Living in the USA ( Archived) (31)

If communism was the way it should have been from the beginning, everyone was equal, everyone would have the same salary, farms were owned by the state and the food would have been divided honestly to all the people.
So the garbageman would have the same salary as the president.

Unfortunately communism never was done the way it should be.

Well, thank you for your remarks about wwII, actually we didn't had that subject in historylessons during my schoolperiod. They thought, Vincent van Gogh, and Egypt were more interesting then.

I allready agreed on that. But the USA is causing a part of the problems we are having in Europe, so I guess they have to pay their share.
Don't forget American companies are doing big bussiness in Europe, like KFC, McDonalds, etc. Google, HP, Intel and so on.

Most of these companies hardly pay tax, our government don't dare to ask, for they are afraid these companies will go to other countries, so we loose jobs.
It costs us milliards of euro's each year. With these milliards we could defense our own country.

Also we allowed the USA to have bases on our ground, there are even nukes pointing at Russia in the Netherlands, and Trump has the button to launch them.

So about paying and defending, it work both ways.

Thank you for your polite response. I didn't learn those things in history either. We were taught "Country X did this and that..." It was only as an adult did I understand that it wasn't a "country" but rather business people who had other interests in mind.

As for Communism... There is one major flaw in the theory. It removes one of the Fundamental Rights - the Right to Pursue Happiness.

What is little known is that America was the first failed attempt at Communism. The Pilgrims had left Europe to set up a Utopian society. The form of equality, ie. commune living, failed miserably! A majority of the population perished the first year because the incentive to survive and to defend one's self was shrugged off and placed upon the group as a whole.

There is a certain drive and satisfaction when one takes responsibility for their own survival based upon the consequences of their decisions. But that is a topic for another day.

The point here is that John Smith (?? I think it was him...) decided to disband the commune and make everyone responsible for their own survival. The group no longer had to bear responsibility. It was a key turning point and this realization has been ingrained into the Protestantism that still exists in the American mentality. The person, alone, bears responsibility for their survival - not the governing body - which has its own issues of corruption and greed... Yet, another topic for another day.

Cheers!

This comment is lacking considerably. Sorry.
The "cause" of any problems cannot be attributed to a single source. And causing something doesn't negate the responsibility to "pay their share".

Doing business in other countries does not necessarily result in "problems". Remember that for every business, there are people who are buying the product or agreeing to work for the lower salary. Those are the people who under sell themselves.

"Hardly pay tax"... This makes a claim, but does not have any support. Please show facts and information that would support it, otherwise it does not further the discussion. Thank you.

As for bases, yes, the USA has bases all around. And the US pays for those bases. It comes out of their budget: costs of land, supplies, personal... and I would surmise, given what I have seen here in Eastern Europe, that a portion of the money is dispersed into the local economy.

The assumption that "Trump has the button" is a manipulative tactic to evoke fear. Rationally thinking individuals would know that in a Democracy/Republic as is America, there are checks and balances ingrained to maintain restraint.

Blame cannot be assigned to a single individual.

Wow, I’m never surprised how easily an cs thread can turn into a political thread or to just bad mouthing the USA. I was hoping this thread would would see more American culture music. Oh, well.

But that's about Luxembourg

Believe me we have these problems with many US companies, they're called mailboxcompanies.
Because they only have an official mailbox here. The headquarters are on taxparadises as the Barbados, Hawaii etc.

And also McDonalds is cheating it's personal. I can prove that for I was one of their victims about 28 years back. Working for a month and getting payed for a week, so I couldn't pay my rent etc.
Because I have a handicap they saw me as the worst employee and they wanted to get rid of me.
We worked with clock-cards, check in when you start working, check out when you go change your working uniform for your streetwear again. Each week, they collected these cards, but they said they had only one card over a whole month with my name on it. So they stole the other three, and I had a lousy lawyer who did nothing for me.

Shell is also one of these non-payers.

If you wnat more proof, just search on the internet, you'll find enough I guess.

Well, when the government is asking too much tax, how will you survive? We are forced to pay about 20% of our income to pay rent 10% for healthinsurance, 21% for foods, drinks and everything else we want to buy, more than 30% tax over our income, my energybill is also about 10%, then some other small costs, so not even 9% of my income is for me.

And that while I worked hard to get the salary, not the government is working for it, so they shouldn't take so much money from me.