World events. (94)

Apr 1, 2019 10:12 PM CST World events.
charles_nz: I didn't actually ask a question - only a rhetorical one I have already answered.

Anyway, Buddhism is not the answer, but I respect your beliefs and I regard a Buddhist as preferable to an Atheist.
You quoted part of my post "The first National March for Life was held in 2018 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of abortion legislation in New Zealand and the more than 500,000 lives lost to abortion. Six hundred people participated in that March."!
Now you infer that you replied in respect to a predominately Catholic Nazi holocaust in WW2, e.g. your latest quote "How many turn out to mourn the tens of thousands of babies murdered in an horrific and unjustifiable Holocaust of baby-killing? 600."!
I think your just trying to be a smart c..t
Apr 1, 2019 10:40 PM CST World events.
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand2,298 Posts
robplum: You quoted part of my post "The first National March for Life was held in 2018 to commemorate the 40th anniversary of abortion legislation in New Zealand and the more than 500,000 lives lost to abortion. Six hundred people participated in that March."!
Now you infer that you replied in respect to a predominately Catholic Nazi holocaust in WW2, e.g. your latest quote "How many turn out to mourn the tens of thousands of babies murdered in an horrific and unjustifiable Holocaust of baby-killing? 600."!
I think your just trying to be a smart c..t
I do understand that you have a somewhat irrational hatred of all things Catholic. Perhaps you went to a Catholic school?

I think you will find that Hitler was a lapsed Catholic, lol (possibly as you are yourself?).

Let us get back to the original point - which is that far more New Zealanders turned out to mourn 50 Muslims, than to mourn thousands upon thousands of babies. Which I personally think is rather sad.
Apr 2, 2019 1:09 AM CST World events.
I tried to correctly answer your question in relation to that matter.
I spend well over an hour responding to your question because clearly others teach other. Most people I guess simply don't understand that in every respect; from conception all the building blocks of human life is already present.
Bill English ex NZ Prime Minister, lead (and or) fully supported the right to life march quoted and however the current PM seeks to remove murder as a crime, because she clearly doesn't realize doing so is the same as Tarrant engaged in, just different motivation. Killing human being is still murder whether feminist understand that or not. Taking life whether a human embryo, innocent muslim, unarmed defenseless civilians or any form of unprovoked killing is murder.
The root cause of suffering is self interests.
Apr 2, 2019 2:46 AM CST World events.
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand2,298 Posts
robplum: I tried to correctly answer your question in relation to that matter.
I spend well over an hour responding to your question because clearly others teach other. Most people I guess simply don't understand that in every respect; from conception all the building blocks of human life is already present.
Bill English ex NZ Prime Minister, lead (and or) fully supported the right to life march quoted and however the current PM seeks to remove murder as a crime, because she clearly doesn't realize doing so is the same as Tarrant engaged in, just different motivation. Killing human being is still murder whether feminist understand that or not. Taking life whether a human embryo, innocent muslim, unarmed defenseless civilians or any form of unprovoked killing is murder.
The root cause of suffering is self interests.
I agree with your conclusion. Murder is rooted in selfishness.

Bill English (a Catholic) certainly has a better view on the matter than the ghastly Miss Ardern (an Atheist). But Mr. English is of the typical centre-right position that says "I personally don't like abortion but I have no interest in preventing anyone else from killing babies if that's what they want to do". Not a position I can really respect, to be honest. Miss Ardern, it could be argued, does at least have the saving grace of being brutally honest and upfront about her intentions and somewhat more consistent on the matter.

As for this government's stated intention to meddle with the abortion laws, this makes no practical difference one way or the other. The country currently has abortion on demand, and after the changes, will still have abortion on demand. All that is happening is that they are moving the legislation to a different filing cabinet.
Apr 2, 2019 3:22 AM CST World events.
yep probably.
Politicians either in NZ or over here, never give a rats for the pursuit of truth.
War after war that are the main have almost excursively started by western politicians, collectively they don't care who gets killed, simply labelled as collateral damage. Politicians are constantly pissing in the pockets of others without regard for human life anywhere on this planet, of course they babble some shit about caring, but then look who hugged who...in NZ Mark Burton had a bullet fired in my window, over here MP Dutton is threatening to deport me if i spoke about this very issue, he is grossly dishonest RC.
Repeatedly I have been attacked both here Australian and in New Zealand for disagreeing with their bullshit, because of course lies are being constantly told.
Once over here they deployed a team that attempted to kill me, they have tired to stitch me up, and blocked me from buying a home of my own, Alex Downer attempted to bankrupt me something he freely admitted to on TV here. Tony Abbort's wife poured my NZ DVA file in a ladies ear.
Peter Slipper was my sitting member, he to once attended Dalai Lama teachings.
You can giggle if you like, but that is the truth and they can make whatever karmas they like.

