Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela. ( Archived) (25)

Jun 2, 2019 1:48 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts
China has 90% of the rare earth mineral market on their side, they have the first thorium uranium reactor in the world and sounds a lot safer than normal uranium reactors.

Venezuela has (blue gold) or Coltan, they also have Thorium in their soil... Thorium Uranium comes from you guessed it Thorium.

Rare earth minerals and refined Coltan go into many electronic devices, but most important of all it is used in alot of bombs, missiles, rockets and war planes.
The US doesn't have any rare earth minerals or coltan, they buy from China.. if China closes that market off to the US, the US military industrial complex won't be happy at all.
Makes sense why the US wants into Venezuela so bad.

As for Thorium and Thorium Uranium it sounds alot safer than standard Uranium, they say it doesn't deplete down and can't be used for weapons.
The US knew about thorium uranium back in the 70s and closed it down back then to, they went after the standard uranium because it depletes when used in reactors.. then once depleted can be used in weapons.

Sorry i've got links to info, but i found that on The last american vagabond youtube show.
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Jun 2, 2019 2:03 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Also Afghanistan is loaded with useful minerals, worth a look
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Jun 2, 2019 3:45 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Cavalero
CavaleroCavaleroVerviers, Liege Belgium12 Threads 4 Polls 701 Posts
There are precious minerals on the planets of our solar system and on asteroids.
The average asteroid contains millions of tons of precious metals. Specifically these include gold, iridium, silver, osmium, palladium, platinum, rhenium, rhodium, ruthenium, tungsten, iron, cobalt, manganese, molybdenum, nickel and aluminium.

Asteroid mining can turn out to be a lucrative business for private space companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin. While Earth’s gravity has pulled the planet’s heavy metals into Earth’s core, making them rare and valuable in the crust layer, these metals are more diffuse throughout less massive, lower gravity asteroids.

Some companies have taken note of that. Last week, Planetary Resources launched a spacecraft from the International Space Station on a mission to test the technology required for extraterrestrial prospecting. The Arkyd 3 Reflight rocket left the Earth onboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket last April.

In 2014, the European Space Agency’s Rosetta spacecraft successfully landed on a comet, providing tantalizing proof of concept for asteroid miners at companies like Planetary Resources and Deep Space Industries.

Space exploration and eploitation can end most wars since we now know that those wars are waged not for "democracy" but for the underground wealth a country may sit upon.
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Jun 2, 2019 4:14 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Cavalero: There are precious minerals on the planets of our solar system and on asteroids.
The average asteroid contains millions of tons of precious metals. Specifically these include gold, iridium, silver, osmium, palladium, platinum, rhenium, rhodium, ruthenium, tungsten, iron, cobalt, manganese, molybdenum, nickel and aluminium.

Asteroid mining can turn out to be a lucrative business for private space companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin. While Earth’s gravity has pulled the planet’s heavy metals into Earth’s core, making them rare and valuable in the crust layer, these metals are more diffuse throughout less massive, lower gravity asteroids.

Some companies have taken note of that. Last week, Planetary Resources launched a spacecraft from the International Space Station on a mission to test the technology required for extraterrestrial prospecting. The Arkyd 3 Reflight rocket left the Earth onboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket last April.

In 2014, the European Space Agency’s Rosetta spacecraft successfully landed on a comet, providing tantalizing proof of concept for asteroid miners at companies like Planetary Resources and Deep Space Industries.

Space exploration and eploitation can end most wars since we now know that those wars are waged not for "democracy" but for the underground wealth a country may sit upon.
I’m certainly of the opinion that the world would have destroyed itself already if it hadn’t discovered the new world. Freedom and being dynamic create so many external problems there must be room to retreat from the destruction; a planet for atheists, a planet of Chinese, a planet for Africa, Russians, liberal capitalists a planet for the religious and a planet for the humanists who by that time use genetic engineering to gain telepathic powers.
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Jun 2, 2019 4:31 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Cavalero
CavaleroCavaleroVerviers, Liege Belgium12 Threads 4 Polls 701 Posts
ChesneyChrist: I’m certainly of the opinion that the world would have destroyed itself already if it hadn’t discovered the new world. Freedom and being dynamic create so many external problems there must be room to retreat from the destruction; a planet for atheists, a planet of Chinese, a planet for Africa, Russians, liberal capitalists a planet for the religious and a planet for the humanists who by that time use genetic engineering to gain telepathic powers.
There'd still be wars on each of those planets because Human Beings can't leave well enough alone, are vain, greedy and jealous.

If the members of a family can fight and hate each other, what makes you think a whole ethnic group can cohabitate without killing each other?

