Do we really intend to Love Forever? ( Archived) (89)

Feb 24, 2019 5:35 AM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
bodleing2: No, not an intention but a state of awareness of our true nature.
To give love without wanting or expecting anything in return is true love from the heart.

Romantic love is a state of being and always has a degree of self interest lurking beneath the surface. If that self interest is not satisfied, eventually romantic love fades and can turn into the opposite of love which is indifference, or maybe even change to hatred
Giving love without expecting anything is a very nice thought...but in reality everyone wants to see the result of their love... Kind of appreciation, you know...
Nobody can love endlessly when met with ungratefulness and coldness...no matter what kind of love it is...
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Feb 24, 2019 6:35 AM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
pKrema: Giving love without expecting anything is a very nice thought...but in reality everyone wants to see the result of their love... Kind of appreciation, you know...
Nobody can love endlessly when met with ungratefulness and coldness...no matter what kind of love it is...
Only if the love is reciprocated, can there be Eternal Love. We are talking here about the love between 2 people, that does not check out the display at a party, try to make you jealous, or devalue you. To each other there are only themselves, and the eventual children born out of the association, or adopted out of never ending love for their family. Yes Eternal Love is very possible, but only if you are dependable, and not always on the lookout for another new, and never happy with what you have. Eternal love last for eternity. Yes after death too. It is not often that you find this, but I was lucky enough to have observed it in my grandma and granddad. These people love unconditionally, and you feel it.
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Feb 24, 2019 6:40 AM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
pKrema: Giving love without expecting anything is a very nice thought...but in reality everyone wants to see the result of their love... Kind of appreciation, you know...
Nobody can love endlessly when met with ungratefulness and coldness...no matter what kind of love it is...
Unconditional love, agape, or sometimes referred to as, somewhat oxymoronally, disinterested love, is very rare, but it does exist.
I've only ever met a handful of people who were fully capable of it.
But there are degrees and degrees of it can be found in long term loving relationships, where when things get rocky a degree of true love holds things together.
But it's good to recognise that many loving relationships entirely depend on give and take. When the fine balance of this unspoken deal goes astray, the relationship suffers and quite often comes to a swift and maybe unpleasant end.
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Feb 24, 2019 7:50 AM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
bodleing2: Unconditional love, agape, or sometimes referred to as, somewhat oxymoronally, disinterested love, is very rare, but it does exist.
I've only ever met a handful of people who were fully capable of it.
But there are degrees and degrees of it can be found in long term loving relationships, where when things get rocky a degree of true love holds things together.
But it's good to recognise that many loving relationships entirely depend on give and take. When the fine balance of this unspoken deal goes astray, the relationship suffers and quite often comes to a swift and maybe unpleasant end.
i think it's rare to find someone who truly practices unconditional love...up close and regularly.
it's so much easier to love someone unconditionally from a distance....laugh

i do think if one believes they are practicing unconditional love, it will be evidenced by their giving, not their taking or receiving. and that might just be giving space.

i have met folks that live from their heart and it's their heart that guides them. love comes from the heart.
as long as one is thinking about it, that's a good indication they are still in their head and not in their heart. love in action is not the same as thinking about love in your head. if it's in your head...me thinks that's probably ego....justifying self.....

on the way to agape, one can practice commitment to an us...with the fine balance of give and take..till one can become detached from outcome.
i see it like a teeter totter.... when it becomes out of balance and stays with one end on the ground without the movement....the relationship slides down and off the teeter totter. then they have a choice...walk away and find a different teeter totter, or get back on and rebalance so the us begins to move (grow) again. either way they should be conscious of the person they have left in the air at the other end of the teeter totter...

laugh dunno
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Feb 24, 2019 8:04 AM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
bodleing2: No, not an intention but a state of awareness of our true nature.
To give love without wanting or expecting anything in return is true love from the heart.

Romantic love is a state of being and always has a degree of self interest lurking beneath the surface. If that self interest is not satisfied, eventually romantic love fades and can turn into the opposite of love which is indifference, or maybe even change to hatred
i think you are right. one can tell themselves their love is agape...but the proof is in the pudding.
if one acts with indifference, or even worse, disdain for another....they may be telling themselves it's agape...but the evidence supports that they are kidding themselves about the agape. just cuz you name something, doesn't mean it's true...

and while one may strive for agape, i think it's ok to practice love however one can, beginning with self love. accepting oneself with all their flaws...can lead to accepting others with all their flaws.

a choice made in one's mind, often leads to action. so choose love. and ask self, "what would love do?"
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Feb 24, 2019 4:47 PM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
InstincThis
InstincThisInstincThishere, Utah USA14 Threads 1 Polls 2,045 Posts
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Feb 25, 2019 3:52 AM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
You really have a strange way of looking at things in general. This thread is about Loving forever.
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Feb 25, 2019 2:00 PM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
InstincThis
InstincThisInstincThishere, Utah USA14 Threads 1 Polls 2,045 Posts
smiley963: You really have a strange way of looking at things in general. This thread is about Loving forever.
ok. Never say never, unless Its intended to last forever.
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Feb 26, 2019 6:31 AM CST Do we really intend to Love Forever?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
InstincThis: ok. Never say never, unless Its intended to last forever.
You do like playing with words!
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