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Butcher559: A rocket was fired at a house north of Tel Alviv today which injured 7 people in the house it hit, Netanyahu has cancelled his speech at AIPAC rally in the US to concentrate on attacking the Gaza strip.
I wonder how many Palistinians will pay with their lives in the coming airstrikes and military strikes.
Yesterday, a Palestinian man was spotted driving his car into Israel without current insurance.I wonder how many Palistinians will pay with their lives in the coming airstrikes and military strikes.
To stop this appalling behaviour, the Israeli military bombed eleven apartment buildings in the city block where the man is believed to have been living. They are confident that no more than a couple of hundred of hundred innocent people were killed.
The US State Department praised the Israeli armed forces for their commendable restraint.
No, not a real news story, but not so far off the mark, eh?
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charles_nz: Yesterday, a Palestinian man was spotted driving his car into Israel without current insurance.
To stop this appalling behaviour, the Israeli military bombed eleven apartment buildings in the city block where the man is believed to have been living. They are confident that no more than a couple of hundred of hundred innocent people were killed.
The US State Department praised the Israeli armed forces for their commendable restraint.
No, not a real news story, but not so far off the mark, eh?
Thats a very ugly untrue story. Why even bother repeating it? To stop this appalling behaviour, the Israeli military bombed eleven apartment buildings in the city block where the man is believed to have been living. They are confident that no more than a couple of hundred of hundred innocent people were killed.
The US State Department praised the Israeli armed forces for their commendable restraint.
No, not a real news story, but not so far off the mark, eh?
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galrads: Thats a very ugly untrue story. Why even bother repeating it?
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robplum:
Image: Troubling signs New Zealand shooting is being used to turn my country into Islamic State
(Natural News) March 21, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – I live in New Zealand. I’ve become alarmed at developments in my country since the shootings last Friday. What I see unfolding seems so disproportionate to the magnitude of the crime. It seems like I’ve woken up and all of a sudden live in an Islamic State.
(Article by Michelle Kaufman republished from LifeSiteNews.com)
Here are some highlights of what’s unfolding:
The thought police are out in full force and people are being scrutinized for “hate speech”. Green ribbons are being worn as a symbol against hate.
Mosques and many of the prayer rooms continue to be protected by armed police (police aren’t usually armed in my country).
Vigils are being held all over the place in solidarity with the victims. These seem to have morphed into what amounts to support for the Islamic religion. One Catholic bishop held one last Sunday afternoon in the Ponsonby church. After prayers there, they processed over to the mosque, which is on the opposite side of the road and prayed and met there.
Whitcoulls, one of our book stores, probably the oldest, has removed Jordan Peterson’s book “12 Rules for Life” from its shelves because he was photographed with a member of the public wearing an anti-Islamic t-shirt while he was in New Zealand recently. Apparently, that’s being construed as him having something to do with the madman’s agenda.
On Tuesday a Muslim prayer was said in Parliament. Just recently all Christian prayer in Parliament was removed.
On Friday March 22 at 1:30pm New Zealand will be called to prayer…Islamic prayer that is. And we will be expected to keep 2 minutes silence after they read the Muslim prayer acknowledging Allah as “great” and Muhammad as his “prophet.” The call to prayer will be broadcasted on national radio stations and TV as well.
One top Catholic Church leader will go to the local mosque (Kilbirnie) as well on Friday to stand outside during their prayers as an act of solidarity. The Catholic bishops here have been very sympathetic and playing out their “inter-faith role” with great enthusiasm.
Catholic school students have been praying inside mosques.
It seems like we’re living in a different world all of a sudden. It seems that showing our great respect for those who were killed has somehow been manipulated into showing affirmation of the Islamic religion.
New Zealand is now putty in the Islamists’ hands.
The shooting on Friday was terrible. But what has now unfolded is something else entirely and may just be the beginning of something very terrible for New Zealand
The writer of this piece shares the same concerns that I do.Image: Troubling signs New Zealand shooting is being used to turn my country into Islamic State
(Natural News) March 21, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – I live in New Zealand. I’ve become alarmed at developments in my country since the shootings last Friday. What I see unfolding seems so disproportionate to the magnitude of the crime. It seems like I’ve woken up and all of a sudden live in an Islamic State.
