Protesters ( Archived) (32)

Apr 12, 2019 11:05 AM CST Protesters
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Do you agree or disagree with teachers who protest?

Whether it be for higher incomes, and/or less amount of students per classroom, and/or more funding for schools and education.

Or is there a different approach that the teachers should/could address their issues?
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Apr 12, 2019 12:46 PM CST Protesters
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Friskyone: Do you agree or disagree with teachers who protest?

Whether it be for higher incomes, and/or less amount of students per classroom, and/or more funding for schools and education.

Or is there a different approach that the teachers should/could address their issues?
Teachers are humans too.with children, mortgages, debt, etc.

They do an important job, often in difficult circumstances. They shouldn't be forced to strike for good conditions, but if they need to, then they should.
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Apr 12, 2019 12:51 PM CST Protesters
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
mollybaby: Teachers are humans too.with children, mortgages, debt, etc.

They do an important job, often in difficult circumstances. They shouldn't be forced to strike for good conditions, but if they need to, then they should.
I agree. I believe the teachers have first tried other ways to meet their needs and when that didn't work, they were pretty much forced to go to the extent of striking. I hope it works out for all of them. They work very hard and deserve all their needs to be met.
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Apr 12, 2019 12:51 PM CST Protesters
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Friskyone: I agree. I believe the teachers have first tried other ways to meet their needs and when that didn't work, they were pretty much forced to go to the extent of striking. I hope it works out for all of them. They work very hard and deserve all their needs to be met.
And a lot of teachers spend their own money on school supplies
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Apr 12, 2019 1:04 PM CST Protesters
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
Friskyone: And a lot of teachers spend their own money on school supplies
There should be a tribunal consisting of all parents to make binding decisions on all thingsconversing
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Apr 12, 2019 2:08 PM CST Protesters
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
Most Teachers in the US have become over paid Democrat party lackeys, who's main interest is indoctrinating young impressionable minds with the liberal agenda. Especially at the college level. professor
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Apr 12, 2019 2:18 PM CST Protesters
Inthewoods
InthewoodsInthewoodsColorado Springs, Colorado USA9,863 Posts
One of the most important jobs that we have... And now... teachers have a chance to be shot at while educating children? ... How many classrooms are being filled with non english speaking children... confused
Teachers should not have to buy their own supplies... scold
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Apr 12, 2019 2:30 PM CST Protesters
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Inthewoods: One of the most important jobs that we have... And now... teachers have a chance to be shot at while educating children? ... How many classrooms are being filled with non english speaking children...
Teachers should not have to buy their own supplies...
It is true. Teaching is a very important occupation and you are right, they are in a high risk position. And no, they shouldn't have to buy their own supplies, especially knowing that they are underpaid but that just goes to show their passion for the kids and ensuring the education of the kids. Kudos to them!
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Apr 12, 2019 2:38 PM CST Protesters
Inthewoods
InthewoodsInthewoodsColorado Springs, Colorado USA9,863 Posts
Friskyone: It is true. Teaching is a very important occupation and you are right, they are in a high risk position. And no, they shouldn't have to buy their own supplies, especially knowing that they are underpaid but that just goes to show their passion for the kids and ensuring the education of the kids. Kudos to them!
thumbs up ... I know... My Mom retired from a elementary school... things have changed, she might be shocked at the classrooms now... laugh ... dunno

... wave
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Apr 12, 2019 2:43 PM CST Protesters
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Inthewoods: ... I know... My Mom retired from a elementary school... things have changed, she might be shocked at the classrooms now... ...

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I'm sure she would be shocked and yes, times have changed. Especially with the older kids and technology.