Christ...! We can't even get along as members of C.S laugh
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Jun 2, 2019 5:17 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
wonlongpong: Democratic Republic of Cork???
The other DRC
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Jun 2, 2019 3:29 PM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts
robplum: Also Afghanistan is loaded with useful minerals, worth a look
I think the US interest in Afghanistan is about opium and gas/oil pipelines, but the tali barney's are standing in there way.
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Jun 2, 2019 3:37 PM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Butcher559: Yep the Congo is a pretty lawless place in the world, its a shame Belguim never cleaned the place up while they were chopping of feet and hands there.
Belgium should be ashamed of their despicable history there.
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Jun 2, 2019 4:14 PM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Cavalero
CavaleroCavaleroVerviers, Liege Belgium12 Threads 4 Polls 701 Posts
mollybaby: Belgium should be ashamed of their despicable history there.
Yes, Belgians should be ashamed for a lot of things, too numerous to iterate here.
In fact, all Europeans should be ashamed... No, wait, the whole world should be ashamed and throw a big o' shame party with crying and gnashing of teeth laugh
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Jun 2, 2019 4:18 PM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Cavalero: Yes, Belgians should be ashamed for a lot of things, too numerous to iterate here.
In fact, all Europeans should be ashamed... No, wait, the whole world should be ashamed and throw a big o' shame party with crying and gnashing of teeth
you forgot the Sackcloth and Ashes!grin
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Jun 2, 2019 4:20 PM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Cavalero
CavaleroCavaleroVerviers, Liege Belgium12 Threads 4 Polls 701 Posts
Conrad73: you forgot the Sackcloth and Ashes!
OOH man!! Shame on meeeee!!!! laugh
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Jun 2, 2019 5:03 PM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559: I think the US interest in Afghanistan is about opium and gas/oil pipelines, but the tali barney's are standing in there way.
I disagree with your assessment because:

The lure of Afghanistan as a war-torn Klondike is well established: In 2006, the George W. Bush administration conducted aerial surveys of the country to map its mineral resources. Under President Barack Obama, the Pentagon set up a task force to try to build a mining industry in Afghanistan

From Wikipedia
Mining in Afghanistan is controlled by the Ministry of Mines and Petroleum, which is headquartered in Kabul with regional offices in other parts of the country. Afghanistan has over 1,400 mineral fields, containing barite, chromite, coal, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, natural gas, petroleum, precious and semi-precious stones, salt, sulfur, talc, and zinc, among many other minerals. Gemstones include high-quality emerald, lapis lazuli, red garnet and ruby. According to a joint study by The Pentagon and the United States Geological Survey, Afghanistan has an estimated US$3 trillion of untapped minerals.


The previously unknown deposits — including huge veins of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and critical industrial metals like lithium — are so big and include so many minerals that are essential to modern industry that Afghanistan could eventually be transformed into one of the most important mining centers in the world

Afghanistan has abundant non-fuel mineral resources, including both known and potential deposits of a wide variety of minerals ranging from copper, iron, and sulfur to bauxite, lithium, and rare-earth elements.


This assortment of rare earth elements includes, clockwise from top, praseodymium, cerium, lanthanum, neodymium, samarium and gadolinium.

The aerial surveys determined that Afghanistan may hold 60 million tons of copper, 2.2 billion tons of iron ore, 1.4 million tons of rare earth elements such as lanthanum, cerium and neodymium, and lodes of aluminum, gold, silver, zinc, mercury and lithium. For instance, the Khanneshin carbonatite deposit in Afghanistan's Helmand province is valued at $89 billion, full as it is with rare earth elements.

The Afghan government has already signed a 30-year, $3 billion contract with the China Metallurgical Group, a state-owned mining enterprise based in Beijing, to exploit the Mes Aynak copper deposit, and awarded mining rights for the country's biggest iron deposit to a group of Indian state-run and private companies.



and Taliban are control a lot of area containing minerals i read week or so ago
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Jun 3, 2019 12:32 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts
I admit i didn't know much about Afghanistans mineral wealth, i knew they had abit of copper and some lithium.
I wonder how the taliban get on with China, its pretty clear they have had a guts full of the US dodgie deals.
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Jun 3, 2019 12:48 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts
The companies that have buildt nuclear reactors up to this point wouldn't be impressed with the chinese thorium uranium reactors, espeically if the chinese reactors turn out to be greener than all other reactors.
I heard a number of reactors are leaking in the US, Germany is going back to hydro power and shutting down their nuclear powerplants.
Germany got the pants sued of them for shutting down nuke powerplants, showing that the big companies can sue govts of countries.
Austrailian govt got sued by tobbacco companies for putting photos of the damage cigerettes cause to the body on cigerette packets.
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Jun 3, 2019 1:20 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
I think China was probably the biggest winner from the Iraq war, it gained most from it
Kuwait, China sign agreements for $9bn project...
The project will secure Kuwait, the world's fourth-largest crude exporter, a solid outlet for its oil, ahead of competitors such as Venezuela, Russia and Qatar, all of which are planning refineries in China.