(Article by Michelle Kaufman republished from LifeSiteNews.com)
Here are some highlights of what’s unfolding:
The thought police are out in full force and people are being scrutinized for “hate speech”. Green ribbons are being worn as a symbol against hate.
Mosques and many of the prayer rooms continue to be protected by armed police (police aren’t usually armed in my country).
Vigils are being held all over the place in solidarity with the victims. These seem to have morphed into what amounts to support for the Islamic religion. One Catholic bishop held one last Sunday afternoon in the Ponsonby church. After prayers there, they processed over to the mosque, which is on the opposite side of the road and prayed and met there.
Whitcoulls, one of our book stores, probably the oldest, has removed Jordan Peterson’s book “12 Rules for Life” from its shelves because he was photographed with a member of the public wearing an anti-Islamic t-shirt while he was in New Zealand recently. Apparently, that’s being construed as him having something to do with the madman’s agenda.
On Tuesday a Muslim prayer was said in Parliament. Just recently all Christian prayer in Parliament was removed.
On Friday March 22 at 1:30pm New Zealand will be called to prayer…Islamic prayer that is. And we will be expected to keep 2 minutes silence after they read the Muslim prayer acknowledging Allah as “great” and Muhammad as his “prophet.” The call to prayer will be broadcasted on national radio stations and TV as well.
One top Catholic Church leader will go to the local mosque (Kilbirnie) as well on Friday to stand outside during their prayers as an act of solidarity. The Catholic bishops here have been very sympathetic and playing out their “inter-faith role” with great enthusiasm.
Catholic school students have been praying inside mosques.
It seems like we’re living in a different world all of a sudden. It seems that showing our great respect for those who were killed has somehow been manipulated into showing affirmation of the Islamic religion.
New Zealand is now putty in the Islamists’ hands.
The shooting on Friday was terrible. But what has now unfolded is something else entirely and may just be the beginning of something very terrible for New Zealand
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yeah me to, whats already occurred has probably already cemented a path to an islamic state.
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robplum: yeah me to, whats already occurred has probably already cemented a path to an islamic state.
Personally, my concern is more that our neo-Marxist governing elite will use this incident to crack down on conservatism, and any non-PC thoughts and expression.But there is definitely a possibility that this was designed to promote Islam. As I have said on these boards before, the alleged gunman had spent time in Pakistan, and may conceivably be an undercover Jihadist. On the other hand, he might not be. But either way, he has played into the hands of both the Islamists and the far-left PC brigade.
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New Zealand’s image as a peaceful nation isolated from the world’s problems was shaken by the recent Christchurch terrorist attacks, but it appears that the country’s response has had an unexpected effect: More people than usual have said they want to move there.
In addition to the surge of inquiries from Americans, there was a big boost in registrations from people in predominantly Muslim countries. People from Pakistan — where nine of the victims were from — made 333 registrations after the attack, compared with 65 in the 10 days before it. People in Malaysia made 165 applications, compared with 67 in the period leading up to the attack.
New York Times
Russian banks join Chinese alternative to SWIFT payment system
Several Russian banks have joined the China International Payments System (CIPS), to ease operations between the two countries, according to a senior official at the Central Bank of Russia (CBR).
In addition to the surge of inquiries from Americans, there was a big boost in registrations from people in predominantly Muslim countries. People from Pakistan — where nine of the victims were from — made 333 registrations after the attack, compared with 65 in the 10 days before it. People in Malaysia made 165 applications, compared with 67 in the period leading up to the attack.
New York Times
Russian banks join Chinese alternative to SWIFT payment system
Several Russian banks have joined the China International Payments System (CIPS), to ease operations between the two countries, according to a senior official at the Central Bank of Russia (CBR).
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robplum: New Zealand’s image as a peaceful nation isolated from the world’s problems was shaken by the recent Christchurch terrorist attacks, but it appears that the country’s response has had an unexpected effect: More people than usual have said they want to move there.
In addition to the surge of inquiries from Americans, there was a big boost in registrations from people in predominantly Muslim countries. People from Pakistan — where nine of the victims were from — made 333 registrations after the attack, compared with 65 in the 10 days before it. People in Malaysia made 165 applications, compared with 67 in the period leading up to the attack.
