‘This is what happened. And this is how I truly feel. I am really sorry. But I thought you deserved to know the truth. I know it really hurts but I am here, to help you get over it. Let me know what can I do to make things better.’

Comforting lie:

‘Ofcourse, I'm saying the truth. I have no reason to lie to you. I love you, you know that right? I will never do something that might hurt you even a little. I love you. I love everything about you. You're just perfect.’

When you use the first one, it will hurt and kill and bleed. But it will heal faster. Infact, the other person might allow you to be there to help them heal. You will be respected.

When you use the second one, it won't hurt now at all. But it will keep piling up till one day, the truth just comes out. You will make the other person feel that everything you ever said was a lie. Pure lie just to comfort them. You will be regretted.

No matter how hard it is, always choose the truth.
Women avoid truth like the plague when it's for the purpose of not looking like a bad person - to personally fear the consequences of telling the truth is so woman that women often turn to sociopathic men for their complete indifference to feelings.

But there are selfless reasons to lie. Comforting words to the mother burying her son, everything will be ok in heaven, praising fat people and exaggerating their efforts in the gym, making a big deal out of that depressed persons new trainers, holding a country together in war. There are some occasions when the feelings are more important than the facts and you need to trick people into behaving confidently to change their facts.
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Nov 24, 2018 1:01 AM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ysabeljhen
ysabeljhenysabeljhenFlying Fish Cove, Christmas Island71 Threads 2 Polls 1,874 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Women avoid truth like the plague when it's for the purpose of not looking like a bad person - to personally fear the consequences of telling the truth is so woman that women often turn to sociopathic men for their complete indifference to feelings.

But there are selfless reasons to lie. Comforting words to the mother burying her son, everything will be ok in heaven, praising fat people and exaggerating their efforts in the gym, making a big deal out of that depressed persons new trainers, holding a country together in war. There are some occasions when the feelings are more important than the facts and you need to trick people into behaving confidently to change their facts.
Well Chestneywave I realized you have the point of considering one's feelings and @times we are not the same wine handshake
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Nov 24, 2018 1:30 AM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Particularly in my western world where relationships are about confidence and fun is the lie of most use. Confidence is a feeling and fun is playing with people's feelings, in the context of frolic you have to realise how deflating the whole truth and nothing but the truth would be.

In other cultures where love is colder and more practical - where life is based on utility(not fun)and the achievement of objectives(instead of sensory stimulation) - life will accord closer to the matter of fact. Clinical.
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Nov 24, 2018 2:01 AM CST To tell Comforting lie or Hurtful truth...why?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
It's not really about the truth or lie because women are suspicious of the kindness displayed by soliciting males be they genuine or not. The sense that he's trying to curry favour because he doesn't think he's good enough is what she does want to perceive, if she was objectively the most beautiful girl in the world telling her this truth early on would be akin to shooting yourself in the foot. Telling her she's the most beautiful girl in the whole wide room would be better, technically it's still true but it's not quite kind is it? It's less true than the truth but more entertaining, it's the massaged truth you're aiming at around women.
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