Subservience... (137)
Kaybee50: I recently come across a writing that has given me pause to ponder this long-held idea that I've highlighted above in red. Here it is:
Stop telling people that no one will love them until they love themselves.
Stop planting the idea in people's brains that they are unworthy of love because of their own personal struggles.
Interesting food for thought.
I believeit is important for people to love themselves, to give the full value of love to their soul mates;Stop telling people that no one will love them until they love themselves.
Stop planting the idea in people's brains that they are unworthy of love because of their own personal struggles.
Interesting food for thought.
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jono7: hey Kaybee
i'm so glad you wrote this. i am of the same mind as you.
i am happiest when my heart is open, and i enjoy serving.
(not just anyone or anything....it's my choice).
i believe there are only two choices. love and fear.
my favourite place to be, is 'no separation'.
heart intelligence
greetings j. i'm so glad you wrote this. i am of the same mind as you.
i am happiest when my heart is open, and i enjoy serving.
(not just anyone or anything....it's my choice).
i believe there are only two choices. love and fear.
my favourite place to be, is 'no separation'.
heart intelligence
I'm glad you made that point, "I enjoy serving (not just anyone or anything...it's my choice)".
You are a wise one 'O j.
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aries1234: I believeit is important for people to love themselves, to give the full value of love to their soul mates;
I agree with you. Absolutely. No debate there.However, most of us, at certain times in our lives go through struggles that perhaps make it difficult to value our own selves. We may not see ourselves as others do, and struggle with self-acceptance and self-love due to the set of circumstances we are dealing with at that moment.
Does that make us unworthy of love?
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smiley963: You are entitled to your own opinion.
I am totally self sufficient!!!!
Denial is one stumbling towards awareness. I am totally self sufficient!!!!
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BB_snickers: Denial is one stumbling towards awareness.
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smiley963: I'm Not bitter as you would like to believe. I have experienced marriage, and have learned from it. That's enough for me. Not un-proven ideas in the clouds!!!!
ok puddin. 
where the proof is.
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BB_snickers: ok puddin.
where the proof is.
The proof is in me...where the proof is.
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smiley963: Lol...Now you are decidedly becoming a joke!!!!
Lucky me. 
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Kaybee50: I agree with you. Absolutely. No debate there.
However, most of us, at certain times in our lives go through struggles that perhaps make it difficult to value our own selves. We may not see ourselves as others do, and struggle with self-acceptance and self-love due to the set of circumstances we are dealing with at that moment.
Does that make us unworthy of love?
Not at all, but when it becomes a phobia it could prevent people from giving their love.However, most of us, at certain times in our lives go through struggles that perhaps make it difficult to value our own selves. We may not see ourselves as others do, and struggle with self-acceptance and self-love due to the set of circumstances we are dealing with at that moment.
Does that make us unworthy of love?
I am lucky I have someone who loves me and I adore them, but some prople seem to welcome adversity, and even like it.
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Kaybee50: I agree with you. Absolutely. No debate there.
However, most of us, at certain times in our lives go through struggles that perhaps make it difficult to value our own selves. We may not see ourselves as others do, and struggle with self-acceptance and self-love due to the set of circumstances we are dealing with at that moment.
Does that make us unworthy of love?
When said that you first need to love yourself:However, most of us, at certain times in our lives go through struggles that perhaps make it difficult to value our own selves. We may not see ourselves as others do, and struggle with self-acceptance and self-love due to the set of circumstances we are dealing with at that moment.
Does that make us unworthy of love?
I means that you will not accept love if you don't love yourself first,
and thus will always question it,
which will break up the relationship before it has even started,
metaphorically speaking...
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smiley963: When said that you first need to love yourself:
I means that you will not accept love if you don't love yourself first,
and thus will always question it,
which will break up the relationship before it has even started,
metaphorically speaking...
That's probably true if a relationship fails to see love. One needs to actually know or recognize what love is first before it can be applied to self or to others I think. In a way you're right, because relationships fail either way; but without that recognition of love, which is something we have mirrored to us by others, ( in relationships) it's unlikely one could apply love of self or love to others at all. I means that you will not accept love if you don't love yourself first,
and thus will always question it,
which will break up the relationship before it has even started,
metaphorically speaking...
I think it's more like, one wants to be able to recognize love within self, (through those observed reflections) in order to have successful love with others. It's a technicality I know but it is kind of a chicken and egg thing because we actually need to observe others first in order to know what love is, before we can become it.
But ... if there was no self .... how would love manifest?
one docks paradox
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BB_snickers: That's probably true if a relationship fails to see love. One needs to actually know or recognize what love is first before it can be applied to self or to others I think. In a way you're right, because relationships fail either way; but without that recognition of love, which is something we have mirrored to us by others, ( in relationships) it's unlikely one could apply love of self or love to others at all.
I think it's more like, one wants to be able to recognize love within self, (through those observed reflections) in order to have successful love with others. It's a technicality I know but it is kind of a chicken and egg thing because we actually need to observe others first in order to know what love is, before we can become it.
But ... if there was no self .... how would love manifest?
one docks paradox
You think quite logically and reasonably...I think it's more like, one wants to be able to recognize love within self, (through those observed reflections) in order to have successful love with others. It's a technicality I know but it is kind of a chicken and egg thing because we actually need to observe others first in order to know what love is, before we can become it.
But ... if there was no self .... how would love manifest?
one docks paradox
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smiley963: You think quite logically and reasonably...
Yeah, they're not my thoughts. 
They're learned, active projections, that come through me in words, and that appear logical and reasonable to some. Can't blame me for being smart.
I am just a muse for the memetic universe's sense of humor.
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It's been my experience that the sheep lie down...preparing to be shorn. It is ludicrous to imagine that all humans are one way or the other and often change those roles as time goes by. Subservience is an interesting concept but honestly I believe completely outdated...unless of course you are a Trump supporter...sheesh.
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Ozimandius: It's been my experience that the sheep lie down...preparing to be shorn. It is ludicrous to imagine that all humans are one way or the other and often change those roles as time goes by. Subservience is an interesting concept but honestly I believe completely outdated...unless of course you are a Trump supporter...sheesh.
Subservience:Should Not exist in any form anywhere...
Every Human / Animal / Bird / Sea Animal / Tree / Flower / Nature,
were all born Equal and Free,
Why put shackles on them,
and make them subservient?
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Their choices may not fit into society's norms.
They choose to follow their heart and not fall into step with the masses.
i'm so glad you wrote this. i am of the same mind as you.
i am happiest when my heart is open, and i enjoy serving.
(not just anyone or anything....it's my choice).
i believe there are only two choices. love and fear.
my favourite place to be, is 'no separation'.
heart intelligence