The politicians refuse to accept Buddhist view that I was asked to provide to them, Kim Beasley and John Howard on the floor of our house of parliament in Australia agreed that i should given a fair hearing..

I have explained what i was asked to explain in law. Both in Australia in family law proceeding, and in New Zealand in the court proceedings occasioned when i took the NZ Defence force to court, including correctly filed proceedings in both countries High Court's.

I am in Australia in accordance with division six of the Original Australian Constitution Act 1900, which it appears Dutton intends to act in breach of.
Apr 2, 2019 3:34 AM CST World events.
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK5,249 Posts
charles_nz: I agree with your conclusion. Murder is rooted in selfishness.

Bill English (a Catholic) certainly has a better view on the matter than the ghastly Miss Ardern (an Atheist). But Mr. English is of the typical centre-right position that says "I personally don't like abortion but I have no interest in preventing anyone else from killing babies if that's what they want to do". Not a position I can really respect, to be honest. Miss Ardern, it could be argued, does at least have the saving grace of being brutally honest and upfront about her intentions and somewhat more consistent on the matter.

As for this government's stated intention to meddle with the abortion laws, this makes no practical difference one way or the other. The country currently has abortion on demand, and after the changes, will still have abortion on demand. All that is happening is that they are moving the legislation to a different filing cabinet.
Because you can never be in that position it makes it look like your someone who uses the kids as ammunition. Which isn't surprising. Using the kids as ammunition is a sin of the divorced and if any word encapsulates the spirit on these forums it's the word divorced.
Apr 2, 2019 3:52 AM CST World events.
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK5,249 Posts
Divorce seems to cloud many issues. There are people who voted Leave because their wife left them when of course being divorced, widowed or separated does not make the EU a better or worse thing in real terms. Bitter bastards happen to not like the EU, feelings not reasons make men and women decide - you can talk against the 1960s but the 1960s is still who you are. Humanity now deals in terms of emotional ammuntion, it forgot what emotions were in the 1960s and never remembered. Men and women are now more alike.
Apr 2, 2019 4:12 AM CST World events.
Somewhere in the UK after the Brexit referendum:

he: I voted leave
She: I voted stay. Why the hell did you vote leave? You idiot, you bastard etc...
He: When I voted leave I was thinking of you.
Apr 2, 2019 4:15 AM CST World events.
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK5,249 Posts
Brexit does in fact feel a lot like the divorce with the kids being used as ammunition.

And yes the youth for the most part side with mum(remain)but if yourself what is millennial populism the answer is to be born when the baby boomers were. Youth does not actually believe that dad's belief in the good old days is unfounded.
Apr 2, 2019 6:10 PM CST World events.
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand2,298 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Because you can never be in that position it makes it look like your someone who uses the kids as ammunition.
The view that only 50% of the world's population should be permitted a view on whether or not innocent babies deserve to die, is not a view I agree with.
Apr 4, 2019 3:30 PM CST World events.
Libyan national army is making its way to Tripoli to topple the US puppet govt or terrorist govt.

$7 billion worth of military equipment has been looted from US military base in Afghanistan, so the tali barney's will be armed to the teeth now.. on ya America throw the military gear around like its harmless.

Brenton tarrant goes to court today and he has got a lawyer, it was said he would rep himself.

Saudi's looking at buying a nuke powerplant, US said to be building it... but the Saudi's also not happy about Golan situation.
Apr 13, 2019 12:35 AM CST World events.
A Kiwi lad's death by drone
TONY WALL, BLAIR ENSOR AND ANDREA VANCE
Last updated 05:00 27/07/2014

When the Jones boys converted to Islam, it caused quite a stir in Christchurch.

Suddenly Daryl and his younger brother Nathan, who grew up in a strong Christian house, were sporting beards, learning Arabic and wearing flowing robes. Carloads of Muslims, including immigrant women in veils, would turn up at the family's home in a smart east Christchurch suburb, neighbours tut-tutting and muttering about terrorists.

Some who knew the family accepted the conversion, others struggled. When Daryl was in his early 20s and still flirting with Islam, he surprised the family of a Christian friend he was visiting when he suddenly declared he had to go to the far end of the house to pray towards Mecca. "We thought it was weird," said the friend's mother.

All of this upset the boys' parents - the father a former Australian police officer doing security for a government organisation, the mother employed by a Christchurch tertiary institution. The Sunday Star-Times has decided not to name the parents to protect their privacy. They declined interviews and have told friends not to speak to the media.

