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Dec 19, 2018 11:47 AM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
The immrddiate withdrawal of 2500 American troops, from Syria, leaves the Kurds abandoned again.
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Dec 19, 2018 1:42 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
tresholder
tresholdertresholderCobble hill, British Columbia Canada13 Posts
Shows how much Trump is in bed with Russia.
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Dec 19, 2018 2:00 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
tresholder: Shows how much Trump is in bed with Russia.
Trump seems to be his own worst enemy.
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Dec 19, 2018 2:48 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
aries1234: Trump seems to be his own worst enemy.
iran wanted to start a war there killing our troops why doesnt the UK help farmers in south america left there to be killed by blacks!
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Dec 19, 2018 3:45 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
reb56: iran wanted to start a war there killing our troops why doesnt the UK help farmers in south america left there to be killed by blacks!
What news channel have you been hallucinating about?
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Dec 19, 2018 3:46 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
aries1234: The immrddiate withdrawal of 2500 American troops, from Syria, leaves the Kurds abandoned again.
Lemon kurds?
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Dec 19, 2018 3:52 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
Bnaughty: Lemon kurds?
I can see you're one of them there intellectualsprofessor
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Dec 19, 2018 4:35 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
aries1234: I can see you're one of them there intellectuals
the lib logic,lol.
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Dec 19, 2018 8:28 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
Worldwanderer
WorldwandererWorldwandererMackay, Queensland Australia4 Threads 25 Posts
Every bit of information that you are making judgements on and having opinions about is what you are wanted to think/know. Sure, it may be fact but then again, it may be concocted and, how much information has been omitted to promote a particular predudice? How would you know? Have you been there, or close; before, after, during all this conflict? Do you know anyone from these countries who can tell you what is really going on? Are you aware of the typical behaviour of these various ethenticities?
Really, we know very little and are being manipulated by the power brokers and the media. If you really want to have an informed opinion, spend a few dollars and go there and have a look around, ask a few questions.
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Dec 19, 2018 8:38 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Bnaughty: What news channel have you been hallucinating about?
I am sure he meant South Africa. Not South America.

My phone goes on auto correct .. by itself too.
My phone still comes up Obama after the word "President".. any min now .. I will destroy it... laugh
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Dec 19, 2018 9:00 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
aries1234: The immrddiate withdrawal of 2500 American troops, from Syria, leaves the Kurds abandoned again.
I keep saying it doh The Military is in 113-120 countries (before Trump), we are at the Russian border with NATO since Obama's last 2 weeks. We are also in the South China sea (before Trump) etc..
Americans are not happy about any of this. We are tierd of Obama's mad bomber tactics. We are tired of playing good cop/bad cop to a world that loves to hate us and hates to love us.
They want us in.. oh help us USA.. and they want us out. They want our money and they disrespect us.. as if we are the parents of ungrateful teenagers.

We want our troops and our money home. We have to guard our own border. boxing #AmericaFirst

"I Don't Care Anymore"
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Dec 19, 2018 9:17 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
good , hopefully the troops are back before christmas so they can be with their families , they did not go there to protect the kurds and not all the arabs are worth the loss of one american .
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Dec 19, 2018 9:41 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
epirb: good , hopefully the troops are back before christmas so they can be with their families , they did not go there to protect the kurds and not all the arabs are worth the loss of one american .
(3:51) Rascal Flatts - "I'll Be Home For Christmas"
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Dec 19, 2018 11:35 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
reb56: iran wanted to start a war there killing our troops why doesnt the UK help farmers in south america left there to be killed by blacks!
do you mean South Africa?confused
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Dec 19, 2018 11:42 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
epirb: good , hopefully the troops are back before christmas so they can be with their families , they did not go there to protect the kurds and not all the arabs are worth the loss of one american .
My common refrain here is "I told you so." No matter what the US does someone like Aries will jump on the bash America boat. What business is US policy of his? If we stay in Afghanistan we are criticized, if we leave we are criticized. So there is no point in worrying about what people from other countries think when the goal is simply to criticizedunno


We need our soldiers here. Hope they will be home for Christmassanta waving
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Dec 19, 2018 11:44 PM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
CossackCat: I keep saying it The Military is in 113-120 countries (before Trump), we are at the Russian border with NATO since Obama's last 2 weeks. We are also in the South China sea (before Trump) etc..
Americans are not happy about any of this. We are tierd of Obama's mad bomber tactics. We are tired of playing good cop/bad cop to a world that loves to hate us and hates to love us.
They want us in.. oh help us USA.. and they want us out. They want our money and they disrespect us.. as if we are the parents of ungrateful teenagers.