New York Times
Russian banks join Chinese alternative to SWIFT payment system
Several Russian banks have joined the China International Payments System (CIPS), to ease operations between the two countries, according to a senior official at the Central Bank of Russia (CBR).
Life is going to get really hard before thoughtless beneficence stops being the deciding factor in what we do. Our people will do anything for a transient warm feeling. So shallow. It’s as if we’ve forgotten all those spare bedrooms offered at the onset of the refugee crisis, they’ve all gone quiet about doing that now.In addition to the surge of inquiries from Americans, there was a big boost in registrations from people in predominantly Muslim countries. People from Pakistan — where nine of the victims were from — made 333 registrations after the attack, compared with 65 in the 10 days before it. People in Malaysia made 165 applications, compared with 67 in the period leading up to the attack.
New York Times
Russian banks join Chinese alternative to SWIFT payment system
Several Russian banks have joined the China International Payments System (CIPS), to ease operations between the two countries, according to a senior official at the Central Bank of Russia (CBR).
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A lot of issues are surfacing I think. The extent of Right Wing groups around the globe to my mind displays lot division right across the planet, While clearly a generally sought safety away from the middle east and African conflicts, a lot of Imam's told their flocks to go west/forth and multiply.
It is why Australia did its best to stamp out the often fatal illegal boats from heading this way. At an early stage the Chinese Government threatened John Howard they would flood Australia with Chinese boat people, which hasn't materialized. Just been reading interesting article in NZ news that is lot more extensive than following shortened copy:
In the aftermath of the Christchurch attacks, the Mongrel Mob was criticised for having used sieg heil slogans and swastikas. The Waikato chapter stopped the practice four years ago.
The gang was also criticised for offering to provide security around mosques at services marking the death of 50 Muslims in the Christchurch terror attack. This was a crude PR ploy and gang members would turn in their own guns if they were genuine, one commentator suggested.
It is why Australia did its best to stamp out the often fatal illegal boats from heading this way. At an early stage the Chinese Government threatened John Howard they would flood Australia with Chinese boat people, which hasn't materialized. Just been reading interesting article in NZ news that is lot more extensive than following shortened copy:
In the aftermath of the Christchurch attacks, the Mongrel Mob was criticised for having used sieg heil slogans and swastikas. The Waikato chapter stopped the practice four years ago.
The gang was also criticised for offering to provide security around mosques at services marking the death of 50 Muslims in the Christchurch terror attack. This was a crude PR ploy and gang members would turn in their own guns if they were genuine, one commentator suggested.
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Here in northland the muslim community is slowly growing but its not a problem, i think the NZ refugee quoter is 1500 and i think we are taking a 1000 a year.. I think the govt is pretty much on ball with immigration.
I think NZ govt has the opportunity to ask about possible execution laws in reguards to terrorism, i guess they would asking the ICC and UN.. I have no info on terrorism laws.
Bring execution laws into dealing with actions of terrorisim will make the terrorist think twice about their actions and a law like this cuts through nationality and relegion .. NZ govt can also extend this to include the NZ isis prisoner in Syria, and can up our mess there.
I think NZ govt has the opportunity to ask about possible execution laws in reguards to terrorism, i guess they would asking the ICC and UN.. I have no info on terrorism laws.
Bring execution laws into dealing with actions of terrorisim will make the terrorist think twice about their actions and a law like this cuts through nationality and relegion .. NZ govt can also extend this to include the NZ isis prisoner in Syria, and can up our mess there.
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Tarrant already complaining, he wants a phone call and access to news, he hasn't even been in a month.
They are holding him at parry max sercuity prison.
Not much news coming out of Israel, Gaza or Golan, there must a be a big media blackout in that area at the moment.
China making deals all week in EU, they are doing well.
US try to give Golan away and trying to tell Russia to get out of Venezuela.
They are holding him at parry max sercuity prison.
Not much news coming out of Israel, Gaza or Golan, there must a be a big media blackout in that area at the moment.
China making deals all week in EU, they are doing well.
US try to give Golan away and trying to tell Russia to get out of Venezuela.