Daryl, 30 when he died, moved to Sydney around 2008 and converted to Islam soon after arriving. Nathan, still in Christchurch, converted soon after with the help of Saudi Arabian students he was friendly with.

"The parents desperately wanted both the boys to leave Islam. They had seen their sons change dramatically in appearance - it's scary for parents when that happens," a source said.

Mr and Mrs Jones turned to their New Life Church for help, and were put in touch with some people with knowledge of Islam to teach them more about it and hopefully convince Nathan to re-think his decision. He listened politely to the delegation, but rejected the advice.

In Sydney, Daryl began attending the Lakemba Mosque, known as a hotbed of radicalism, and drew the attention of counter-terrorism authorities because of the company he kept.

He changed his name to Muslim bin John, married a Somali woman and around 2009 headed to Saudi Arabia and then Yemen, ancestral home of Osama bin Laden and home base of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). He told his family he wanted to teach English and help people. But a source said Jones was thrown in prison in Yemen because he was not a registered teacher, leaving his wife and four children stranded. His parents arranged for the family to come to Christchurch, where they remain.

The family last heard from Daryl around May 2012, then lost all contact. The strain on his parents' marriage was immense, and they separated.

After the 2011 earthquakes Mrs Jones spent time in a motor home, staying at a caravan park near Christchurch. She gave the impression of a lost soul, said those who knew her. Residents of the park remember her saying her son was "missing" in the Middle East and she had asked church groups to help find him. She seemed very depressed and had had some sort of falling out with her daughter-in-law.

When news of Daryl's death finally filtered through after DNA was used to identify the remains, Mrs Jones fell apart.

"No-one really has any answers, it makes the grieving process very difficult," said a friend. "As a parent, who wouldn't be devastated that someone can flick a switch and your child is gone? It's absolutely devastating. This is a completely broken woman. To lose a child this way. Who makes these decisions to murder your child, and doesn't even let you know what happened?"

Born in Australia on September 14, 1983, Daryl Anthony Jones and his family moved to New Zealand, his mother's home country, when he was about six or seven. Those who knew Jones used the same words to describe him: quiet, shy, soft-spoken, gentle, polite.

"Nathan seemed a good kid too," said a source. "I think the two boys woul
Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:13 AM CST World events.
Prime Minister Helen Clark formally requested NZ be accepted as a full member state of Australia, actually so did Nauru, both requests were made consistent with Original Australia Constitution Act 1900.

At the time PM John Howard was suffering from lost listen, a complete lack of knowledge of definitions sec.6, his place under the Constitution of Australia not above it.
And so as a matter of law, it certainly can be said that Prime Minister Clark formal request the NZ be accepted and share the benefits that other member states enjoy.
The New Zealand constitution and current parliament be forthwith dissolved by proclamation from out going Australian Governor General Sir Peter, and in first instance Defence Force personnel be deployed to provide security during speedy transformation...
Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:18 PM CST World events.
The recent decision of former general Muchdi Purwoprandjono – who is also a former commander of the Army’s Special Forces (Kopassus) – to declare his support for President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo has added to the long list of former military generals taking part in the incumbent’s coalition.

Three former Indonesian Military (TNI) chiefs – Presidential Chief of Staff Moeldoko, Coordinating Political, Legal and Security Minister Wiranto and former vice president Try Sutrisno – as well as Coordinating Maritime Affairs Minister Luhut Pandjaitan, who was Kopassus’ antiterrorist unit chief, and former Navy chief of staff Marsetio are among the retired generals who have become Jokowi loyalists.

On Feb. 10, Jokowi and his running mate, Muslim cleric Ma’ruf Amin, officially received support from around 1,000 retired military officers, many of whom are generals. The support came just days after the President agreed to provide more civilian posts to active military personnel at government institutions.

The camp of challenger Prabowo Subianto, who is also a former military elite, has claimed that it has more former generals supporting the Gerindra Party chairman. Prominent retired generals backing him include former president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, former TNI chief Djoko Santoso, former Navy chief Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno. However, Yudhoyono, who currently leads the Democratic Party, has decided to leave the election campaign to care for his ailing wife.

Prabowo, a former commander of Kopassus, is also backed by several retired members of the elite unit, including Lt. Gen. (ret) Yunus Yosfiah, a former Kopassus captain during Indonesia’s 1975 invasion of then-East Timor, and Lt. Gen. (ret) Yayat Sudrajat, the former chief of the military’s Strategic Intelligence Agency (BAIS).

While Jokowi’s campaign team has claimed that dozens of former generals have thrown their support behind the President’s reelection bid, Prabowo’s team claims it has gotten hundreds.

Gerindra deputy chairman and Prabowo’s stalwart Fadli Zon has proudly claimed that hundreds of retired military generals supported Prabowo.

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