wave
thumbs up
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Apr 12, 2019 2:49 PM CST Protesters
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
I do not care if teachers protest. That’s even cute. However I think the entire public school systems in the USA should be trashed, rewired and operate realistically in how they produce the end product... educated graduates. I’ve been debating forever, it seems, with unhappy teachers in Michigan presently wanting more money and benefits. We all want moe money. The public schools here today can operate a lot more efficiently. They could probably cut their operating budges in half and still produce the same quality product imho.
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Apr 12, 2019 2:54 PM CST Protesters
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
galrads: I do not care if teachers protest. That’s even cute. However I think the entire public school systems in the USA should be trashed, rewired and operate realistically in how they produce the end product... educated graduates. I’ve been debating forever, it seems, with unhappy teachers in Michigan presently wanting more money and benefits. We all want moe money. The public schools here today can operate a lot more efficiently. They could probably cut their operating budges in half and still produce the same quality product imho.
And I saw on my local news station a couple of days ago, talking on the education issues and the interviewer asked the school's president what his annual salary was...$300,000. She then asked him if he would take a pay cut to help with the budget. His response was "everything is on the table".
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Apr 12, 2019 2:57 PM CST Protesters
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
galrads: I do not care if teachers protest. That’s even cute. However I think the entire public school systems in the USA should be trashed, rewired and operate realistically in how they produce the end product... educated graduates. I’ve been debating forever, it seems, with unhappy teachers in Michigan presently wanting more money and benefits. We all want moe money. The public schools here today can operate a lot more efficiently. They could probably cut their operating budges in half and still produce the same quality product imho.
wave
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Apr 12, 2019 3:06 PM CST Protesters
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Friskyone: And I saw on my local news station a couple of days ago, talking on the education issues and the interviewer asked the school's president what his annual salary was...$300,000. She then asked him if he would take a pay cut to help with the budget. His response was "everything is on the table".
I wish they would put everything on the table, including the number and redundancy of administrators (and support staffs), swimming pools, tennis courts, dance floors, huge gymnasiums and stadiums, ice skating rinks etc. I even question the mandatory continuing education for teachers in Michigan. Teachers there make good money, but probably not as good as what their retirement incomes turn out to be! And they have huge numbers of perks while teaching and sometimes as much if not more in their golden retirements. Sadly, there is a big picture out there that escapes most people today. Rant over.
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Apr 12, 2019 3:07 PM CST Protesters
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Friskyone: And I saw on my local news station a couple of days ago, talking on the education issues and the interviewer asked the school's president what his annual salary was...$300,000. She then asked him if he would take a pay cut to help with the budget. His response was "everything is on the table".
wave
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Apr 12, 2019 3:10 PM CST Protesters
Inthewoods
InthewoodsInthewoodsColorado Springs, Colorado USA9,863 Posts
galrads: I do not care if teachers protest. That’s even cute. However I think the entire public school systems in the USA should be trashed, rewired and operate realistically in how they produce the end product... educated graduates. I’ve been debating forever, it seems, with unhappy teachers in Michigan presently wanting more money and benefits. We all want moe money. The public schools here today can operate a lot more efficiently. They could probably cut their operating budges in half and still produce the same quality product imho.
Well... the firefighters want to strike here, they have their wives on tv, telling us that $80,000 per year, with lifetime retirement and full benefits... is not enought for a starting pay?
Now, know body wants to work for less that $40,000 a year... dunno ... laugh
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Apr 12, 2019 3:13 PM CST Protesters
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Inthewoods: Well... the firefighters want to strike here, they have their wives on tv, telling us that $80,000 per year, with lifetime retirement and full benefits... is not enought for a starting pay?
Now, know body wants to work for less that $40,000 a year... ...
Not that I can blame them, but public employees have it good today.
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Apr 12, 2019 3:16 PM CST Protesters
Inthewoods
InthewoodsInthewoodsColorado Springs, Colorado USA9,863 Posts
galrads: Not that I can blame them, but public employees have it good today.
It's still a good job, especially if you get PERA...
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Apr 12, 2019 3:22 PM CST Protesters
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Inthewoods: Well... the firefighters want to strike here, they have their wives on tv, telling us that $80,000 per year, with lifetime retirement and full benefits... is not enought for a starting pay?
Now, know body wants to work for less that $40,000 a year... ...
From what I understand, the cost of living there is high and they risk their lives putting out fires, even cancer causing. $40,000 is not a lot of money considering the living cost and the life of a human. Their jobs are VERY difficult too.
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Apr 12, 2019 3:23 PM CST Protesters
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
Friskyone: Do you agree or disagree with teachers who protest?

Whether it be for higher incomes, and/or less amount of students per classroom, and/or more funding for schools and education.

Or is there a different approach that the teachers should/could address their issues?
In my country, teachers, who are already very well paid, and who get 10 weeks of paid holidays every year, are always demanding more money and going on strike to get it. They're like pigs at a trough!

But having said that, there may at times be legitimate things to protest about. I do, however, dislike teachers using their pupils as political pawns (as we saw recently with the climate change protests).
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