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BerrySmoothie: The article which you sourced the above, originates from a right-wing Amercian based website, though no real surprise there Rob, as that's where you lean.
The author of the article, an "apparent" New Zealander, though this is not verified, is, of course entitled to an opinion, as indeed, are you.......though it does not align with the majority of New Zealanders.
The article, just scaremongering, at its best.
Your far-left political views also do not align with the silent majority of New Zealanders. But that's life.The author of the article, an "apparent" New Zealander, though this is not verified, is, of course entitled to an opinion, as indeed, are you.......though it does not align with the majority of New Zealanders.
The article, just scaremongering, at its best.
Scare-mongering? Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel safer. The rest of us know NZ is on a path away from freedom and common sense.
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charles_nz: A sad indictment on New Zealand.
Tens of thousands of people turn out to mourn fifty Muslims killed in an horrific and unjustifiable mass murder.
How many turn out to mourn the tens of thousands of babies murdered in an horrific and unjustifiable Holocaust of baby-killing? 600.
It'd be laughable if it wasn't such a tragic indictment on this country.
To answer you question I can offer the following reasoning:Tens of thousands of people turn out to mourn fifty Muslims killed in an horrific and unjustifiable mass murder.
How many turn out to mourn the tens of thousands of babies murdered in an horrific and unjustifiable Holocaust of baby-killing? 600.
It'd be laughable if it wasn't such a tragic indictment on this country.
Mahayana Buddhist under qualified guidance, spend quite a lot of time contemplating reality, which includes lengthy meditation on emptiness. < >
A philosophy founded upon utilizing enhanced ability for contemplation using logic and reason. Student individuals we try to qualify what actually is....
Which includes contemplation on birth, death and the intermediate state the Bardo.
Mahayana Buddhist find understanding our true nature is moving energy (the subtle winds) that like all sentient beings has been migrating from life to life since beginningless time. < > (Sentient refers to all beings that have mind and fear death)
At conception the subtle winds, female and male join forming all the necessary building blocks (in the case mankind) all the building blocks of human rebirth. Throughout life our bodies are in a constant flux of change, from conception until breath goes out and doesn't come back in, our subtle levels of consciousness enters the bardo states and as the case maybe according to our karma take rebirth.
Therefore according to ones karma and if conception is human embryo, then human, taking human life is usually called murder, no different than Tarrant engaged in. Is murder...
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robplum: To answer you question I can offer the following reasoning:
Mahayana Buddhist under qualified guidance, spend quite a lot of time contemplating reality, which includes lengthy meditation on emptiness. < >
A philosophy founded upon utilizing enhanced ability for contemplation using logic and reason. Student individuals we try to qualify what actually is....
I didn't actually ask a question - only a rhetorical one I have already answered.Mahayana Buddhist under qualified guidance, spend quite a lot of time contemplating reality, which includes lengthy meditation on emptiness. < >
A philosophy founded upon utilizing enhanced ability for contemplation using logic and reason. Student individuals we try to qualify what actually is....
Anyway, Buddhism is not the answer, but I respect your beliefs and I regard a Buddhist as preferable to an Atheist.
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I tried to correctly answer your question in relation to that matter.
I spend well over an hour responding to your question because clearly others teach other. Most people I guess simply don't understand that in every respect; from conception all the building blocks of human life is already present.
Bill English ex NZ Prime Minister, lead (and or) fully supported the right to life march quoted and however the current PM seeks to remove murder as a crime, because she clearly doesn't realize doing so is the same as Tarrant engaged in, just different motivation. Killing human being is still murder whether feminist understand that or not. Taking life whether a human embryo, innocent muslim, unarmed defenseless civilians or any form of unprovoked killing is murder.
The root cause of suffering is self interests.
I spend well over an hour responding to your question because clearly others teach other. Most people I guess simply don't understand that in every respect; from conception all the building blocks of human life is already present.
Bill English ex NZ Prime Minister, lead (and or) fully supported the right to life march quoted and however the current PM seeks to remove murder as a crime, because she clearly doesn't realize doing so is the same as Tarrant engaged in, just different motivation. Killing human being is still murder whether feminist understand that or not. Taking life whether a human embryo, innocent muslim, unarmed defenseless civilians or any form of unprovoked killing is murder.
