Why does the Irish race speak English....? (73)
We see what we want to or are conditioned to see,
Pedro is Irish, so why question it if not to disparage him.
Pedro is Irish, so why question it if not to disparage him.
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Aragorn11: Hey Pedro
I guess when your invaded by a foreign speaking power who controlled you for nearly 1,000 years, committed genocide & enforced laws in their language I guess that has to be a factor.
In saying that, not enough Irish people have made and effort to learn our great language.
004,5
I guess when your invaded by a foreign speaking power who controlled you for nearly 1,000 years, committed genocide & enforced laws in their language I guess that has to be a factor.
In saying that, not enough Irish people have made and effort to learn our great language.
004,5
missed ya hiya Aragorn
If you changed that 1,000 years to hundreds....you could be speaking about British Columbia.
Some entire bands of First Nations people were wiped out (smallpox blankets from the English), combined with children taken off the reservations and placed in residential schools where native languages and culture were forbidden...much of the culture was lost. Residential schools existed in BC till 1984, in Canada 1870-1996.
Some folks are trying to teach some of the languages here...but few and far between know them well enough to teach them (there was no formal writing system).
Is this the same in Ireland? Are there younger folks that wish to learn the language and not lose it?
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Today's Gallic or Celtic languages left are Irish, Welsh, Cornish, Breton and Manx.
There are more fluent speakers of Welsh than there are of Gaelic (Irish).
There are more fluent speakers of Welsh than there are of Gaelic (Irish).
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Aragorn11: Hey Pedro
I guess when your invaded by a foreign speaking power who controlled you for nearly 1,000 years, committed genocide & enforced laws in their language I guess that has to be a factor
I guess when your invaded by a foreign speaking power who controlled you for nearly 1,000 years, committed genocide & enforced laws in their language I guess that has to be a factor
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Aragorn11: We see what we want to or are conditioned to see,
Pedro is Irish, so why question it if not to disparage him.
Pedro is Irish, so why question it if not to disparage him.
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When Britain invaded ireland centuries ago they introduced many laws to force the Irish to become anglicized....these were called the penal laws . One of these laws was to forbid the use of the irish language . A child had a little stick tied round their neck and there was a nick put in it each time they spoke irish at school and they were punished accordingly ie beaten for speaking their native tongue . I learnt this when i was very young in primary school it is our history of oppression . It still causes feelings of hatred toward the oppressor to this day in irish people . There were much worse and crueler laws imposed on the irish which caused povery hunger and eventually famine . I think the british givernment apologized a few tears ago . I dont hate britain but like many irish people i hate oppression or injustice because if our history of being oppressed.
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Aragorn11: Hey Pedro
I guess when your invaded by a foreign speaking power who controlled you for nearly 1,000 years, committed genocide & enforced laws in their language I guess that has to be a factor.
In saying that, not enough Irish people have made and effort to learn our great language.
004,5
your 100% right V...I guess when your invaded by a foreign speaking power who controlled you for nearly 1,000 years, committed genocide & enforced laws in their language I guess that has to be a factor.
In saying that, not enough Irish people have made and effort to learn our great language.
004,5
I half knew why.............. just wanted to remind others about our Irish history....as I am proud and patriotic about my home land Ireland...........
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jono7: missed ya
hiya Aragorn
If you changed that 1,000 years to hundreds....you could be speaking about British Columbia.
Some entire bands of First Nations people were wiped out (smallpox blankets from the English), combined with children taken off the reservations and placed in residential schools where native languages and culture were forbidden...much of the culture was lost. Residential schools existed in BC till 1984, in Canada 1870-1996.
Some folks are trying to teach some of the languages here...but few and far between know them well enough to teach them (there was no formal writing system).
Is this the same in Ireland? Are there younger folks that wish to learn the language and not lose it?
Hey Jono hiya Aragorn
If you changed that 1,000 years to hundreds....you could be speaking about British Columbia.
Some entire bands of First Nations people were wiped out (smallpox blankets from the English), combined with children taken off the reservations and placed in residential schools where native languages and culture were forbidden...much of the culture was lost. Residential schools existed in BC till 1984, in Canada 1870-1996.
Some folks are trying to teach some of the languages here...but few and far between know them well enough to teach them (there was no formal writing system).
Is this the same in Ireland? Are there younger folks that wish to learn the language and not lose it?
It's disgusting & sad what the invaders will do to attack people & their culture with a view to controlling them.
Sad to hear that but not the least surprised.
Now there are pockets of regions, few and far between, that Irish is native, known as Gaeltacht regions.
Most people don't speak it for a variety of reasons, and I'm ashamed to say I only have a cupla focail (few words).
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pedro27: ..................when us Irish should be speaking our native language Irish......
Conas ata tu..?
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It's the same with the welsh and the Scottish, but the Scottish deep down do hate the English and don't want to be part of a united kingdom...so know of them should be living in England and speaking English, but they know they would never make it alone and if not the uk, then the unelected eu...the snp don't care about Scottish folk, but they do care about the money, that they get for keeping Scotland in the eu...self serving politicians, who look after their own interests and not anyone else'sConas ata tu..?
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LeeCharming: It's the same with the welsh and the Scottish, but the Scottish deep down do hate the English and don't want to be part of a united kingdom...so know of them should be living in England and speaking English, but they know they would never make it alone and if not the uk, then the unelected eu...the snp don't care about Scottish folk, but they do care about the money, that they get for keeping Scotland in the eu...self serving politicians, who look after their own interests and not anyone else's
@leeyour post seems like the truth, I will take that on board
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NOSTRUS: When Britain invaded ireland centuries ago they introduced many laws to force the Irish to become anglicized....these were called the penal laws . One of these laws was to forbid the use of the irish language . A child had a little stick tied round their neck and there was a nick put in it each time they spoke irish at school and they were punished accordingly ie beaten for speaking their native tongue . I learnt this when i was very young in primary school it is our history of oppression . It still causes feelings of hatred toward the oppressor to this day in irish people . There were much worse and crueler laws imposed on the irish which caused povery hunger and eventually famine . I think the british givernment apologized a few tears ago . I dont hate britain but like many irish people i hate oppression or injustice because if our history of being oppressed.
I doubt but some of what you were taught in primary school was based on a myth or a bias on your teachers part.The Penal laws didn't happen until the early 1700s',long after the first English invasion,& was an attempt to destroy the Catholic influence here by forcing the people to convert.
It never actually banned the Irish language (the teachers might have taken that upon themselves)
The Anglican Church were printing bibles in Irish in to the 1800s', some of the people on the famine ships couldn't speak English.
That's only the tip of the iceberg & sadly I'm not an expert,I should have paid more attention at school
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I guess when your invaded by a foreign speaking power who controlled you for nearly 1,000 years, committed genocide & enforced laws in their language I guess that has to be a factor.
In saying that, not enough Irish people have made and effort to learn our great language.
004,5