Euthanasia Debate in Spain ( Archived) (133)

Apr 13, 2019 4:22 PM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
daniela777: I don't know about a fortune ?
Aries just said that Yorkshire men only carried a few pennies...

And BN...said that they were tighter than...'s arses.?
Yes sweetness, must go now nitelips hug
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Apr 13, 2019 7:12 PM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
BerrySmoothie: I haven’t read all the thread Dan, but, personally I am pro assisted suicide.

Suicide is, be definition, some taking their own life.

"Assisted suicide" is therefore a contradiction in terms.

What the euthanasia industry are demanding is not "suicide" (something we have always had). What they are demanding is that murder (i.e. one person killing another) be legally permissible in certain circumstances.
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Apr 13, 2019 11:46 PM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
daniela777
daniela777daniela777Mi Paraiso, Murcia Spain44 Threads 2,714 Posts
charles_nz: Suicide is, be definition, some taking their own life.

"Assisted suicide" is therefore a contradiction in terms.

What the euthanasia industry are demanding is not "suicide" (something we have always had). What they are demanding is that murder (i.e. one person killing another) be legally permissible in certain circumstances.
Well...if you put it like that it does sound terrible ! doh
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Apr 14, 2019 7:16 AM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
robplum: It is in my opinion a very stupid activity
Well if I were dying and in a drawn out process of misery and suffering, your opinion would be of absolutely no concern to me.
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Apr 14, 2019 8:08 AM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
daniela777
daniela777daniela777Mi Paraiso, Murcia Spain44 Threads 2,714 Posts
Harbal: Well if I were dying and in a drawn out process of misery and suffering, your opinion would be of absolutely no concern to me.
comfort

I certainly wouldn't worry about the next life as I don't want to come back here and be recycled again.scold
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Apr 14, 2019 3:26 PM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
Harbal: Well if I were dying and in a drawn out process of misery and suffering, your opinion would be of absolutely no concern to me.
If you took the time to study a meaningful dharma you wouldn't be overly suffer misery and suffering because you would be armed with correct view and correct antidote to manage the misery and suffering you refer to.
Nihilism proposes you don't have nor need a view yet your expressing one.
Both of you are being quite unrealistic, if you never never go, you never never know, for me its sad to sit on the fence having carefully studied a 20,000 year old belief that provides antidotes for our ills listening to you guys profoundly stating you believe nothing while still proclaiming opinions that others including myself attempt to convey wrong pal
try checking out Lam Rim while you still enjoy this short human rebirth while you can. You don't need to join a isim but you would be able to have an informed view
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Apr 14, 2019 3:44 PM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
robplum: If you took the time to study a meaningful dharma you wouldn't be overly suffer misery and suffering because you would be armed with correct view and correct antidote to manage the misery and suffering you refer to.
Nihilism proposes you don't have nor need a view yet your expressing one.
Both of you are being quite unrealistic, if you never never go, you never never know, for me its sad to sit on the fence having carefully studied a 20,000 year old belief that provides antidotes for our ills listening to you guys profoundly stating you believe nothing while still proclaiming opinions that others including myself attempt to convey wrong pal
try checking out Lam Rim while you still enjoy this short human rebirth while you can. You don't need to join a isim but you would be able to have an informed view
If I were to "study" all the different types of mumbo jumbo people try to hoist on me, I would have time for nothing else, rob. When you are in the grips of a long drawn out death, in constant pain and barely able to do anything for yourself, I wonder if you will still hold so firmly to your beliefs.
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Apr 14, 2019 5:04 PM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
euthanasia sounds like your putting someone down....assisted suicide is really what it is because the patient makes the choice....its not someone putting you to sleep without your permission....its all about what the patient chooses.....wave
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Apr 15, 2019 12:48 AM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
aries1234: It seems the case you cited was dealt with compassionately, i cannot give an opinion on other cases not being in possesion of the facts and circumstances involved.

Personally I am not in fav,our of giving carte blanch to this action without many safeguards, but i have heard of doctors increasing the pain control dosage, to the the point for the pain control is fatal.

From my own point of view , my doctor asked me to sign a DNR form even though i have no illness, he said it's just a formality, I told him t stuff his formality, and changed doctors.
HE HAD a very high opinion of you!rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 15, 2019 12:55 AM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
Nothing proves God intended for people to undergo prolonged suffering before death. Doctors in U.S. frequently max the pain killer when a hospitalized terminal patient has had enough.

When anesthesia was first adopted many people thought it was against god because surgical patients should suffer.barf
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Apr 15, 2019 4:23 AM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
daniela777
daniela777daniela777Mi Paraiso, Murcia Spain44 Threads 2,714 Posts
M4_Mischief: euthanasia sounds like your putting someone down....assisted suicide is really what it is because the patient makes the choice....its not someone putting you to sleep without your permission....its all about what the patient chooses.....
Exactly lady M. thumbs up teddybear
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Apr 15, 2019 5:30 PM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
aries1234: Exactly!!!!!
If they want us dead they will find a way unless we stop them.
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Apr 16, 2019 7:31 AM CST Euthanasia Debate in Spain
daniela777
daniela777daniela777Mi Paraiso, Murcia Spain44 Threads 2,714 Posts
raphael119: If they want us dead they will find a way unless we stop them.
And how do you propose to do that Raf?
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