Euthanasia Debate in Spain (133)
I see the debate is still going on here in Spain.
At the end of the month we have elections...
One party is pro
And the other contra euthanasia.
At the end of the month we have elections...
One party is pro
And the other contra euthanasia.
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I'm of a mixed mind on this subject.
Ethunasia is very popular in the US...
Now that our government is cutting back on health services!
Ethunasia is very popular in the US...
Now that our government is cutting back on health services!
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My dad asked me to pick him some hemlock, the month before he died of cancer.
I couldn't do it.
He was in my yard, where it grew wild; and if it really meant that much to him...
He lived a month longer than the 6 months the doctor gave him, upon his diagnosis...
It seems more like he was asking, if he was bothering me, by taking so long to die.
I think it's important to not to allow your family to think you're tired of them when they are sick, or in a big rush to get on with your life...
I'm sure a portion of ethunasia victims, we're pushed out of their lives, by their "loved ones."
I couldn't do it.
He was in my yard, where it grew wild; and if it really meant that much to him...
He lived a month longer than the 6 months the doctor gave him, upon his diagnosis...
It seems more like he was asking, if he was bothering me, by taking so long to die.
I think it's important to not to allow your family to think you're tired of them when they are sick, or in a big rush to get on with your life...
I'm sure a portion of ethunasia victims, we're pushed out of their lives, by their "loved ones."
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I've been breeding dogs for years...
Once or twice a year I get a dog with "Fading puppy syndrome."
It's always hard to see my puppies fading into death...
I tried giving one enough oxycodone to kill a man. It was on the verge of death, but woke up again...
My friend offered to loan me his gun, so I could put him out of his misery...
But I couldn't do it.
He died in his favorite spot, with the sun shining on him.
Surrounded by family, as comfortable as he could possibly be...
I see newborn pups who will only be with us for a few hours, crawling to be near their brothers and sisters...
No.
We rush the deaths of our "loved ones," to put us out of our misery.
Even my Dad, after I refused to bring him hemlock to help him die sooner...
After his pain got even worse, he told me:
He didn't mind the pain. He just wanted to live, and experience everything left of his life.
If I had helped him die early, it would'a just been to keep him from being a bother to me; and he wouldn't've lived long enough to tell me how much he still enjoyed his life...
Even when he had cancer eating his body, he didn't want to use enough pain pills to hinder his awareness.
He didn't wanna die. He didn't even want to numb his pain, enough to keep away his suffering; because, that's all part of living.
But he'd've let me give him hemlock, to ease my pain.
Once or twice a year I get a dog with "Fading puppy syndrome."
It's always hard to see my puppies fading into death...
I tried giving one enough oxycodone to kill a man. It was on the verge of death, but woke up again...
My friend offered to loan me his gun, so I could put him out of his misery...
But I couldn't do it.
He died in his favorite spot, with the sun shining on him.
Surrounded by family, as comfortable as he could possibly be...
I see newborn pups who will only be with us for a few hours, crawling to be near their brothers and sisters...
No.
We rush the deaths of our "loved ones," to put us out of our misery.
Even my Dad, after I refused to bring him hemlock to help him die sooner...
After his pain got even worse, he told me:
He didn't mind the pain. He just wanted to live, and experience everything left of his life.
If I had helped him die early, it would'a just been to keep him from being a bother to me; and he wouldn't've lived long enough to tell me how much he still enjoyed his life...
Even when he had cancer eating his body, he didn't want to use enough pain pills to hinder his awareness.
He didn't wanna die. He didn't even want to numb his pain, enough to keep away his suffering; because, that's all part of living.
But he'd've let me give him hemlock, to ease my pain.
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mykingdomforanam: My dad asked me to pick him some hemlock, the month before he died of cancer.
I couldn't do it.
He was in my yard, where it grew wild; and if it really meant that much to him...
He lived a month longer than the 6 months the doctor gave him, upon his diagnosis...