Kuwait aims to more than double its crude exports to China to 500,000 barrels per day (bpd), versus last year's sales at just under 200,000 bpd.

Taliban have strengthened their grip across the nation. The Kabul government tenuously controls barely more than 50 percent of Afghanistan’s district

lithium:
India has spent $3 billion in aid in Afghanistan and has massive goodwill in Afghan society—interestingly social media posts by Afghans supporting India in the latest India-Pakistan conflict viral. It has also moved the needle of its aid from civilian to military aid, providing two tranches of military helicopters—a total of eight to be concluded this year.


Taliban, Islamic State Make Millions From Mining Afghan Minerals


The lapis mines in Afghanistan’s Badakhshan region are a microcosm of a problem that is replicated across the country, where mining is the Taliban’s second biggest source of income.

The Chinese market is also a key driver for Afghanistan’s lapis mining, with the vast majority of lapis being exported to China where it is prized as jewellery. The fact that Chinese lapis sales are funding the Taliban comes in contrast to the Chinese government’s official position as peace-broker on Afghanistan in regional security talks.


China has invested in security forces along Tajikistan’s border with Afghanistan; pumped money into similar structures in Gilgit Baltistan; provided training, funding and equipment to Afghan forces; and has hardened its own direct border with Afghanistan.

Some of the routes of China’s “Belt and Road Initiative” – Xi Jinping’s massive infrastructure plan – that cross the Eurasian continent would benefit from transit through Afghanistan. Beijing’s mineral extraction firms view the country’s natural resources with interest.
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Jun 3, 2019 4:03 PM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts
I didn't know about the relationship between Afghanistan, China and India, it sounds good and makes sense for them to get on with their neigbours.
Whats the Afghanistan Russia relationship like ?
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Jun 4, 2019 2:21 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559: I didn't know about the relationship between Afghanistan, China and India, it sounds good and makes sense for them to get on with their neigbours.
Whats the Afghanistan Russia relationship like ?
bit like brothers and sisters hehehe, American sanctions forced Russia into bed with China, however Russia also has good relationships with Japan, Vietnam, North Korea and India so until push becomes shove i dunno.

Russia and China share boarders and i really don't know how close that relationship actually is..
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Jun 4, 2019 3:03 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts
I looked into some of the nuke reactors and there are a number of different reactors, you have to have a bit of time on your hands to go through all that info.

I had a look at thorium and its pretty abundant in soils around the world, it can be mined out in its purest form. Still going through the info.

Coltan is the big one, its used in many different weapons and it has to do with wiring systems... it can handle high tempertures like you find in missiles and rockets, i'll find out soon.

Yeah the yanks have pushed many nations to side with one another, that can be a good thing in way.
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Jun 4, 2019 3:39 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
Butcher559: I looked into some of the nuke reactors and there are a number of different reactors, you have to have a bit of time on your hands to go through all that info.

I had a look at thorium and its pretty abundant in soils around the world, it can be mined out in its purest form. Still going through the info.

Coltan is the big one, its used in many different weapons and it has to do with wiring systems... it can handle high tempertures like you find in missiles and rockets, i'll find out soon.

Yeah the yanks have pushed many nations to side with one another, that can be a good thing in way.
not very well informed,ain't you?
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Jun 4, 2019 3:57 AM CST Coltan, Rare earth minerals, Thorium and Thorium Uranium the connection to China and Venezuela.
depends on how the mops flop.

Australia is member of the Chinese one belt initiative, China is Australia biggest trading partner.

Australia & NZ are both pacific / south east Asian nations, both were dumped by the UK who they had of course trusted and heavily dependent upon. Both countries have been for years trading with Asian nations including of course China.

Malaysia was threatening a Singaporean Island, also recently Widodo told PM Lee to get out of Singapore, so Lee popped over here and spent up big time. Australia has already passed Legislation allowing Singaporeans to setup their business here in the Northern Territory.
Russia sold Widodo probably the best fighter jet in the world, China supplied 2250 short sea ships, and is building roads all over the place but still they liealot, China has even tunneled under part of India into Pakistan its all very fluid, yes China controls rare earth, but bigger threat is its quite capable of killing capitalism by flooding the world (again) with free goods
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