We want our troops and our money home. We have to guard our own border. #AmericaFirst

"I Don't Care Anymore"
thumbs up good post CossackCatapplause
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Dec 20, 2018 12:52 AM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
felixis99: ... So there is no point in worrying about what people from other countries think when the goal is simply to criticize


We need our soldiers here. Hope they will be home for Christmas
This brought to mind the logic lesson on compromising.

The rule is to always explain what you accepted / disagreed from each side.

For example: one side says send 100,000 troops.
The other side says zero troops.
The deciding team sends 50,000.
They need to say why they are sending and why the number is chosen. The team supports the military effort, but doesn’t think the strength is necessary. Just an example.

With situations like the Kurds and Syria, we are left without information on why we are or aren’t there and what the real situation is.

Therefore, we, as citizens, have no right to criticize. Otherwise we are just reacting emotionally.

I, for one, hope the Troops are safely home for Christmas. And that those on foreign soil will understand and receive the honor due them for laying their life down to protect others.

It is a noble deed.
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Dec 20, 2018 1:57 AM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
Limun
LimunLimunAbidos, Central Serbia Serbia6 Threads 1 Polls 1,923 Posts
‘Russia wins’:
Fury among the Satanists and Zionists as Trump announces withdrawal from Syria



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Dec 20, 2018 2:52 AM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Good. I remember being told before the Arab Spring that Assad was the most popular Middle Eastern dictator and maybe that’s why it’s not easy to unseat the man.

But where is the Muslim world thanks to its revolutions? Egypt at best can be described as the least worse off. No, you keep your beak out and let the Muslim liberals turn Bolshevik and hang the Saudi royal family. They’re comprised by this neoliberal clintonesque no mans land, they get depicted as libtards and traitors by the islamofascists.
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Dec 20, 2018 3:55 AM CST Kurds deserted by the Americans.
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
aries1234: The immrddiate withdrawal of 2500 American troops, from Syria, leaves the Kurds abandoned again.
Will the greatestb democratic expermiment in the Middle East be allowed to survive this depends to a large extent on Trump. Why:-
Dilemma

04.12.2018

Syria

War and Imperialism Borders and Immigration

The Kurdish Dilemma

By
Edward Hunt

Will the most promising democratic experiment in the Middle East be allowed to survive? The answer increasingly depends on the geopolitical whims of the Trump administration.

Fighters in the Kurdish YPJ (Women’s Protection Units) in 2015. Kurdishstruggle / Flickr

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Throughout the war against ISIS, US military officials have repeatedly praised Kurdish-led militias in Syria for their efforts on the battlefield.

“They have an indomitable will,” Maj. Gen. James Jarrard, the commander of Special Operations against the Islamic State, gushed last year. “They have been ferocious fighters and excellent leaders and pretty amazing tacticians.”

This past February, Gen. Joseph Votel, the commander of US Central Command, told a congressional committee that the Kurdish-led fighters constitute “the most effective force on the ground in Syria against ISIS.”

Since the Islamic State began its reign of terror in Iraq and Syria in 2014, the Kurdish-led forces — consisting of two main groups, the People’s Protection Units (YPG) and the Women’s Protection Units (YPJ) — have indeed played a central role in rolling back ISIS’s gains. But what’s surprising about the constant praise from US officials is that the Kurds are also fighting to lead a leftist social revolution in the northern region of Rojava — hardly the kind of project likely to meet the approval of US policymakers.

Unsurprisingly, not everyone in elite circles agrees that the US military should be allying with the Kurdish revolutionaries. When the partnership first began to take shape, the Wall Street Journal warned about “America’s Marxist Allies Against ISIS.”

Last year, former US diplomat Stuart Jones implored Congress to make sure that ongoing US involvement with the Kurdish-led forces “does not create a political monopoly for a political organization that is really hostile to … US values and ideology.”

In Washington, a big concern is that the Kurdish revolutionaries are carving out an anticapitalist space that firmly rejects the basic premises of the US-led global order. Another major reservation is that the Kurdish revolutionaries have historic ties to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which the US government has classified as a terrorist organization. While US military officials repeatedly deny any ongoing connection between the Kurdish-led forces and the PKK, it’s widely presumed in Washington that the YPG is a PKK affiliate.

With ISIS now facing total defeat in Iraq and Syria, the conflict over the US’s relationship has come to a head: should Washington continue to support the Kurdish-led forces, or should it leave them to confront the many hostile forces trying to destroy their revolution?
What do you think?

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