It seems more like he was asking, if he was bothering me, by taking so long to die.
I think it's important to not to allow your family to think you're tired of them when they are sick, or in a big rush to get on with your life...
I'm sure a portion of ethunasia victims, we're pushed out of their lives, by their "loved ones."
Of course it's a very difficult decision for the family.I couldn't do it.
He was in my yard, where it grew wild; and if it really meant that much to him...
He lived a month longer than the 6 months the doctor gave him, upon his diagnosis...
It seems more like he was asking, if he was bothering me, by taking so long to die.
I think it's important to not to allow your family to think you're tired of them when they are sick, or in a big rush to get on with your life...
I'm sure a portion of ethunasia victims, we're pushed out of their lives, by their "loved ones."
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mykingdomforanam: I've been breeding dogs for years...
Once or twice a year I get a dog with "Fading puppy syndrome."
It's always hard to see my puppies fading into death...
I tried giving one enough oxycodone to kill a man. It was on the verge of death, but woke up again...
My friend offered to loan me his gun, so I could put him out of his misery...
But I couldn't do it.
He died in his favorite spot, with the sun shining on him.
Surrounded by family, as comfortable as he could possibly be...
I see newborn pups who will only be with us for a few hours, crawling to be near their brothers and sisters...
No.
We rush the deaths of our "loved ones," to put us out of our misery.
Even my Dad, after I refused to bring him hemlock to help him die sooner...
After his pain got even worse, he told me:
He didn't mind the pain. He just wanted to live, and experience everything left of his life.
If I had helped him die early, it would'a just been to keep him from being a bother to me; and he wouldn't've lived long enough to tell me how much he still enjoyed his life...
Even when he had cancer eating his body, he didn't want to use enough pain pills to hinder his awareness.
He didn't wanna die. He didn't even want to numb his pain, enough to keep away his suffering; because, that's all part of living.
But he'd've let me give him hemlock, to ease my pain.
Wow..what a brave man! Once or twice a year I get a dog with "Fading puppy syndrome."
It's always hard to see my puppies fading into death...
I tried giving one enough oxycodone to kill a man. It was on the verge of death, but woke up again...
My friend offered to loan me his gun, so I could put him out of his misery...
But I couldn't do it.
He died in his favorite spot, with the sun shining on him.
Surrounded by family, as comfortable as he could possibly be...
I see newborn pups who will only be with us for a few hours, crawling to be near their brothers and sisters...
No.
We rush the deaths of our "loved ones," to put us out of our misery.
Even my Dad, after I refused to bring him hemlock to help him die sooner...
After his pain got even worse, he told me:
He didn't mind the pain. He just wanted to live, and experience everything left of his life.
If I had helped him die early, it would'a just been to keep him from being a bother to me; and he wouldn't've lived long enough to tell me how much he still enjoyed his life...
Even when he had cancer eating his body, he didn't want to use enough pain pills to hinder his awareness.
He didn't wanna die. He didn't even want to numb his pain, enough to keep away his suffering; because, that's all part of living.
But he'd've let me give him hemlock, to ease my pain.
Although I'd like to live as long as I'm healthy...I couldn't stand the pain.
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mykingdomforanam: I've been breeding dogs for years...
Once or twice a year I get a dog with "Fading puppy syndrome."
It's always hard to see my puppies fading into death...
I tried giving one enough oxycodone to kill a man. It was on the verge of death, but woke up again...
My friend offered to loan me his gun, so I could put him out of his misery...
But I couldn't do it.
He died in his favorite spot, with the sun shining on him.
Surrounded by family, as comfortable as he could possibly be...
I see newborn pups who will only be with us for a few hours, crawling to be near their brothers and sisters...
No.
I remember you telling me about your dogs and pups..Once or twice a year I get a dog with "Fading puppy syndrome."
It's always hard to see my puppies fading into death...
I tried giving one enough oxycodone to kill a man. It was on the verge of death, but woke up again...
