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Feb 21, 2019 4:50 AM CST Socialism ?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Basically socialism can work amongst friends. The clue is in the name. You don't bring it to Mr Nobody Love.
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Feb 21, 2019 5:21 AM CST Socialism ?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
But this isn't what a socialist is particularly in America. By this century it's the few against the many, a classroom warfare against the majority who got invited to wicked parties. Nothing they stand for socially supports their economics. Open borders would see something actually socialist - like the NHS - privatised eventually. Feminism and LGBT enrage the working class.
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Feb 21, 2019 5:24 AM CST Socialism ?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
But the actual socialist is not what a socialist is now particularly in America. By this century it's the few against the many, misfits against the normal, a classroom warfare against the majority who got invited to wicked parties. Nothing they stand for socially supports their economics. Open borders would see something actually socialist - like the NHS - privatised. Feminism and LGBT demonstrate the fact that they're a social cripple.
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Feb 21, 2019 5:38 AM CST Socialism ?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
When you actually take money from the rich and give it to the poor, give the working class that breathing space, women then choose to work part-time in a creche. The outcome is in many ways more conservative than the one that comes from being under the boot of the boss.
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Feb 21, 2019 7:09 AM CST Socialism ?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
There's something in its critique of capitalism but you're not likely to come up with anything better. Nothing polices people like money can and only rarely can you free people from this duress without them degenerating into a dickhead.
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Feb 21, 2019 9:16 AM CST Socialism ?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
If Democratic Socialism is NOT Anti-Capitalism...

... then What in the hell was Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez fighting for in New York???

She harassed Amazon with her Socialist agenda so badly that Amazon decided Not to bring their New Headquarters to her district as they had planned.

She Cheered herself for standing Against Capitalism and Winning a Victory!
The video is on the thread about her in USA Forum.

Geezefrustrated
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Feb 21, 2019 9:40 AM CST Socialism ?
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
Conrad73: who will pay for it,Sunshine?
the billions we have to make nuclear weapons.beer
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Feb 21, 2019 9:46 AM CST Socialism ?
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
Conrad73: she will stare you into the ground with those Peepers!
Conrad. if socialism leads to communism, then why you are
a Trump supporter? Trump allied with communist Russia, did you know that?
No, you don't. You're a fanatic, like in fanatismlaugh
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Feb 21, 2019 9:52 AM CST Socialism ?
Liberal1
Liberal1Liberal1Summerfield, Florida USA3 Threads 373 Posts
HealthyLiving: If Democratic Socialism is NOT Anti-Capitalism...

... then What in the hell was Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez fighting for in New York???

She harassed Amazon with her Socialist agenda so badly that Amazon decided Not to bring their New Headquarters to her district as they had planned.

She Cheered herself for standing Against Capitalism and Winning a Victory!
The video is on the thread about her in USA Forum.

Geeze
Some on the Far Left are just as wrong as people like you on the Far Right!

Democratic Socialism can't work without Capitalism! Nothing is FREE!

We all have to work and build and create and contribute for it to work!

We have seen that Communism as well as Fascism does NOT Work! Both are Dysfunctional Extremes!

Working together in a Capitalistic Society can, will and must work!

If we don't come together we will surly perish as a Society!
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Feb 21, 2019 10:03 AM CST Socialism ?
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
with all the billions USA spent on arming others countries

we can have free health care, and free college, and free home for
everyonebeer
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Feb 21, 2019 10:06 AM CST Socialism ?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Liberal1: Some on the Far Left are just as wrong as people like you on the Far Right!

Democratic Socialism can't work without Capitalism! Nothing is FREE!

We all have to work and build and create and contribute for it to work!

We have seen that Communism as well as Fascism does NOT Work! Both are Dysfunctional Extremes!

Working together in a Capitalistic Society can, will and must work!

If we don't come together we will surly perish as a Society!
So You Admit AOC is Wrong?
She is the #1 Advocate and Member of the Democratic Socialist of America.

"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has been making headlines lately. Twenty-eight-year-old Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won her primary in New York’s 14th district on Tuesday."

"Democratic socialism means that this political reality—the abolition of capitalism—will be achieved and administered through democratic, as opposed to authoritarian, means.

DSA’s website explains: “Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.”

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Feb 21, 2019 10:24 AM CST Socialism ?
Liberal1: Some on the Far Left are just as wrong as people like you on the Far Right!

Democratic Socialism can't work without Capitalism! Nothing is FREE!

We all have to work and build and create and contribute for it to work!

We have seen that Communism as well as Fascism does NOT Work! Both are Dysfunctional Extremes!

Working together in a Capitalistic Society can, will and must work!