The root cause of suffering is self interests.
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Brexit does in fact feel a lot like the divorce with the kids being used as ammunition.
And yes the youth for the most part side with mum(remain)but if yourself what is millennial populism the answer is to be born when the baby boomers were. Youth does not actually believe that dad's belief in the good old days is unfounded.
And yes the youth for the most part side with mum(remain)but if yourself what is millennial populism the answer is to be born when the baby boomers were. Youth does not actually believe that dad's belief in the good old days is unfounded.
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ChesneyChrist: Because you can never be in that position it makes it look like your someone who uses the kids as ammunition.
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Libyan national army is making its way to Tripoli to topple the US puppet govt or terrorist govt.
$7 billion worth of military equipment has been looted from US military base in Afghanistan, so the tali barney's will be armed to the teeth now.. on ya America throw the military gear around like its harmless.
Brenton tarrant goes to court today and he has got a lawyer, it was said he would rep himself.
Saudi's looking at buying a nuke powerplant, US said to be building it... but the Saudi's also not happy about Golan situation.
$7 billion worth of military equipment has been looted from US military base in Afghanistan, so the tali barney's will be armed to the teeth now.. on ya America throw the military gear around like its harmless.
Brenton tarrant goes to court today and he has got a lawyer, it was said he would rep himself.
Saudi's looking at buying a nuke powerplant, US said to be building it... but the Saudi's also not happy about Golan situation.
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A Kiwi lad's death by drone
TONY WALL, BLAIR ENSOR AND ANDREA VANCE
Last updated 05:00 27/07/2014
When the Jones boys converted to Islam, it caused quite a stir in Christchurch.
Suddenly Daryl and his younger brother Nathan, who grew up in a strong Christian house, were sporting beards, learning Arabic and wearing flowing robes. Carloads of Muslims, including immigrant women in veils, would turn up at the family's home in a smart east Christchurch suburb, neighbours tut-tutting and muttering about terrorists.
Some who knew the family accepted the conversion, others struggled. When Daryl was in his early 20s and still flirting with Islam, he surprised the family of a Christian friend he was visiting when he suddenly declared he had to go to the far end of the house to pray towards Mecca. "We thought it was weird," said the friend's mother.
All of this upset the boys' parents - the father a former Australian police officer doing security for a government organisation, the mother employed by a Christchurch tertiary institution. The Sunday Star-Times has decided not to name the parents to protect their privacy. They declined interviews and have told friends not to speak to the media.
Daryl, 30 when he died, moved to Sydney around 2008 and converted to Islam soon after arriving. Nathan, still in Christchurch, converted soon after with the help of Saudi Arabian students he was friendly with.
"The parents desperately wanted both the boys to leave Islam. They had seen their sons change dramatically in appearance - it's scary for parents when that happens," a source said.
Mr and Mrs Jones turned to their New Life Church for help, and were put in touch with some people with knowledge of Islam to teach them more about it and hopefully convince Nathan to re-think his decision. He listened politely to the delegation, but rejected the advice.
In Sydney, Daryl began attending the Lakemba Mosque, known as a hotbed of radicalism, and drew the attention of counter-terrorism authorities because of the company he kept.
He changed his name to Muslim bin John, married a Somali woman and around 2009 headed to Saudi Arabia and then Yemen, ancestral home of Osama bin Laden and home base of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). He told his family he wanted to teach English and help people. But a source said Jones was thrown in prison in Yemen because he was not a registered teacher, leaving his wife and four children stranded. His parents arranged for the family to come to Christchurch, where they remain.
The family last heard from Daryl around May 2012, then lost all contact. The strain on his parents' marriage was immense, and they separated.
After the 2011 earthquakes Mrs Jones spent time in a motor home, staying at a caravan park near Christchurch. She gave the impression of a lost soul, said those who knew her. Residents of the park remember her saying her son was "missing" in the Middle East and she had asked church groups to help find him. She seemed very depressed and had had some sort of falling out with her daughter-in-law.
When news of Daryl's death finally filtered through after DNA was used to identify the remains, Mrs Jones fell apart.