My friend offered to loan me his gun, so I could put him out of his misery...
But I couldn't do it.
He died in his favorite spot, with the sun shining on him.
Surrounded by family, as comfortable as he could possibly be...
I see newborn pups who will only be with us for a few hours, crawling to be near their brothers and sisters...
No.
Yes...it's also very sad to have to put down an animal.
I've had 2 dogs ...my last 2 rotties...I had to have put down. The last one had cancer.
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daniela777: I remember you telling me about your dogs and pups..
Yes...it's also very sad to have to put down an animal.
I've had 2 dogs ...my last 2 rotties...I had to have put down. The last one had cancer.
I live Rottweilers!Yes...it's also very sad to have to put down an animal.
I've had 2 dogs ...my last 2 rotties...I had to have put down. The last one had cancer.
If it wasn't for the fact most Rottweilers who live till they're 8, die of cancer before they're 9, I'd have them, or breed them into my line of hybrids.
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I love Rottweilers.
But the autocorrect on this phone sux!
But the autocorrect on this phone sux!
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mykingdomforanam: I live Rottweilers!
If it wasn't for the fact most Rottweilers who live till they're 8, die of cancer before they're 9, I'd have them, or breed them into my line of hybrids.
Hmm..I didn't realise they were short lived??? If it wasn't for the fact most Rottweilers who live till they're 8, die of cancer before they're 9, I'd have them, or breed them into my line of hybrids.
I knew someone in Germany who had one who lived up to 12.
I also know they tend to get ...what's that bone disease?
That's why you have to make sure it is not in their family genes.
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daniela777: Hmm..I didn't realise they were short lived???
I knew someone in Germany who had one who lived up to 12.
I also know they tend to get ...what's that bone disease?
That's why you have to make sure it is not in their family genes.
The IFC has much stricter standards than the AKC.I knew someone in Germany who had one who lived up to 12.
I also know they tend to get ...what's that bone disease?
That's why you have to make sure it is not in their family genes.
So dogs bred to IFC standards, will always be healthier than AKC dogs.
Everytime a new breed is added to the American Kennel Club, there's breeders who kept the breed before, who fight against AKC recognition.
Rottweilers are healthier in Germany than in the US; but they still have a longer list of inherited problems than Pit Bulls.
American Pit Bull Terriers aren't recognized by the AKC either.
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The American Pit Bull Terrier is recognized by the UKC, which was founded to benefit Pit Bulls.
When the AKC decided to add Pit Bulls to their rosters, they changed the name to American Staffordshire Bull Terriers.
The first American Staffordshire Bull Terrier was, Petey, from the Little Rascals.
Petey was born a Pit Bull; and was claimed by the AKC, after he was famous.
There's nothing but Pit Bull in the ASBT; with a different name.
Over time the AKC line has deteriorated.
The UKC line doesn't share all the health problems the AKC line has.
The AKC line of American Staffordshire Bull Terriers, is more likely to bite people than the UKC line; but when they bite: they become Pit Bulls again!
The AKC has opened their registry to allow a few Pit Bulls in, which helped the AKC line.
When the UKC changed their standard, to encourage mixing AKC with UKC lines...
My yard was full of Put Bulls; as I had been breeding them for 9 generations.
I quit breeding Put Bulls, found homes for my dogs; and started breeding hybrid dogs to my own standard.
American Bulladors are recognized by the National Hybrid Registry.
But, I have a good enough reputation with dogs; that I don't need to worry about anybody's standards, except my own.
Now I get more for my dogs without papers, than I got for gold ribbon Pit Bulls with papers.
I'm pretty sure, I have the only breeding pairs of American Bulladors, in the Hawaiian Islands; and since it's a newly recognized hybrid... I am setting the standard.
If the NHR changes their standard, I'll change the name of my dog's breed.
Once I got the confidence to being mixing breeds, and selling them for more money than established breeds...
There's no going back.
Beautiful, healthy, old dogs, sell themselves.