If we don't come together we will surly perish as a Society!
look who is the fascist now,hankering for private Property with Government-Control!
Apparently you are loving Crony-"Capitalism"!
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Feb 21, 2019 11:06 AM CST Socialism ?
Liberal1
Liberal1Liberal1Summerfield, Florida USA3 Threads 373 Posts
HealthyLiving: So You Admit AOC is Wrong?
She is the #1 Advocate and Member of the Democratic Socialist of America.

"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has been making headlines lately. Twenty-eight-year-old Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won her primary in New York’s 14th district on Tuesday."

"Democratic socialism means that this political reality—the abolition of capitalism—will be achieved and administered through democratic, as opposed to authoritarian, means.

DSA’s website explains: “Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.”

Posting a rant like this rather than debating the substance of my post shows that you have no desire to seriously discuss the issues!

Just like every other Fascist on this site and everywhere else you want to shove your narrow point of view done everyone else's throat force mob rule and Dictatorship on the rest of us!

You are not worthy of debate!
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Feb 21, 2019 11:32 AM CST Socialism ?
Tuesday2018
Tuesday2018Tuesday2018mayo, Mayo Ireland1 Threads 230 Posts
Liberal1: Socialism means different things to different people but the concept of Democratic Socialism has been and will be demonized by the Right! As I've said before, there is good Socialism and there is bad Socialism!

Taking funds from the masses to benefit the few is bad Socialism e.g. Corporate Welfare and Tax subsidies for the most profitable companies and individuals!

Taking funds from the masses and investing it into the Society it springs from in ways that benefits everyone in that Society, is good Socialism!

Universal Health Care, higher and lower Education, a living wage and a social safety net that assures the least among us is not left to suffer is all good Socialism!

Everyone in the Society will contribute to these things in the best way they can! It's NOT FREE! Everyone contributes what they can and everyone benefits from it!

The rich will continue to get richer but not at the expense of the poor but rather in partnership with ALL! Every one does better!

EVERYONE!
Yes but what we do have is socialism for the elite and capitalism for the ordinary people.....where the big mulitnationals and seriously welthy can avail of dirt low taxes whilst the workers and poor are tightly controlled by very stringent laws and taxes....however, that said...Ireland is probably one of the few remaining socialist countries..but it's being undermined by the likes of Joan Burton and Fine Gael.....and the middle class morons who begrudge a lone parent a roof over her head or a helping hand with money....they dojn't realise that the reason Ireland is such a safe country to live in is because we treat the poorest of the poor far better than the likes of the US.....
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Feb 21, 2019 12:05 PM CST Socialism ?
Liberal1
Liberal1Liberal1Summerfield, Florida USA3 Threads 373 Posts
Tuesday2018: Yes but what we do have is socialism for the elite and capitalism for the ordinary people.....where the big mulitnationals and seriously welthy can avail of dirt low taxes whilst the workers and poor are tightly controlled by very stringent laws and taxes....however, that said...Ireland is probably one of the few remaining socialist countries..but it's being undermined by the likes of Joan Burton and Fine Gael.....and the middle class morons who begrudge a lone parent a roof over her head or a helping hand with money....they dojn't realise that the reason Ireland is such a safe country to live in is because we treat the poorest of the poor far better than the likes of the US.....
Finally! A rational post!

Yes we do currently have Socialism for the rich and tightly controlled Capitalism for everyone else! Designed to keep the poor and middle classes in their place and limit upward mobility for the elite few!

This is why Democratic Socialism is the only way to break this cycle of domination over the masses!

This is why the founding fathers gave us a Democratic Republic! Freedom for ALL to pursue life, liberty and happiness!

We are stronger together!
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Feb 21, 2019 12:22 PM CST Socialism ?
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
Socialism, is not a political party, like communism.
So, if China adopted capitalism under communism
then, here in USA, we can adopt socialism under capitalism
it would work just as well.
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Feb 21, 2019 12:26 PM CST Socialism ?
methuzelah: Socialism, is not a political party, like communism.
So, if China adopted capitalism under communism
then, here in USA, we can adopt socialism under capitalism
it would work just as well.
rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 21, 2019 12:28 PM CST Socialism ?
Liberal1
Liberal1Liberal1Summerfield, Florida USA3 Threads 373 Posts
An emoji is not a comment! Not that you ever have anything meaningful to say!
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Feb 21, 2019 12:31 PM CST Socialism ?
Liberal1
Liberal1Liberal1Summerfield, Florida USA3 Threads 373 Posts
Conrad73: look who is the fascist now,hankering for private Property with Government-Control!
Apparently you are loving Crony-"Capitalism"!
Like this nonsensical gibberish! I didn't respond to it before because it made absolutely no sense and is based on.....well nothing!
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Feb 21, 2019 12:33 PM CST Socialism ?
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
Conrad, all you can do is, laugh with an emoticon?
And I thought you were kind of intelligent personrolling on the floor laughing just for you
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