"No-one really has any answers, it makes the grieving process very difficult," said a friend. "As a parent, who wouldn't be devastated that someone can flick a switch and your child is gone? It's absolutely devastating. This is a completely broken woman. To lose a child this way. Who makes these decisions to murder your child, and doesn't even let you know what happened?"
Born in Australia on September 14, 1983, Daryl Anthony Jones and his family moved to New Zealand, his mother's home country, when he was about six or seven. Those who knew Jones used the same words to describe him: quiet, shy, soft-spoken, gentle, polite.
"Nathan seemed a good kid too," said a source. "I think the two boys woul
TONY WALL, BLAIR ENSOR AND ANDREA VANCE
Last updated 05:00 27/07/2014
When the Jones boys converted to Islam, it caused quite a stir in Christchurch.
Suddenly Daryl and his younger brother Nathan, who grew up in a strong Christian house, were sporting beards, learning Arabic and wearing flowing robes. Carloads of Muslims, including immigrant women in veils, would turn up at the family's home in a smart east Christchurch suburb, neighbours tut-tutting and muttering about terrorists.
Some who knew the family accepted the conversion, others struggled. When Daryl was in his early 20s and still flirting with Islam, he surprised the family of a Christian friend he was visiting when he suddenly declared he had to go to the far end of the house to pray towards Mecca. "We thought it was weird," said the friend's mother.
All of this upset the boys' parents - the father a former Australian police officer doing security for a government organisation, the mother employed by a Christchurch tertiary institution. The Sunday Star-Times has decided not to name the parents to protect their privacy. They declined interviews and have told friends not to speak to the media.
Daryl, 30 when he died, moved to Sydney around 2008 and converted to Islam soon after arriving. Nathan, still in Christchurch, converted soon after with the help of Saudi Arabian students he was friendly with.
"The parents desperately wanted both the boys to leave Islam. They had seen their sons change dramatically in appearance - it's scary for parents when that happens," a source said.
Mr and Mrs Jones turned to their New Life Church for help, and were put in touch with some people with knowledge of Islam to teach them more about it and hopefully convince Nathan to re-think his decision. He listened politely to the delegation, but rejected the advice.
In Sydney, Daryl began attending the Lakemba Mosque, known as a hotbed of radicalism, and drew the attention of counter-terrorism authorities because of the company he kept.
He changed his name to Muslim bin John, married a Somali woman and around 2009 headed to Saudi Arabia and then Yemen, ancestral home of Osama bin Laden and home base of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). He told his family he wanted to teach English and help people. But a source said Jones was thrown in prison in Yemen because he was not a registered teacher, leaving his wife and four children stranded. His parents arranged for the family to come to Christchurch, where they remain.
The family last heard from Daryl around May 2012, then lost all contact. The strain on his parents' marriage was immense, and they separated.
After the 2011 earthquakes Mrs Jones spent time in a motor home, staying at a caravan park near Christchurch. She gave the impression of a lost soul, said those who knew her. Residents of the park remember her saying her son was "missing" in the Middle East and she had asked church groups to help find him. She seemed very depressed and had had some sort of falling out with her daughter-in-law.
When news of Daryl's death finally filtered through after DNA was used to identify the remains, Mrs Jones fell apart.
"No-one really has any answers, it makes the grieving process very difficult," said a friend. "As a parent, who wouldn't be devastated that someone can flick a switch and your child is gone? It's absolutely devastating. This is a completely broken woman. To lose a child this way. Who makes these decisions to murder your child, and doesn't even let you know what happened?"
Born in Australia on September 14, 1983, Daryl Anthony Jones and his family moved to New Zealand, his mother's home country, when he was about six or seven. Those who knew Jones used the same words to describe him: quiet, shy, soft-spoken, gentle, polite.
"Nathan seemed a good kid too," said a source. "I think the two boys woul
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Same religion Saudi young ladies are fleeing, religions version mainstream Indonesians follow.
Having said that I don't condone what Brendon Tarrant did, nor have I supported Bush, Blair, Howard and anybody else that attacked and slaughtered over a million mostly unarmed defenseless Muslims either.
At some stage some commonsense needs to prevail...