I'm breeding for health, obedience, and conformation, in that order; and the only vet bills my dog's ever cost me, was from the dogs my main stud dog beat up.
Colors and markings are nice; but I try not to be influenced by them.
Because, the AKC will disqualify a Great Dane for a spot of gray; and let it breed, with a large list of physical faults showing... which is why Great Danes also live longer in Germany.
If I ever find a breeder who has Rottweilers that live 12 years, I'd love to add them to my line.
When the AKC decided to add Pit Bulls to their rosters, they changed the name to American Staffordshire Bull Terriers.
The first American Staffordshire Bull Terrier was, Petey, from the Little Rascals.
Petey was born a Pit Bull; and was claimed by the AKC, after he was famous.
There's nothing but Pit Bull in the ASBT; with a different name.
Over time the AKC line has deteriorated.
The UKC line doesn't share all the health problems the AKC line has.
The AKC line of American Staffordshire Bull Terriers, is more likely to bite people than the UKC line; but when they bite: they become Pit Bulls again!
The AKC has opened their registry to allow a few Pit Bulls in, which helped the AKC line.
When the UKC changed their standard, to encourage mixing AKC with UKC lines...
My yard was full of Put Bulls; as I had been breeding them for 9 generations.
I quit breeding Put Bulls, found homes for my dogs; and started breeding hybrid dogs to my own standard.
American Bulladors are recognized by the National Hybrid Registry.
But, I have a good enough reputation with dogs; that I don't need to worry about anybody's standards, except my own.
Now I get more for my dogs without papers, than I got for gold ribbon Pit Bulls with papers.
I'm pretty sure, I have the only breeding pairs of American Bulladors, in the Hawaiian Islands; and since it's a newly recognized hybrid... I am setting the standard.
If the NHR changes their standard, I'll change the name of my dog's breed.
Once I got the confidence to being mixing breeds, and selling them for more money than established breeds...
There's no going back.
Beautiful, healthy, old dogs, sell themselves.
I'm breeding for health, obedience, and conformation, in that order; and the only vet bills my dog's ever cost me, was from the dogs my main stud dog beat up.
Colors and markings are nice; but I try not to be influenced by them.
Because, the AKC will disqualify a Great Dane for a spot of gray; and let it breed, with a large list of physical faults showing... which is why Great Danes also live longer in Germany.
If I ever find a breeder who has Rottweilers that live 12 years, I'd love to add them to my line.
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Pit Bulls.
Not Put Bulls!
Not Put Bulls!
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daniela777: This is a bit extreme!
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Wow. I just recently had to deal with something exactly like this with a family pet. 
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MustangWriter: Wow. I just recently had to deal with something exactly like this with a family pet.
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I haven’t read all the thread Dan, but, personally I am pro assisted suicide.
I believe if one is suffering and there is no hope of recovery from a terminal illness, then that person should be able to die with at least some dignity intact, also alleviating added stress to family and loved ones.
JMO
I believe if one is suffering and there is no hope of recovery from a terminal illness, then that person should be able to die with at least some dignity intact, also alleviating added stress to family and loved ones.
JMO
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BerrySmoothie: I haven’t read all the thread Dan, but, personally I am pro assisted suicide.
I believe if one is suffering and there is no hope of recovery from a terminal illness, then that person should be able to die with at least some dignity intact, also alleviating added stress to family and loved ones.
JMO
Hi Berry.. Nice to see you here. I believe if one is suffering and there is no hope of recovery from a terminal illness, then that person should be able to die with at least some dignity intact, also alleviating added stress to family and loved ones.
JMO
I know what you´re saying and it´s exactly my way of thinking too but...
I´m afraid that, until it is made legal, there are consequences to it.
The man in question is under investigation at the moment and waiting for a trial, in which he will probably be convicted???
Even if it is made legal - in spain or any other countries - they still have to investigate.
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Its a thing here. I hope it don't get abused by a**hole family members trying to get at their will earlier than nature intended.
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